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[ "This is a friendly reminder to read our rules.\nRemember, /r/Showerthoughts is for showerthoughts, not \"thoughts had in the shower!\"\n(For an explanation of what a \"showerthought\" is, please read this page.)\nRule-breaking posts may result in bans.", ">\n\nI mean, one of them was German, and other than that it appeared to be a mix of British and American kids.", ">\n\nExactly. Put some respect on our bilingual king Augustus Gloop’s name OP! 🍫🇩🇪", ">\n\nFun fact! Did you know the actress who played his mother (Save some room for later!) was in a porn right around that time?", ">\n\nI didn't believe you, so I checked. This appears to be true!", ">\n\nI mean Michael Scott tried this and all the tickets went to the same company.", ">\n\nOmg maybe that episode was really just to shine light on the fact that there is a reason that all the tickets wound up going to the same demographic", ">\n\nNot really sure I’d consider Charlie Bucket and Veruca Salt as the same demographic.", ">\n\nPresumably old mate got confused between demographic and age bracket", ">\n\nAge is a demographic btw", ">\n\nOk. In the story, only Augustus Gloop and Mike Teavee are the same age (9), everyone else is a different age.\nBut why is it surprising that the main characters of a Roald Dahl Story are children? That’s kind of the point of all his children’s novels. \nThere is also almost always an element of magic, or at least the unexplained-possibly-paranormal in his books. In the novel, adults around the world searched like crazy for those tickets, but of course Wonka knows children will be the recipients because his factory, and indeed his candies, are made for children, and their imaginations. The tickets themselves were intended for children, never an adult.\nThe real convenience of it all lies in the the book being written for a target audience, and that audience is children… therefore, characters they relate to.", ">\n\nI wasn’t inherently disagreeing with you (I was responding to the person above who assumed you didn’t think age is a demographic), you can narrow the age demographic to whatever you want. I’d consider “children” to be a general age demographic, but if you want to split it up, that’s fair. \nUntil your response, I didn’t think you were referring to their age, but other points of their demographic profile (SES, culture, location, etc).", ">\n\nI’m sorry, I misunderstood! You are right in thinking I wasn’t referring to their age, btw. I agree they all fit an age demographic, but that’s hardly relevant compared to the social statuses Dahl has created for them.", ">\n\nIt's also incredibly convenient that Wonka's creepy-looking henchman was at the right time and place when all of them were discovered. Almost as if they were planted.", ">\n\nWell there was nothing \"incredibly convenient\" about the winners being English speakers. That was about 99% of the UK at the time.", ">\n\nBecause the only place willy wonkas factory shipped to was within the United Kingdoms borders?", ">\n\nExcept in the film (never read the book) it was implied Wonka’s chocolates shipped out all over the world. I mean, Augustus Gloop was Austrian/German.\nBut yeah, the fact that it was all children who got it would be statistically improbable.", ">\n\nMeh, more kids buy candy than adults, and every year there are more kids than adults.", ">\n\nRight, but the candy wasn’t the main prize. You got a lifetime supply of chocolate which could be sold hand over fist, which I’m sure plenty of adults considered in their quest to find the golden tickets. And plus an exclusive tour of the world’s most mysterious and profitable candy company would almost truly be a once in a lifetime event, and you’re telling me some rich celebrity wouldn’t swoop in and offer any one of those children $10mil cash for the golden ticket, just to have the prestige of going to Wonka’s factory? Just doesn’t add up.", ">\n\nTrue", ">\n\nHappy Cake Day, Jan", ">\n\nHappy what?", ">\n\nIt’s your cake day. Hence the little cake icon next to your username.", ">\n\nIt's because the thing was rigged from the start. Willy Wonka had no children of his own, so he was specifically looking for an heir to take over his empire.", ">\n\nAnd a few to murder.", ">\n\nAs you do", ">\n\nAs is tradition", ">\n\nAs You Were - LG", ">\n\nConsidering the children were all horrible can you think of the uproar on what nationality gets what arsehole behaviour.", ">\n\nI got the impression that Wonka had pretty elaborate plans for the kids, and selected them specifically to teach them lessons?", ">\n\nExactly. He chose Charlie, it was just the final test.", ">\n\nIn the gene wilder version, the candy store salesman admits he was hiding Wonka bars while they were auctioning for extreme prices. Why would a man in the business of selling candy for profit do that? Then, it's not until charlie says he wants to buy something for his grandfather that the candy seller chooses the type of bar for him, and that bar has the golden ticket. \nHe knew he had it, and was intentionally holding it for somebody who wasn't buying for themselves.", ">\n\nCharlie & the chocolate factory Lore", ">\n\nReminds me of how in Boruto, the main ladies of Naruto took a collective pregnancy pact to birth children in the same year." ]

[ "This is a friendly reminder to read our rules.\nRemember, /r/Showerthoughts is for showerthoughts, not \"thoughts had in the shower!\"\n(For an explanation of what a \"showerthought\" is, please read this page.)\nRule-breaking posts may result in bans.", ">\n\nI mean, one of them was German, and other than that it appeared to be a mix of British and American kids.", ">\n\nExactly. Put some respect on our bilingual king Augustus Gloop’s name OP! 🍫🇩🇪", ">\n\nFun fact! Did you know the actress who played his mother (Save some room for later!) was in a porn right around that time?", ">\n\nI didn't believe you, so I checked. This appears to be true!", ">\n\nI mean Michael Scott tried this and all the tickets went to the same company.", ">\n\nOmg maybe that episode was really just to shine light on the fact that there is a reason that all the tickets wound up going to the same demographic", ">\n\nNot really sure I’d consider Charlie Bucket and Veruca Salt as the same demographic.", ">\n\nPresumably old mate got confused between demographic and age bracket", ">\n\nAge is a demographic btw", ">\n\nOk. In the story, only Augustus Gloop and Mike Teavee are the same age (9), everyone else is a different age.\nBut why is it surprising that the main characters of a Roald Dahl Story are children? That’s kind of the point of all his children’s novels. \nThere is also almost always an element of magic, or at least the unexplained-possibly-paranormal in his books. In the novel, adults around the world searched like crazy for those tickets, but of course Wonka knows children will be the recipients because his factory, and indeed his candies, are made for children, and their imaginations. The tickets themselves were intended for children, never an adult.\nThe real convenience of it all lies in the the book being written for a target audience, and that audience is children… therefore, characters they relate to.", ">\n\nI wasn’t inherently disagreeing with you (I was responding to the person above who assumed you didn’t think age is a demographic), you can narrow the age demographic to whatever you want. I’d consider “children” to be a general age demographic, but if you want to split it up, that’s fair. \nUntil your response, I didn’t think you were referring to their age, but other points of their demographic profile (SES, culture, location, etc).", ">\n\nI’m sorry, I misunderstood! You are right in thinking I wasn’t referring to their age, btw. I agree they all fit an age demographic, but that’s hardly relevant compared to the social statuses Dahl has created for them.", ">\n\nIt's also incredibly convenient that Wonka's creepy-looking henchman was at the right time and place when all of them were discovered. Almost as if they were planted.", ">\n\nWell there was nothing \"incredibly convenient\" about the winners being English speakers. That was about 99% of the UK at the time.", ">\n\nBecause the only place willy wonkas factory shipped to was within the United Kingdoms borders?", ">\n\nExcept in the film (never read the book) it was implied Wonka’s chocolates shipped out all over the world. I mean, Augustus Gloop was Austrian/German.\nBut yeah, the fact that it was all children who got it would be statistically improbable.", ">\n\nMeh, more kids buy candy than adults, and every year there are more kids than adults.", ">\n\nRight, but the candy wasn’t the main prize. You got a lifetime supply of chocolate which could be sold hand over fist, which I’m sure plenty of adults considered in their quest to find the golden tickets. And plus an exclusive tour of the world’s most mysterious and profitable candy company would almost truly be a once in a lifetime event, and you’re telling me some rich celebrity wouldn’t swoop in and offer any one of those children $10mil cash for the golden ticket, just to have the prestige of going to Wonka’s factory? Just doesn’t add up.", ">\n\nTrue", ">\n\nHappy Cake Day, Jan", ">\n\nHappy what?", ">\n\nIt’s your cake day. Hence the little cake icon next to your username.", ">\n\nIt's because the thing was rigged from the start. Willy Wonka had no children of his own, so he was specifically looking for an heir to take over his empire.", ">\n\nAnd a few to murder.", ">\n\nAs you do", ">\n\nAs is tradition", ">\n\nAs You Were - LG", ">\n\nConsidering the children were all horrible can you think of the uproar on what nationality gets what arsehole behaviour.", ">\n\nI got the impression that Wonka had pretty elaborate plans for the kids, and selected them specifically to teach them lessons?", ">\n\nExactly. He chose Charlie, it was just the final test.", ">\n\nIn the gene wilder version, the candy store salesman admits he was hiding Wonka bars while they were auctioning for extreme prices. Why would a man in the business of selling candy for profit do that? Then, it's not until charlie says he wants to buy something for his grandfather that the candy seller chooses the type of bar for him, and that bar has the golden ticket. \nHe knew he had it, and was intentionally holding it for somebody who wasn't buying for themselves.", ">\n\nCharlie & the chocolate factory Lore", ">\n\nReminds me of how in Boruto, the main ladies of Naruto took a collective pregnancy pact to birth children in the same year.", ">\n\nWhat the fuck" ]

[ "This is a friendly reminder to read our rules.\nRemember, /r/Showerthoughts is for showerthoughts, not \"thoughts had in the shower!\"\n(For an explanation of what a \"showerthought\" is, please read this page.)\nRule-breaking posts may result in bans.", ">\n\nI mean, one of them was German, and other than that it appeared to be a mix of British and American kids.", ">\n\nExactly. Put some respect on our bilingual king Augustus Gloop’s name OP! 🍫🇩🇪", ">\n\nFun fact! Did you know the actress who played his mother (Save some room for later!) was in a porn right around that time?", ">\n\nI didn't believe you, so I checked. This appears to be true!", ">\n\nI mean Michael Scott tried this and all the tickets went to the same company.", ">\n\nOmg maybe that episode was really just to shine light on the fact that there is a reason that all the tickets wound up going to the same demographic", ">\n\nNot really sure I’d consider Charlie Bucket and Veruca Salt as the same demographic.", ">\n\nPresumably old mate got confused between demographic and age bracket", ">\n\nAge is a demographic btw", ">\n\nOk. In the story, only Augustus Gloop and Mike Teavee are the same age (9), everyone else is a different age.\nBut why is it surprising that the main characters of a Roald Dahl Story are children? That’s kind of the point of all his children’s novels. \nThere is also almost always an element of magic, or at least the unexplained-possibly-paranormal in his books. In the novel, adults around the world searched like crazy for those tickets, but of course Wonka knows children will be the recipients because his factory, and indeed his candies, are made for children, and their imaginations. The tickets themselves were intended for children, never an adult.\nThe real convenience of it all lies in the the book being written for a target audience, and that audience is children… therefore, characters they relate to.", ">\n\nI wasn’t inherently disagreeing with you (I was responding to the person above who assumed you didn’t think age is a demographic), you can narrow the age demographic to whatever you want. I’d consider “children” to be a general age demographic, but if you want to split it up, that’s fair. \nUntil your response, I didn’t think you were referring to their age, but other points of their demographic profile (SES, culture, location, etc).", ">\n\nI’m sorry, I misunderstood! You are right in thinking I wasn’t referring to their age, btw. I agree they all fit an age demographic, but that’s hardly relevant compared to the social statuses Dahl has created for them.", ">\n\nIt's also incredibly convenient that Wonka's creepy-looking henchman was at the right time and place when all of them were discovered. Almost as if they were planted.", ">\n\nWell there was nothing \"incredibly convenient\" about the winners being English speakers. That was about 99% of the UK at the time.", ">\n\nBecause the only place willy wonkas factory shipped to was within the United Kingdoms borders?", ">\n\nExcept in the film (never read the book) it was implied Wonka’s chocolates shipped out all over the world. I mean, Augustus Gloop was Austrian/German.\nBut yeah, the fact that it was all children who got it would be statistically improbable.", ">\n\nMeh, more kids buy candy than adults, and every year there are more kids than adults.", ">\n\nRight, but the candy wasn’t the main prize. You got a lifetime supply of chocolate which could be sold hand over fist, which I’m sure plenty of adults considered in their quest to find the golden tickets. And plus an exclusive tour of the world’s most mysterious and profitable candy company would almost truly be a once in a lifetime event, and you’re telling me some rich celebrity wouldn’t swoop in and offer any one of those children $10mil cash for the golden ticket, just to have the prestige of going to Wonka’s factory? Just doesn’t add up.", ">\n\nTrue", ">\n\nHappy Cake Day, Jan", ">\n\nHappy what?", ">\n\nIt’s your cake day. Hence the little cake icon next to your username.", ">\n\nIt's because the thing was rigged from the start. Willy Wonka had no children of his own, so he was specifically looking for an heir to take over his empire.", ">\n\nAnd a few to murder.", ">\n\nAs you do", ">\n\nAs is tradition", ">\n\nAs You Were - LG", ">\n\nConsidering the children were all horrible can you think of the uproar on what nationality gets what arsehole behaviour.", ">\n\nI got the impression that Wonka had pretty elaborate plans for the kids, and selected them specifically to teach them lessons?", ">\n\nExactly. He chose Charlie, it was just the final test.", ">\n\nIn the gene wilder version, the candy store salesman admits he was hiding Wonka bars while they were auctioning for extreme prices. Why would a man in the business of selling candy for profit do that? Then, it's not until charlie says he wants to buy something for his grandfather that the candy seller chooses the type of bar for him, and that bar has the golden ticket. \nHe knew he had it, and was intentionally holding it for somebody who wasn't buying for themselves.", ">\n\nCharlie & the chocolate factory Lore", ">\n\nReminds me of how in Boruto, the main ladies of Naruto took a collective pregnancy pact to birth children in the same year.", ">\n\nWhat the fuck", ">\n\nThat's not literally what happened.\nThe naruto cast just had children in the same class at the start of boruto. Which makes kind of sense because Naruto ends with a giant war and those make people have children historically but it's also obviously to have a story in which all the original characters are involved through their children.\nBut it's also so obviously contrived that people joke they all made a pact to get pregnant at the same time because otherwise it's too convenient that they all have children at close to the same age." ]

[ "This is a friendly reminder to read our rules.\nRemember, /r/Showerthoughts is for showerthoughts, not \"thoughts had in the shower!\"\n(For an explanation of what a \"showerthought\" is, please read this page.)\nRule-breaking posts may result in bans.", ">\n\nI mean, one of them was German, and other than that it appeared to be a mix of British and American kids.", ">\n\nExactly. Put some respect on our bilingual king Augustus Gloop’s name OP! 🍫🇩🇪", ">\n\nFun fact! Did you know the actress who played his mother (Save some room for later!) was in a porn right around that time?", ">\n\nI didn't believe you, so I checked. This appears to be true!", ">\n\nI mean Michael Scott tried this and all the tickets went to the same company.", ">\n\nOmg maybe that episode was really just to shine light on the fact that there is a reason that all the tickets wound up going to the same demographic", ">\n\nNot really sure I’d consider Charlie Bucket and Veruca Salt as the same demographic.", ">\n\nPresumably old mate got confused between demographic and age bracket", ">\n\nAge is a demographic btw", ">\n\nOk. In the story, only Augustus Gloop and Mike Teavee are the same age (9), everyone else is a different age.\nBut why is it surprising that the main characters of a Roald Dahl Story are children? That’s kind of the point of all his children’s novels. \nThere is also almost always an element of magic, or at least the unexplained-possibly-paranormal in his books. In the novel, adults around the world searched like crazy for those tickets, but of course Wonka knows children will be the recipients because his factory, and indeed his candies, are made for children, and their imaginations. The tickets themselves were intended for children, never an adult.\nThe real convenience of it all lies in the the book being written for a target audience, and that audience is children… therefore, characters they relate to.", ">\n\nI wasn’t inherently disagreeing with you (I was responding to the person above who assumed you didn’t think age is a demographic), you can narrow the age demographic to whatever you want. I’d consider “children” to be a general age demographic, but if you want to split it up, that’s fair. \nUntil your response, I didn’t think you were referring to their age, but other points of their demographic profile (SES, culture, location, etc).", ">\n\nI’m sorry, I misunderstood! You are right in thinking I wasn’t referring to their age, btw. I agree they all fit an age demographic, but that’s hardly relevant compared to the social statuses Dahl has created for them.", ">\n\nIt's also incredibly convenient that Wonka's creepy-looking henchman was at the right time and place when all of them were discovered. Almost as if they were planted.", ">\n\nWell there was nothing \"incredibly convenient\" about the winners being English speakers. That was about 99% of the UK at the time.", ">\n\nBecause the only place willy wonkas factory shipped to was within the United Kingdoms borders?", ">\n\nExcept in the film (never read the book) it was implied Wonka’s chocolates shipped out all over the world. I mean, Augustus Gloop was Austrian/German.\nBut yeah, the fact that it was all children who got it would be statistically improbable.", ">\n\nMeh, more kids buy candy than adults, and every year there are more kids than adults.", ">\n\nRight, but the candy wasn’t the main prize. You got a lifetime supply of chocolate which could be sold hand over fist, which I’m sure plenty of adults considered in their quest to find the golden tickets. And plus an exclusive tour of the world’s most mysterious and profitable candy company would almost truly be a once in a lifetime event, and you’re telling me some rich celebrity wouldn’t swoop in and offer any one of those children $10mil cash for the golden ticket, just to have the prestige of going to Wonka’s factory? Just doesn’t add up.", ">\n\nTrue", ">\n\nHappy Cake Day, Jan", ">\n\nHappy what?", ">\n\nIt’s your cake day. Hence the little cake icon next to your username.", ">\n\nIt's because the thing was rigged from the start. Willy Wonka had no children of his own, so he was specifically looking for an heir to take over his empire.", ">\n\nAnd a few to murder.", ">\n\nAs you do", ">\n\nAs is tradition", ">\n\nAs You Were - LG", ">\n\nConsidering the children were all horrible can you think of the uproar on what nationality gets what arsehole behaviour.", ">\n\nI got the impression that Wonka had pretty elaborate plans for the kids, and selected them specifically to teach them lessons?", ">\n\nExactly. He chose Charlie, it was just the final test.", ">\n\nIn the gene wilder version, the candy store salesman admits he was hiding Wonka bars while they were auctioning for extreme prices. Why would a man in the business of selling candy for profit do that? Then, it's not until charlie says he wants to buy something for his grandfather that the candy seller chooses the type of bar for him, and that bar has the golden ticket. \nHe knew he had it, and was intentionally holding it for somebody who wasn't buying for themselves.", ">\n\nCharlie & the chocolate factory Lore", ">\n\nReminds me of how in Boruto, the main ladies of Naruto took a collective pregnancy pact to birth children in the same year.", ">\n\nWhat the fuck", ">\n\nThat's not literally what happened.\nThe naruto cast just had children in the same class at the start of boruto. Which makes kind of sense because Naruto ends with a giant war and those make people have children historically but it's also obviously to have a story in which all the original characters are involved through their children.\nBut it's also so obviously contrived that people joke they all made a pact to get pregnant at the same time because otherwise it's too convenient that they all have children at close to the same age.", ">\n\nThe kids of Boruto are literal baby boomers" ]

[ "This is a friendly reminder to read our rules.\nRemember, /r/Showerthoughts is for showerthoughts, not \"thoughts had in the shower!\"\n(For an explanation of what a \"showerthought\" is, please read this page.)\nRule-breaking posts may result in bans.", ">\n\nI mean, one of them was German, and other than that it appeared to be a mix of British and American kids.", ">\n\nExactly. Put some respect on our bilingual king Augustus Gloop’s name OP! 🍫🇩🇪", ">\n\nFun fact! Did you know the actress who played his mother (Save some room for later!) was in a porn right around that time?", ">\n\nI didn't believe you, so I checked. This appears to be true!", ">\n\nI mean Michael Scott tried this and all the tickets went to the same company.", ">\n\nOmg maybe that episode was really just to shine light on the fact that there is a reason that all the tickets wound up going to the same demographic", ">\n\nNot really sure I’d consider Charlie Bucket and Veruca Salt as the same demographic.", ">\n\nPresumably old mate got confused between demographic and age bracket", ">\n\nAge is a demographic btw", ">\n\nOk. In the story, only Augustus Gloop and Mike Teavee are the same age (9), everyone else is a different age.\nBut why is it surprising that the main characters of a Roald Dahl Story are children? That’s kind of the point of all his children’s novels. \nThere is also almost always an element of magic, or at least the unexplained-possibly-paranormal in his books. In the novel, adults around the world searched like crazy for those tickets, but of course Wonka knows children will be the recipients because his factory, and indeed his candies, are made for children, and their imaginations. The tickets themselves were intended for children, never an adult.\nThe real convenience of it all lies in the the book being written for a target audience, and that audience is children… therefore, characters they relate to.", ">\n\nI wasn’t inherently disagreeing with you (I was responding to the person above who assumed you didn’t think age is a demographic), you can narrow the age demographic to whatever you want. I’d consider “children” to be a general age demographic, but if you want to split it up, that’s fair. \nUntil your response, I didn’t think you were referring to their age, but other points of their demographic profile (SES, culture, location, etc).", ">\n\nI’m sorry, I misunderstood! You are right in thinking I wasn’t referring to their age, btw. I agree they all fit an age demographic, but that’s hardly relevant compared to the social statuses Dahl has created for them.", ">\n\nIt's also incredibly convenient that Wonka's creepy-looking henchman was at the right time and place when all of them were discovered. Almost as if they were planted.", ">\n\nWell there was nothing \"incredibly convenient\" about the winners being English speakers. That was about 99% of the UK at the time.", ">\n\nBecause the only place willy wonkas factory shipped to was within the United Kingdoms borders?", ">\n\nExcept in the film (never read the book) it was implied Wonka’s chocolates shipped out all over the world. I mean, Augustus Gloop was Austrian/German.\nBut yeah, the fact that it was all children who got it would be statistically improbable.", ">\n\nMeh, more kids buy candy than adults, and every year there are more kids than adults.", ">\n\nRight, but the candy wasn’t the main prize. You got a lifetime supply of chocolate which could be sold hand over fist, which I’m sure plenty of adults considered in their quest to find the golden tickets. And plus an exclusive tour of the world’s most mysterious and profitable candy company would almost truly be a once in a lifetime event, and you’re telling me some rich celebrity wouldn’t swoop in and offer any one of those children $10mil cash for the golden ticket, just to have the prestige of going to Wonka’s factory? Just doesn’t add up.", ">\n\nTrue", ">\n\nHappy Cake Day, Jan", ">\n\nHappy what?", ">\n\nIt’s your cake day. Hence the little cake icon next to your username.", ">\n\nIt's because the thing was rigged from the start. Willy Wonka had no children of his own, so he was specifically looking for an heir to take over his empire.", ">\n\nAnd a few to murder.", ">\n\nAs you do", ">\n\nAs is tradition", ">\n\nAs You Were - LG", ">\n\nConsidering the children were all horrible can you think of the uproar on what nationality gets what arsehole behaviour.", ">\n\nI got the impression that Wonka had pretty elaborate plans for the kids, and selected them specifically to teach them lessons?", ">\n\nExactly. He chose Charlie, it was just the final test.", ">\n\nIn the gene wilder version, the candy store salesman admits he was hiding Wonka bars while they were auctioning for extreme prices. Why would a man in the business of selling candy for profit do that? Then, it's not until charlie says he wants to buy something for his grandfather that the candy seller chooses the type of bar for him, and that bar has the golden ticket. \nHe knew he had it, and was intentionally holding it for somebody who wasn't buying for themselves.", ">\n\nCharlie & the chocolate factory Lore", ">\n\nReminds me of how in Boruto, the main ladies of Naruto took a collective pregnancy pact to birth children in the same year.", ">\n\nWhat the fuck", ">\n\nThat's not literally what happened.\nThe naruto cast just had children in the same class at the start of boruto. Which makes kind of sense because Naruto ends with a giant war and those make people have children historically but it's also obviously to have a story in which all the original characters are involved through their children.\nBut it's also so obviously contrived that people joke they all made a pact to get pregnant at the same time because otherwise it's too convenient that they all have children at close to the same age.", ">\n\nThe kids of Boruto are literal baby boomers", ">\n\nThe book is set in 1960s England… What else would they speak?" ]

[ "This is a friendly reminder to read our rules.\nRemember, /r/Showerthoughts is for showerthoughts, not \"thoughts had in the shower!\"\n(For an explanation of what a \"showerthought\" is, please read this page.)\nRule-breaking posts may result in bans.", ">\n\nI mean, one of them was German, and other than that it appeared to be a mix of British and American kids.", ">\n\nExactly. Put some respect on our bilingual king Augustus Gloop’s name OP! 🍫🇩🇪", ">\n\nFun fact! Did you know the actress who played his mother (Save some room for later!) was in a porn right around that time?", ">\n\nI didn't believe you, so I checked. This appears to be true!", ">\n\nI mean Michael Scott tried this and all the tickets went to the same company.", ">\n\nOmg maybe that episode was really just to shine light on the fact that there is a reason that all the tickets wound up going to the same demographic", ">\n\nNot really sure I’d consider Charlie Bucket and Veruca Salt as the same demographic.", ">\n\nPresumably old mate got confused between demographic and age bracket", ">\n\nAge is a demographic btw", ">\n\nOk. In the story, only Augustus Gloop and Mike Teavee are the same age (9), everyone else is a different age.\nBut why is it surprising that the main characters of a Roald Dahl Story are children? That’s kind of the point of all his children’s novels. \nThere is also almost always an element of magic, or at least the unexplained-possibly-paranormal in his books. In the novel, adults around the world searched like crazy for those tickets, but of course Wonka knows children will be the recipients because his factory, and indeed his candies, are made for children, and their imaginations. The tickets themselves were intended for children, never an adult.\nThe real convenience of it all lies in the the book being written for a target audience, and that audience is children… therefore, characters they relate to.", ">\n\nI wasn’t inherently disagreeing with you (I was responding to the person above who assumed you didn’t think age is a demographic), you can narrow the age demographic to whatever you want. I’d consider “children” to be a general age demographic, but if you want to split it up, that’s fair. \nUntil your response, I didn’t think you were referring to their age, but other points of their demographic profile (SES, culture, location, etc).", ">\n\nI’m sorry, I misunderstood! You are right in thinking I wasn’t referring to their age, btw. I agree they all fit an age demographic, but that’s hardly relevant compared to the social statuses Dahl has created for them.", ">\n\nIt's also incredibly convenient that Wonka's creepy-looking henchman was at the right time and place when all of them were discovered. Almost as if they were planted.", ">\n\nWell there was nothing \"incredibly convenient\" about the winners being English speakers. That was about 99% of the UK at the time.", ">\n\nBecause the only place willy wonkas factory shipped to was within the United Kingdoms borders?", ">\n\nExcept in the film (never read the book) it was implied Wonka’s chocolates shipped out all over the world. I mean, Augustus Gloop was Austrian/German.\nBut yeah, the fact that it was all children who got it would be statistically improbable.", ">\n\nMeh, more kids buy candy than adults, and every year there are more kids than adults.", ">\n\nRight, but the candy wasn’t the main prize. You got a lifetime supply of chocolate which could be sold hand over fist, which I’m sure plenty of adults considered in their quest to find the golden tickets. And plus an exclusive tour of the world’s most mysterious and profitable candy company would almost truly be a once in a lifetime event, and you’re telling me some rich celebrity wouldn’t swoop in and offer any one of those children $10mil cash for the golden ticket, just to have the prestige of going to Wonka’s factory? Just doesn’t add up.", ">\n\nTrue", ">\n\nHappy Cake Day, Jan", ">\n\nHappy what?", ">\n\nIt’s your cake day. Hence the little cake icon next to your username.", ">\n\nIt's because the thing was rigged from the start. Willy Wonka had no children of his own, so he was specifically looking for an heir to take over his empire.", ">\n\nAnd a few to murder.", ">\n\nAs you do", ">\n\nAs is tradition", ">\n\nAs You Were - LG", ">\n\nConsidering the children were all horrible can you think of the uproar on what nationality gets what arsehole behaviour.", ">\n\nI got the impression that Wonka had pretty elaborate plans for the kids, and selected them specifically to teach them lessons?", ">\n\nExactly. He chose Charlie, it was just the final test.", ">\n\nIn the gene wilder version, the candy store salesman admits he was hiding Wonka bars while they were auctioning for extreme prices. Why would a man in the business of selling candy for profit do that? Then, it's not until charlie says he wants to buy something for his grandfather that the candy seller chooses the type of bar for him, and that bar has the golden ticket. \nHe knew he had it, and was intentionally holding it for somebody who wasn't buying for themselves.", ">\n\nCharlie & the chocolate factory Lore", ">\n\nReminds me of how in Boruto, the main ladies of Naruto took a collective pregnancy pact to birth children in the same year.", ">\n\nWhat the fuck", ">\n\nThat's not literally what happened.\nThe naruto cast just had children in the same class at the start of boruto. Which makes kind of sense because Naruto ends with a giant war and those make people have children historically but it's also obviously to have a story in which all the original characters are involved through their children.\nBut it's also so obviously contrived that people joke they all made a pact to get pregnant at the same time because otherwise it's too convenient that they all have children at close to the same age.", ">\n\nThe kids of Boruto are literal baby boomers", ">\n\nThe book is set in 1960s England… What else would they speak?", ">\n\nAre you implying minorities didn't exist back in the 60s? Especially after the war?" ]

[ "This is a friendly reminder to read our rules.\nRemember, /r/Showerthoughts is for showerthoughts, not \"thoughts had in the shower!\"\n(For an explanation of what a \"showerthought\" is, please read this page.)\nRule-breaking posts may result in bans.", ">\n\nI mean, one of them was German, and other than that it appeared to be a mix of British and American kids.", ">\n\nExactly. Put some respect on our bilingual king Augustus Gloop’s name OP! 🍫🇩🇪", ">\n\nFun fact! Did you know the actress who played his mother (Save some room for later!) was in a porn right around that time?", ">\n\nI didn't believe you, so I checked. This appears to be true!", ">\n\nI mean Michael Scott tried this and all the tickets went to the same company.", ">\n\nOmg maybe that episode was really just to shine light on the fact that there is a reason that all the tickets wound up going to the same demographic", ">\n\nNot really sure I’d consider Charlie Bucket and Veruca Salt as the same demographic.", ">\n\nPresumably old mate got confused between demographic and age bracket", ">\n\nAge is a demographic btw", ">\n\nOk. In the story, only Augustus Gloop and Mike Teavee are the same age (9), everyone else is a different age.\nBut why is it surprising that the main characters of a Roald Dahl Story are children? That’s kind of the point of all his children’s novels. \nThere is also almost always an element of magic, or at least the unexplained-possibly-paranormal in his books. In the novel, adults around the world searched like crazy for those tickets, but of course Wonka knows children will be the recipients because his factory, and indeed his candies, are made for children, and their imaginations. The tickets themselves were intended for children, never an adult.\nThe real convenience of it all lies in the the book being written for a target audience, and that audience is children… therefore, characters they relate to.", ">\n\nI wasn’t inherently disagreeing with you (I was responding to the person above who assumed you didn’t think age is a demographic), you can narrow the age demographic to whatever you want. I’d consider “children” to be a general age demographic, but if you want to split it up, that’s fair. \nUntil your response, I didn’t think you were referring to their age, but other points of their demographic profile (SES, culture, location, etc).", ">\n\nI’m sorry, I misunderstood! You are right in thinking I wasn’t referring to their age, btw. I agree they all fit an age demographic, but that’s hardly relevant compared to the social statuses Dahl has created for them.", ">\n\nIt's also incredibly convenient that Wonka's creepy-looking henchman was at the right time and place when all of them were discovered. Almost as if they were planted.", ">\n\nWell there was nothing \"incredibly convenient\" about the winners being English speakers. That was about 99% of the UK at the time.", ">\n\nBecause the only place willy wonkas factory shipped to was within the United Kingdoms borders?", ">\n\nExcept in the film (never read the book) it was implied Wonka’s chocolates shipped out all over the world. I mean, Augustus Gloop was Austrian/German.\nBut yeah, the fact that it was all children who got it would be statistically improbable.", ">\n\nMeh, more kids buy candy than adults, and every year there are more kids than adults.", ">\n\nRight, but the candy wasn’t the main prize. You got a lifetime supply of chocolate which could be sold hand over fist, which I’m sure plenty of adults considered in their quest to find the golden tickets. And plus an exclusive tour of the world’s most mysterious and profitable candy company would almost truly be a once in a lifetime event, and you’re telling me some rich celebrity wouldn’t swoop in and offer any one of those children $10mil cash for the golden ticket, just to have the prestige of going to Wonka’s factory? Just doesn’t add up.", ">\n\nTrue", ">\n\nHappy Cake Day, Jan", ">\n\nHappy what?", ">\n\nIt’s your cake day. Hence the little cake icon next to your username.", ">\n\nIt's because the thing was rigged from the start. Willy Wonka had no children of his own, so he was specifically looking for an heir to take over his empire.", ">\n\nAnd a few to murder.", ">\n\nAs you do", ">\n\nAs is tradition", ">\n\nAs You Were - LG", ">\n\nConsidering the children were all horrible can you think of the uproar on what nationality gets what arsehole behaviour.", ">\n\nI got the impression that Wonka had pretty elaborate plans for the kids, and selected them specifically to teach them lessons?", ">\n\nExactly. He chose Charlie, it was just the final test.", ">\n\nIn the gene wilder version, the candy store salesman admits he was hiding Wonka bars while they were auctioning for extreme prices. Why would a man in the business of selling candy for profit do that? Then, it's not until charlie says he wants to buy something for his grandfather that the candy seller chooses the type of bar for him, and that bar has the golden ticket. \nHe knew he had it, and was intentionally holding it for somebody who wasn't buying for themselves.", ">\n\nCharlie & the chocolate factory Lore", ">\n\nReminds me of how in Boruto, the main ladies of Naruto took a collective pregnancy pact to birth children in the same year.", ">\n\nWhat the fuck", ">\n\nThat's not literally what happened.\nThe naruto cast just had children in the same class at the start of boruto. Which makes kind of sense because Naruto ends with a giant war and those make people have children historically but it's also obviously to have a story in which all the original characters are involved through their children.\nBut it's also so obviously contrived that people joke they all made a pact to get pregnant at the same time because otherwise it's too convenient that they all have children at close to the same age.", ">\n\nThe kids of Boruto are literal baby boomers", ">\n\nThe book is set in 1960s England… What else would they speak?", ">\n\nAre you implying minorities didn't exist back in the 60s? Especially after the war?", ">\n\nNo, they're implying that in a book written in English and probably set in either England or America, the characters all speaking English is not at all surprising." ]

[ "This is a friendly reminder to read our rules.\nRemember, /r/Showerthoughts is for showerthoughts, not \"thoughts had in the shower!\"\n(For an explanation of what a \"showerthought\" is, please read this page.)\nRule-breaking posts may result in bans.", ">\n\nI mean, one of them was German, and other than that it appeared to be a mix of British and American kids.", ">\n\nExactly. Put some respect on our bilingual king Augustus Gloop’s name OP! 🍫🇩🇪", ">\n\nFun fact! Did you know the actress who played his mother (Save some room for later!) was in a porn right around that time?", ">\n\nI didn't believe you, so I checked. This appears to be true!", ">\n\nI mean Michael Scott tried this and all the tickets went to the same company.", ">\n\nOmg maybe that episode was really just to shine light on the fact that there is a reason that all the tickets wound up going to the same demographic", ">\n\nNot really sure I’d consider Charlie Bucket and Veruca Salt as the same demographic.", ">\n\nPresumably old mate got confused between demographic and age bracket", ">\n\nAge is a demographic btw", ">\n\nOk. In the story, only Augustus Gloop and Mike Teavee are the same age (9), everyone else is a different age.\nBut why is it surprising that the main characters of a Roald Dahl Story are children? That’s kind of the point of all his children’s novels. \nThere is also almost always an element of magic, or at least the unexplained-possibly-paranormal in his books. In the novel, adults around the world searched like crazy for those tickets, but of course Wonka knows children will be the recipients because his factory, and indeed his candies, are made for children, and their imaginations. The tickets themselves were intended for children, never an adult.\nThe real convenience of it all lies in the the book being written for a target audience, and that audience is children… therefore, characters they relate to.", ">\n\nI wasn’t inherently disagreeing with you (I was responding to the person above who assumed you didn’t think age is a demographic), you can narrow the age demographic to whatever you want. I’d consider “children” to be a general age demographic, but if you want to split it up, that’s fair. \nUntil your response, I didn’t think you were referring to their age, but other points of their demographic profile (SES, culture, location, etc).", ">\n\nI’m sorry, I misunderstood! You are right in thinking I wasn’t referring to their age, btw. I agree they all fit an age demographic, but that’s hardly relevant compared to the social statuses Dahl has created for them.", ">\n\nIt's also incredibly convenient that Wonka's creepy-looking henchman was at the right time and place when all of them were discovered. Almost as if they were planted.", ">\n\nWell there was nothing \"incredibly convenient\" about the winners being English speakers. That was about 99% of the UK at the time.", ">\n\nBecause the only place willy wonkas factory shipped to was within the United Kingdoms borders?", ">\n\nExcept in the film (never read the book) it was implied Wonka’s chocolates shipped out all over the world. I mean, Augustus Gloop was Austrian/German.\nBut yeah, the fact that it was all children who got it would be statistically improbable.", ">\n\nMeh, more kids buy candy than adults, and every year there are more kids than adults.", ">\n\nRight, but the candy wasn’t the main prize. You got a lifetime supply of chocolate which could be sold hand over fist, which I’m sure plenty of adults considered in their quest to find the golden tickets. And plus an exclusive tour of the world’s most mysterious and profitable candy company would almost truly be a once in a lifetime event, and you’re telling me some rich celebrity wouldn’t swoop in and offer any one of those children $10mil cash for the golden ticket, just to have the prestige of going to Wonka’s factory? Just doesn’t add up.", ">\n\nTrue", ">\n\nHappy Cake Day, Jan", ">\n\nHappy what?", ">\n\nIt’s your cake day. Hence the little cake icon next to your username.", ">\n\nIt's because the thing was rigged from the start. Willy Wonka had no children of his own, so he was specifically looking for an heir to take over his empire.", ">\n\nAnd a few to murder.", ">\n\nAs you do", ">\n\nAs is tradition", ">\n\nAs You Were - LG", ">\n\nConsidering the children were all horrible can you think of the uproar on what nationality gets what arsehole behaviour.", ">\n\nI got the impression that Wonka had pretty elaborate plans for the kids, and selected them specifically to teach them lessons?", ">\n\nExactly. He chose Charlie, it was just the final test.", ">\n\nIn the gene wilder version, the candy store salesman admits he was hiding Wonka bars while they were auctioning for extreme prices. Why would a man in the business of selling candy for profit do that? Then, it's not until charlie says he wants to buy something for his grandfather that the candy seller chooses the type of bar for him, and that bar has the golden ticket. \nHe knew he had it, and was intentionally holding it for somebody who wasn't buying for themselves.", ">\n\nCharlie & the chocolate factory Lore", ">\n\nReminds me of how in Boruto, the main ladies of Naruto took a collective pregnancy pact to birth children in the same year.", ">\n\nWhat the fuck", ">\n\nThat's not literally what happened.\nThe naruto cast just had children in the same class at the start of boruto. Which makes kind of sense because Naruto ends with a giant war and those make people have children historically but it's also obviously to have a story in which all the original characters are involved through their children.\nBut it's also so obviously contrived that people joke they all made a pact to get pregnant at the same time because otherwise it's too convenient that they all have children at close to the same age.", ">\n\nThe kids of Boruto are literal baby boomers", ">\n\nThe book is set in 1960s England… What else would they speak?", ">\n\nAre you implying minorities didn't exist back in the 60s? Especially after the war?", ">\n\nNo, they're implying that in a book written in English and probably set in either England or America, the characters all speaking English is not at all surprising.", ">\n\nYou're completely missing out on OP's point by trying to be a contrarian" ]

[ "This is a friendly reminder to read our rules.\nRemember, /r/Showerthoughts is for showerthoughts, not \"thoughts had in the shower!\"\n(For an explanation of what a \"showerthought\" is, please read this page.)\nRule-breaking posts may result in bans.", ">\n\nI mean, one of them was German, and other than that it appeared to be a mix of British and American kids.", ">\n\nExactly. Put some respect on our bilingual king Augustus Gloop’s name OP! 🍫🇩🇪", ">\n\nFun fact! Did you know the actress who played his mother (Save some room for later!) was in a porn right around that time?", ">\n\nI didn't believe you, so I checked. This appears to be true!", ">\n\nI mean Michael Scott tried this and all the tickets went to the same company.", ">\n\nOmg maybe that episode was really just to shine light on the fact that there is a reason that all the tickets wound up going to the same demographic", ">\n\nNot really sure I’d consider Charlie Bucket and Veruca Salt as the same demographic.", ">\n\nPresumably old mate got confused between demographic and age bracket", ">\n\nAge is a demographic btw", ">\n\nOk. In the story, only Augustus Gloop and Mike Teavee are the same age (9), everyone else is a different age.\nBut why is it surprising that the main characters of a Roald Dahl Story are children? That’s kind of the point of all his children’s novels. \nThere is also almost always an element of magic, or at least the unexplained-possibly-paranormal in his books. In the novel, adults around the world searched like crazy for those tickets, but of course Wonka knows children will be the recipients because his factory, and indeed his candies, are made for children, and their imaginations. The tickets themselves were intended for children, never an adult.\nThe real convenience of it all lies in the the book being written for a target audience, and that audience is children… therefore, characters they relate to.", ">\n\nI wasn’t inherently disagreeing with you (I was responding to the person above who assumed you didn’t think age is a demographic), you can narrow the age demographic to whatever you want. I’d consider “children” to be a general age demographic, but if you want to split it up, that’s fair. \nUntil your response, I didn’t think you were referring to their age, but other points of their demographic profile (SES, culture, location, etc).", ">\n\nI’m sorry, I misunderstood! You are right in thinking I wasn’t referring to their age, btw. I agree they all fit an age demographic, but that’s hardly relevant compared to the social statuses Dahl has created for them.", ">\n\nIt's also incredibly convenient that Wonka's creepy-looking henchman was at the right time and place when all of them were discovered. Almost as if they were planted.", ">\n\nWell there was nothing \"incredibly convenient\" about the winners being English speakers. That was about 99% of the UK at the time.", ">\n\nBecause the only place willy wonkas factory shipped to was within the United Kingdoms borders?", ">\n\nExcept in the film (never read the book) it was implied Wonka’s chocolates shipped out all over the world. I mean, Augustus Gloop was Austrian/German.\nBut yeah, the fact that it was all children who got it would be statistically improbable.", ">\n\nMeh, more kids buy candy than adults, and every year there are more kids than adults.", ">\n\nRight, but the candy wasn’t the main prize. You got a lifetime supply of chocolate which could be sold hand over fist, which I’m sure plenty of adults considered in their quest to find the golden tickets. And plus an exclusive tour of the world’s most mysterious and profitable candy company would almost truly be a once in a lifetime event, and you’re telling me some rich celebrity wouldn’t swoop in and offer any one of those children $10mil cash for the golden ticket, just to have the prestige of going to Wonka’s factory? Just doesn’t add up.", ">\n\nTrue", ">\n\nHappy Cake Day, Jan", ">\n\nHappy what?", ">\n\nIt’s your cake day. Hence the little cake icon next to your username.", ">\n\nIt's because the thing was rigged from the start. Willy Wonka had no children of his own, so he was specifically looking for an heir to take over his empire.", ">\n\nAnd a few to murder.", ">\n\nAs you do", ">\n\nAs is tradition", ">\n\nAs You Were - LG", ">\n\nConsidering the children were all horrible can you think of the uproar on what nationality gets what arsehole behaviour.", ">\n\nI got the impression that Wonka had pretty elaborate plans for the kids, and selected them specifically to teach them lessons?", ">\n\nExactly. He chose Charlie, it was just the final test.", ">\n\nIn the gene wilder version, the candy store salesman admits he was hiding Wonka bars while they were auctioning for extreme prices. Why would a man in the business of selling candy for profit do that? Then, it's not until charlie says he wants to buy something for his grandfather that the candy seller chooses the type of bar for him, and that bar has the golden ticket. \nHe knew he had it, and was intentionally holding it for somebody who wasn't buying for themselves.", ">\n\nCharlie & the chocolate factory Lore", ">\n\nReminds me of how in Boruto, the main ladies of Naruto took a collective pregnancy pact to birth children in the same year.", ">\n\nWhat the fuck", ">\n\nThat's not literally what happened.\nThe naruto cast just had children in the same class at the start of boruto. Which makes kind of sense because Naruto ends with a giant war and those make people have children historically but it's also obviously to have a story in which all the original characters are involved through their children.\nBut it's also so obviously contrived that people joke they all made a pact to get pregnant at the same time because otherwise it's too convenient that they all have children at close to the same age.", ">\n\nThe kids of Boruto are literal baby boomers", ">\n\nThe book is set in 1960s England… What else would they speak?", ">\n\nAre you implying minorities didn't exist back in the 60s? Especially after the war?", ">\n\nNo, they're implying that in a book written in English and probably set in either England or America, the characters all speaking English is not at all surprising.", ">\n\nYou're completely missing out on OP's point by trying to be a contrarian", ">\n\nNo, I'm pointing out that it's a children's book that was written in English and set in a country where English is by far the most commonly spoken language. So the fact that the main characters are mostly children who speak English is not surprising at all. Disagreeing is not the same as being contrarian." ]

[ "This is a friendly reminder to read our rules.\nRemember, /r/Showerthoughts is for showerthoughts, not \"thoughts had in the shower!\"\n(For an explanation of what a \"showerthought\" is, please read this page.)\nRule-breaking posts may result in bans.", ">\n\nI mean, one of them was German, and other than that it appeared to be a mix of British and American kids.", ">\n\nExactly. Put some respect on our bilingual king Augustus Gloop’s name OP! 🍫🇩🇪", ">\n\nFun fact! Did you know the actress who played his mother (Save some room for later!) was in a porn right around that time?", ">\n\nI didn't believe you, so I checked. This appears to be true!", ">\n\nI mean Michael Scott tried this and all the tickets went to the same company.", ">\n\nOmg maybe that episode was really just to shine light on the fact that there is a reason that all the tickets wound up going to the same demographic", ">\n\nNot really sure I’d consider Charlie Bucket and Veruca Salt as the same demographic.", ">\n\nPresumably old mate got confused between demographic and age bracket", ">\n\nAge is a demographic btw", ">\n\nOk. In the story, only Augustus Gloop and Mike Teavee are the same age (9), everyone else is a different age.\nBut why is it surprising that the main characters of a Roald Dahl Story are children? That’s kind of the point of all his children’s novels. \nThere is also almost always an element of magic, or at least the unexplained-possibly-paranormal in his books. In the novel, adults around the world searched like crazy for those tickets, but of course Wonka knows children will be the recipients because his factory, and indeed his candies, are made for children, and their imaginations. The tickets themselves were intended for children, never an adult.\nThe real convenience of it all lies in the the book being written for a target audience, and that audience is children… therefore, characters they relate to.", ">\n\nI wasn’t inherently disagreeing with you (I was responding to the person above who assumed you didn’t think age is a demographic), you can narrow the age demographic to whatever you want. I’d consider “children” to be a general age demographic, but if you want to split it up, that’s fair. \nUntil your response, I didn’t think you were referring to their age, but other points of their demographic profile (SES, culture, location, etc).", ">\n\nI’m sorry, I misunderstood! You are right in thinking I wasn’t referring to their age, btw. I agree they all fit an age demographic, but that’s hardly relevant compared to the social statuses Dahl has created for them.", ">\n\nIt's also incredibly convenient that Wonka's creepy-looking henchman was at the right time and place when all of them were discovered. Almost as if they were planted.", ">\n\nWell there was nothing \"incredibly convenient\" about the winners being English speakers. That was about 99% of the UK at the time.", ">\n\nBecause the only place willy wonkas factory shipped to was within the United Kingdoms borders?", ">\n\nExcept in the film (never read the book) it was implied Wonka’s chocolates shipped out all over the world. I mean, Augustus Gloop was Austrian/German.\nBut yeah, the fact that it was all children who got it would be statistically improbable.", ">\n\nMeh, more kids buy candy than adults, and every year there are more kids than adults.", ">\n\nRight, but the candy wasn’t the main prize. You got a lifetime supply of chocolate which could be sold hand over fist, which I’m sure plenty of adults considered in their quest to find the golden tickets. And plus an exclusive tour of the world’s most mysterious and profitable candy company would almost truly be a once in a lifetime event, and you’re telling me some rich celebrity wouldn’t swoop in and offer any one of those children $10mil cash for the golden ticket, just to have the prestige of going to Wonka’s factory? Just doesn’t add up.", ">\n\nTrue", ">\n\nHappy Cake Day, Jan", ">\n\nHappy what?", ">\n\nIt’s your cake day. Hence the little cake icon next to your username.", ">\n\nIt's because the thing was rigged from the start. Willy Wonka had no children of his own, so he was specifically looking for an heir to take over his empire.", ">\n\nAnd a few to murder.", ">\n\nAs you do", ">\n\nAs is tradition", ">\n\nAs You Were - LG", ">\n\nConsidering the children were all horrible can you think of the uproar on what nationality gets what arsehole behaviour.", ">\n\nI got the impression that Wonka had pretty elaborate plans for the kids, and selected them specifically to teach them lessons?", ">\n\nExactly. He chose Charlie, it was just the final test.", ">\n\nIn the gene wilder version, the candy store salesman admits he was hiding Wonka bars while they were auctioning for extreme prices. Why would a man in the business of selling candy for profit do that? Then, it's not until charlie says he wants to buy something for his grandfather that the candy seller chooses the type of bar for him, and that bar has the golden ticket. \nHe knew he had it, and was intentionally holding it for somebody who wasn't buying for themselves.", ">\n\nCharlie & the chocolate factory Lore", ">\n\nReminds me of how in Boruto, the main ladies of Naruto took a collective pregnancy pact to birth children in the same year.", ">\n\nWhat the fuck", ">\n\nThat's not literally what happened.\nThe naruto cast just had children in the same class at the start of boruto. Which makes kind of sense because Naruto ends with a giant war and those make people have children historically but it's also obviously to have a story in which all the original characters are involved through their children.\nBut it's also so obviously contrived that people joke they all made a pact to get pregnant at the same time because otherwise it's too convenient that they all have children at close to the same age.", ">\n\nThe kids of Boruto are literal baby boomers", ">\n\nThe book is set in 1960s England… What else would they speak?", ">\n\nAre you implying minorities didn't exist back in the 60s? Especially after the war?", ">\n\nNo, they're implying that in a book written in English and probably set in either England or America, the characters all speaking English is not at all surprising.", ">\n\nYou're completely missing out on OP's point by trying to be a contrarian", ">\n\nNo, I'm pointing out that it's a children's book that was written in English and set in a country where English is by far the most commonly spoken language. So the fact that the main characters are mostly children who speak English is not surprising at all. Disagreeing is not the same as being contrarian.", ">\n\nYou are missing out on OP's point" ]

[ "This is a friendly reminder to read our rules.\nRemember, /r/Showerthoughts is for showerthoughts, not \"thoughts had in the shower!\"\n(For an explanation of what a \"showerthought\" is, please read this page.)\nRule-breaking posts may result in bans.", ">\n\nI mean, one of them was German, and other than that it appeared to be a mix of British and American kids.", ">\n\nExactly. Put some respect on our bilingual king Augustus Gloop’s name OP! 🍫🇩🇪", ">\n\nFun fact! Did you know the actress who played his mother (Save some room for later!) was in a porn right around that time?", ">\n\nI didn't believe you, so I checked. This appears to be true!", ">\n\nI mean Michael Scott tried this and all the tickets went to the same company.", ">\n\nOmg maybe that episode was really just to shine light on the fact that there is a reason that all the tickets wound up going to the same demographic", ">\n\nNot really sure I’d consider Charlie Bucket and Veruca Salt as the same demographic.", ">\n\nPresumably old mate got confused between demographic and age bracket", ">\n\nAge is a demographic btw", ">\n\nOk. In the story, only Augustus Gloop and Mike Teavee are the same age (9), everyone else is a different age.\nBut why is it surprising that the main characters of a Roald Dahl Story are children? That’s kind of the point of all his children’s novels. \nThere is also almost always an element of magic, or at least the unexplained-possibly-paranormal in his books. In the novel, adults around the world searched like crazy for those tickets, but of course Wonka knows children will be the recipients because his factory, and indeed his candies, are made for children, and their imaginations. The tickets themselves were intended for children, never an adult.\nThe real convenience of it all lies in the the book being written for a target audience, and that audience is children… therefore, characters they relate to.", ">\n\nI wasn’t inherently disagreeing with you (I was responding to the person above who assumed you didn’t think age is a demographic), you can narrow the age demographic to whatever you want. I’d consider “children” to be a general age demographic, but if you want to split it up, that’s fair. \nUntil your response, I didn’t think you were referring to their age, but other points of their demographic profile (SES, culture, location, etc).", ">\n\nI’m sorry, I misunderstood! You are right in thinking I wasn’t referring to their age, btw. I agree they all fit an age demographic, but that’s hardly relevant compared to the social statuses Dahl has created for them.", ">\n\nIt's also incredibly convenient that Wonka's creepy-looking henchman was at the right time and place when all of them were discovered. Almost as if they were planted.", ">\n\nWell there was nothing \"incredibly convenient\" about the winners being English speakers. That was about 99% of the UK at the time.", ">\n\nBecause the only place willy wonkas factory shipped to was within the United Kingdoms borders?", ">\n\nExcept in the film (never read the book) it was implied Wonka’s chocolates shipped out all over the world. I mean, Augustus Gloop was Austrian/German.\nBut yeah, the fact that it was all children who got it would be statistically improbable.", ">\n\nMeh, more kids buy candy than adults, and every year there are more kids than adults.", ">\n\nRight, but the candy wasn’t the main prize. You got a lifetime supply of chocolate which could be sold hand over fist, which I’m sure plenty of adults considered in their quest to find the golden tickets. And plus an exclusive tour of the world’s most mysterious and profitable candy company would almost truly be a once in a lifetime event, and you’re telling me some rich celebrity wouldn’t swoop in and offer any one of those children $10mil cash for the golden ticket, just to have the prestige of going to Wonka’s factory? Just doesn’t add up.", ">\n\nTrue", ">\n\nHappy Cake Day, Jan", ">\n\nHappy what?", ">\n\nIt’s your cake day. Hence the little cake icon next to your username.", ">\n\nIt's because the thing was rigged from the start. Willy Wonka had no children of his own, so he was specifically looking for an heir to take over his empire.", ">\n\nAnd a few to murder.", ">\n\nAs you do", ">\n\nAs is tradition", ">\n\nAs You Were - LG", ">\n\nConsidering the children were all horrible can you think of the uproar on what nationality gets what arsehole behaviour.", ">\n\nI got the impression that Wonka had pretty elaborate plans for the kids, and selected them specifically to teach them lessons?", ">\n\nExactly. He chose Charlie, it was just the final test.", ">\n\nIn the gene wilder version, the candy store salesman admits he was hiding Wonka bars while they were auctioning for extreme prices. Why would a man in the business of selling candy for profit do that? Then, it's not until charlie says he wants to buy something for his grandfather that the candy seller chooses the type of bar for him, and that bar has the golden ticket. \nHe knew he had it, and was intentionally holding it for somebody who wasn't buying for themselves.", ">\n\nCharlie & the chocolate factory Lore", ">\n\nReminds me of how in Boruto, the main ladies of Naruto took a collective pregnancy pact to birth children in the same year.", ">\n\nWhat the fuck", ">\n\nThat's not literally what happened.\nThe naruto cast just had children in the same class at the start of boruto. Which makes kind of sense because Naruto ends with a giant war and those make people have children historically but it's also obviously to have a story in which all the original characters are involved through their children.\nBut it's also so obviously contrived that people joke they all made a pact to get pregnant at the same time because otherwise it's too convenient that they all have children at close to the same age.", ">\n\nThe kids of Boruto are literal baby boomers", ">\n\nThe book is set in 1960s England… What else would they speak?", ">\n\nAre you implying minorities didn't exist back in the 60s? Especially after the war?", ">\n\nNo, they're implying that in a book written in English and probably set in either England or America, the characters all speaking English is not at all surprising.", ">\n\nYou're completely missing out on OP's point by trying to be a contrarian", ">\n\nNo, I'm pointing out that it's a children's book that was written in English and set in a country where English is by far the most commonly spoken language. So the fact that the main characters are mostly children who speak English is not surprising at all. Disagreeing is not the same as being contrarian.", ">\n\nYou are missing out on OP's point", ">\n\nPlease do tell, o enlightened one! What point am I missing exactly?" ]

[ "This is a friendly reminder to read our rules.\nRemember, /r/Showerthoughts is for showerthoughts, not \"thoughts had in the shower!\"\n(For an explanation of what a \"showerthought\" is, please read this page.)\nRule-breaking posts may result in bans.", ">\n\nI mean, one of them was German, and other than that it appeared to be a mix of British and American kids.", ">\n\nExactly. Put some respect on our bilingual king Augustus Gloop’s name OP! 🍫🇩🇪", ">\n\nFun fact! Did you know the actress who played his mother (Save some room for later!) was in a porn right around that time?", ">\n\nI didn't believe you, so I checked. This appears to be true!", ">\n\nI mean Michael Scott tried this and all the tickets went to the same company.", ">\n\nOmg maybe that episode was really just to shine light on the fact that there is a reason that all the tickets wound up going to the same demographic", ">\n\nNot really sure I’d consider Charlie Bucket and Veruca Salt as the same demographic.", ">\n\nPresumably old mate got confused between demographic and age bracket", ">\n\nAge is a demographic btw", ">\n\nOk. In the story, only Augustus Gloop and Mike Teavee are the same age (9), everyone else is a different age.\nBut why is it surprising that the main characters of a Roald Dahl Story are children? That’s kind of the point of all his children’s novels. \nThere is also almost always an element of magic, or at least the unexplained-possibly-paranormal in his books. In the novel, adults around the world searched like crazy for those tickets, but of course Wonka knows children will be the recipients because his factory, and indeed his candies, are made for children, and their imaginations. The tickets themselves were intended for children, never an adult.\nThe real convenience of it all lies in the the book being written for a target audience, and that audience is children… therefore, characters they relate to.", ">\n\nI wasn’t inherently disagreeing with you (I was responding to the person above who assumed you didn’t think age is a demographic), you can narrow the age demographic to whatever you want. I’d consider “children” to be a general age demographic, but if you want to split it up, that’s fair. \nUntil your response, I didn’t think you were referring to their age, but other points of their demographic profile (SES, culture, location, etc).", ">\n\nI’m sorry, I misunderstood! You are right in thinking I wasn’t referring to their age, btw. I agree they all fit an age demographic, but that’s hardly relevant compared to the social statuses Dahl has created for them.", ">\n\nIt's also incredibly convenient that Wonka's creepy-looking henchman was at the right time and place when all of them were discovered. Almost as if they were planted.", ">\n\nWell there was nothing \"incredibly convenient\" about the winners being English speakers. That was about 99% of the UK at the time.", ">\n\nBecause the only place willy wonkas factory shipped to was within the United Kingdoms borders?", ">\n\nExcept in the film (never read the book) it was implied Wonka’s chocolates shipped out all over the world. I mean, Augustus Gloop was Austrian/German.\nBut yeah, the fact that it was all children who got it would be statistically improbable.", ">\n\nMeh, more kids buy candy than adults, and every year there are more kids than adults.", ">\n\nRight, but the candy wasn’t the main prize. You got a lifetime supply of chocolate which could be sold hand over fist, which I’m sure plenty of adults considered in their quest to find the golden tickets. And plus an exclusive tour of the world’s most mysterious and profitable candy company would almost truly be a once in a lifetime event, and you’re telling me some rich celebrity wouldn’t swoop in and offer any one of those children $10mil cash for the golden ticket, just to have the prestige of going to Wonka’s factory? Just doesn’t add up.", ">\n\nTrue", ">\n\nHappy Cake Day, Jan", ">\n\nHappy what?", ">\n\nIt’s your cake day. Hence the little cake icon next to your username.", ">\n\nIt's because the thing was rigged from the start. Willy Wonka had no children of his own, so he was specifically looking for an heir to take over his empire.", ">\n\nAnd a few to murder.", ">\n\nAs you do", ">\n\nAs is tradition", ">\n\nAs You Were - LG", ">\n\nConsidering the children were all horrible can you think of the uproar on what nationality gets what arsehole behaviour.", ">\n\nI got the impression that Wonka had pretty elaborate plans for the kids, and selected them specifically to teach them lessons?", ">\n\nExactly. He chose Charlie, it was just the final test.", ">\n\nIn the gene wilder version, the candy store salesman admits he was hiding Wonka bars while they were auctioning for extreme prices. Why would a man in the business of selling candy for profit do that? Then, it's not until charlie says he wants to buy something for his grandfather that the candy seller chooses the type of bar for him, and that bar has the golden ticket. \nHe knew he had it, and was intentionally holding it for somebody who wasn't buying for themselves.", ">\n\nCharlie & the chocolate factory Lore", ">\n\nReminds me of how in Boruto, the main ladies of Naruto took a collective pregnancy pact to birth children in the same year.", ">\n\nWhat the fuck", ">\n\nThat's not literally what happened.\nThe naruto cast just had children in the same class at the start of boruto. Which makes kind of sense because Naruto ends with a giant war and those make people have children historically but it's also obviously to have a story in which all the original characters are involved through their children.\nBut it's also so obviously contrived that people joke they all made a pact to get pregnant at the same time because otherwise it's too convenient that they all have children at close to the same age.", ">\n\nThe kids of Boruto are literal baby boomers", ">\n\nThe book is set in 1960s England… What else would they speak?", ">\n\nAre you implying minorities didn't exist back in the 60s? Especially after the war?", ">\n\nNo, they're implying that in a book written in English and probably set in either England or America, the characters all speaking English is not at all surprising.", ">\n\nYou're completely missing out on OP's point by trying to be a contrarian", ">\n\nNo, I'm pointing out that it's a children's book that was written in English and set in a country where English is by far the most commonly spoken language. So the fact that the main characters are mostly children who speak English is not surprising at all. Disagreeing is not the same as being contrarian.", ">\n\nYou are missing out on OP's point", ">\n\nPlease do tell, o enlightened one! What point am I missing exactly?", ">\n\nOr maybe they just didn’t ship the golden ticket chocolate bars to other countries… \nI doubt there we’re many people living in England who speak no English back in those days" ]

[ "This is a friendly reminder to read our rules.\nRemember, /r/Showerthoughts is for showerthoughts, not \"thoughts had in the shower!\"\n(For an explanation of what a \"showerthought\" is, please read this page.)\nRule-breaking posts may result in bans.", ">\n\nI mean, one of them was German, and other than that it appeared to be a mix of British and American kids.", ">\n\nExactly. Put some respect on our bilingual king Augustus Gloop’s name OP! 🍫🇩🇪", ">\n\nFun fact! Did you know the actress who played his mother (Save some room for later!) was in a porn right around that time?", ">\n\nI didn't believe you, so I checked. This appears to be true!", ">\n\nI mean Michael Scott tried this and all the tickets went to the same company.", ">\n\nOmg maybe that episode was really just to shine light on the fact that there is a reason that all the tickets wound up going to the same demographic", ">\n\nNot really sure I’d consider Charlie Bucket and Veruca Salt as the same demographic.", ">\n\nPresumably old mate got confused between demographic and age bracket", ">\n\nAge is a demographic btw", ">\n\nOk. In the story, only Augustus Gloop and Mike Teavee are the same age (9), everyone else is a different age.\nBut why is it surprising that the main characters of a Roald Dahl Story are children? That’s kind of the point of all his children’s novels. \nThere is also almost always an element of magic, or at least the unexplained-possibly-paranormal in his books. In the novel, adults around the world searched like crazy for those tickets, but of course Wonka knows children will be the recipients because his factory, and indeed his candies, are made for children, and their imaginations. The tickets themselves were intended for children, never an adult.\nThe real convenience of it all lies in the the book being written for a target audience, and that audience is children… therefore, characters they relate to.", ">\n\nI wasn’t inherently disagreeing with you (I was responding to the person above who assumed you didn’t think age is a demographic), you can narrow the age demographic to whatever you want. I’d consider “children” to be a general age demographic, but if you want to split it up, that’s fair. \nUntil your response, I didn’t think you were referring to their age, but other points of their demographic profile (SES, culture, location, etc).", ">\n\nI’m sorry, I misunderstood! You are right in thinking I wasn’t referring to their age, btw. I agree they all fit an age demographic, but that’s hardly relevant compared to the social statuses Dahl has created for them.", ">\n\nIt's also incredibly convenient that Wonka's creepy-looking henchman was at the right time and place when all of them were discovered. Almost as if they were planted.", ">\n\nWell there was nothing \"incredibly convenient\" about the winners being English speakers. That was about 99% of the UK at the time.", ">\n\nBecause the only place willy wonkas factory shipped to was within the United Kingdoms borders?", ">\n\nExcept in the film (never read the book) it was implied Wonka’s chocolates shipped out all over the world. I mean, Augustus Gloop was Austrian/German.\nBut yeah, the fact that it was all children who got it would be statistically improbable.", ">\n\nMeh, more kids buy candy than adults, and every year there are more kids than adults.", ">\n\nRight, but the candy wasn’t the main prize. You got a lifetime supply of chocolate which could be sold hand over fist, which I’m sure plenty of adults considered in their quest to find the golden tickets. And plus an exclusive tour of the world’s most mysterious and profitable candy company would almost truly be a once in a lifetime event, and you’re telling me some rich celebrity wouldn’t swoop in and offer any one of those children $10mil cash for the golden ticket, just to have the prestige of going to Wonka’s factory? Just doesn’t add up.", ">\n\nTrue", ">\n\nHappy Cake Day, Jan", ">\n\nHappy what?", ">\n\nIt’s your cake day. Hence the little cake icon next to your username.", ">\n\nIt's because the thing was rigged from the start. Willy Wonka had no children of his own, so he was specifically looking for an heir to take over his empire.", ">\n\nAnd a few to murder.", ">\n\nAs you do", ">\n\nAs is tradition", ">\n\nAs You Were - LG", ">\n\nConsidering the children were all horrible can you think of the uproar on what nationality gets what arsehole behaviour.", ">\n\nI got the impression that Wonka had pretty elaborate plans for the kids, and selected them specifically to teach them lessons?", ">\n\nExactly. He chose Charlie, it was just the final test.", ">\n\nIn the gene wilder version, the candy store salesman admits he was hiding Wonka bars while they were auctioning for extreme prices. Why would a man in the business of selling candy for profit do that? Then, it's not until charlie says he wants to buy something for his grandfather that the candy seller chooses the type of bar for him, and that bar has the golden ticket. \nHe knew he had it, and was intentionally holding it for somebody who wasn't buying for themselves.", ">\n\nCharlie & the chocolate factory Lore", ">\n\nReminds me of how in Boruto, the main ladies of Naruto took a collective pregnancy pact to birth children in the same year.", ">\n\nWhat the fuck", ">\n\nThat's not literally what happened.\nThe naruto cast just had children in the same class at the start of boruto. Which makes kind of sense because Naruto ends with a giant war and those make people have children historically but it's also obviously to have a story in which all the original characters are involved through their children.\nBut it's also so obviously contrived that people joke they all made a pact to get pregnant at the same time because otherwise it's too convenient that they all have children at close to the same age.", ">\n\nThe kids of Boruto are literal baby boomers", ">\n\nThe book is set in 1960s England… What else would they speak?", ">\n\nAre you implying minorities didn't exist back in the 60s? Especially after the war?", ">\n\nNo, they're implying that in a book written in English and probably set in either England or America, the characters all speaking English is not at all surprising.", ">\n\nYou're completely missing out on OP's point by trying to be a contrarian", ">\n\nNo, I'm pointing out that it's a children's book that was written in English and set in a country where English is by far the most commonly spoken language. So the fact that the main characters are mostly children who speak English is not surprising at all. Disagreeing is not the same as being contrarian.", ">\n\nYou are missing out on OP's point", ">\n\nPlease do tell, o enlightened one! What point am I missing exactly?", ">\n\nOr maybe they just didn’t ship the golden ticket chocolate bars to other countries… \nI doubt there we’re many people living in England who speak no English back in those days", ">\n\nAugustus Gloop was German, though? I mean, maybe he was a German immigrant who moved to England, but I was always under the impression that he lived in Germany based on his and his parents' accents." ]

[ "This is a friendly reminder to read our rules.\nRemember, /r/Showerthoughts is for showerthoughts, not \"thoughts had in the shower!\"\n(For an explanation of what a \"showerthought\" is, please read this page.)\nRule-breaking posts may result in bans.", ">\n\nI mean, one of them was German, and other than that it appeared to be a mix of British and American kids.", ">\n\nExactly. Put some respect on our bilingual king Augustus Gloop’s name OP! 🍫🇩🇪", ">\n\nFun fact! Did you know the actress who played his mother (Save some room for later!) was in a porn right around that time?", ">\n\nI didn't believe you, so I checked. This appears to be true!", ">\n\nI mean Michael Scott tried this and all the tickets went to the same company.", ">\n\nOmg maybe that episode was really just to shine light on the fact that there is a reason that all the tickets wound up going to the same demographic", ">\n\nNot really sure I’d consider Charlie Bucket and Veruca Salt as the same demographic.", ">\n\nPresumably old mate got confused between demographic and age bracket", ">\n\nAge is a demographic btw", ">\n\nOk. In the story, only Augustus Gloop and Mike Teavee are the same age (9), everyone else is a different age.\nBut why is it surprising that the main characters of a Roald Dahl Story are children? That’s kind of the point of all his children’s novels. \nThere is also almost always an element of magic, or at least the unexplained-possibly-paranormal in his books. In the novel, adults around the world searched like crazy for those tickets, but of course Wonka knows children will be the recipients because his factory, and indeed his candies, are made for children, and their imaginations. The tickets themselves were intended for children, never an adult.\nThe real convenience of it all lies in the the book being written for a target audience, and that audience is children… therefore, characters they relate to.", ">\n\nI wasn’t inherently disagreeing with you (I was responding to the person above who assumed you didn’t think age is a demographic), you can narrow the age demographic to whatever you want. I’d consider “children” to be a general age demographic, but if you want to split it up, that’s fair. \nUntil your response, I didn’t think you were referring to their age, but other points of their demographic profile (SES, culture, location, etc).", ">\n\nI’m sorry, I misunderstood! You are right in thinking I wasn’t referring to their age, btw. I agree they all fit an age demographic, but that’s hardly relevant compared to the social statuses Dahl has created for them.", ">\n\nIt's also incredibly convenient that Wonka's creepy-looking henchman was at the right time and place when all of them were discovered. Almost as if they were planted.", ">\n\nWell there was nothing \"incredibly convenient\" about the winners being English speakers. That was about 99% of the UK at the time.", ">\n\nBecause the only place willy wonkas factory shipped to was within the United Kingdoms borders?", ">\n\nExcept in the film (never read the book) it was implied Wonka’s chocolates shipped out all over the world. I mean, Augustus Gloop was Austrian/German.\nBut yeah, the fact that it was all children who got it would be statistically improbable.", ">\n\nMeh, more kids buy candy than adults, and every year there are more kids than adults.", ">\n\nRight, but the candy wasn’t the main prize. You got a lifetime supply of chocolate which could be sold hand over fist, which I’m sure plenty of adults considered in their quest to find the golden tickets. And plus an exclusive tour of the world’s most mysterious and profitable candy company would almost truly be a once in a lifetime event, and you’re telling me some rich celebrity wouldn’t swoop in and offer any one of those children $10mil cash for the golden ticket, just to have the prestige of going to Wonka’s factory? Just doesn’t add up.", ">\n\nTrue", ">\n\nHappy Cake Day, Jan", ">\n\nHappy what?", ">\n\nIt’s your cake day. Hence the little cake icon next to your username.", ">\n\nIt's because the thing was rigged from the start. Willy Wonka had no children of his own, so he was specifically looking for an heir to take over his empire.", ">\n\nAnd a few to murder.", ">\n\nAs you do", ">\n\nAs is tradition", ">\n\nAs You Were - LG", ">\n\nConsidering the children were all horrible can you think of the uproar on what nationality gets what arsehole behaviour.", ">\n\nI got the impression that Wonka had pretty elaborate plans for the kids, and selected them specifically to teach them lessons?", ">\n\nExactly. He chose Charlie, it was just the final test.", ">\n\nIn the gene wilder version, the candy store salesman admits he was hiding Wonka bars while they were auctioning for extreme prices. Why would a man in the business of selling candy for profit do that? Then, it's not until charlie says he wants to buy something for his grandfather that the candy seller chooses the type of bar for him, and that bar has the golden ticket. \nHe knew he had it, and was intentionally holding it for somebody who wasn't buying for themselves.", ">\n\nCharlie & the chocolate factory Lore", ">\n\nReminds me of how in Boruto, the main ladies of Naruto took a collective pregnancy pact to birth children in the same year.", ">\n\nWhat the fuck", ">\n\nThat's not literally what happened.\nThe naruto cast just had children in the same class at the start of boruto. Which makes kind of sense because Naruto ends with a giant war and those make people have children historically but it's also obviously to have a story in which all the original characters are involved through their children.\nBut it's also so obviously contrived that people joke they all made a pact to get pregnant at the same time because otherwise it's too convenient that they all have children at close to the same age.", ">\n\nThe kids of Boruto are literal baby boomers", ">\n\nThe book is set in 1960s England… What else would they speak?", ">\n\nAre you implying minorities didn't exist back in the 60s? Especially after the war?", ">\n\nNo, they're implying that in a book written in English and probably set in either England or America, the characters all speaking English is not at all surprising.", ">\n\nYou're completely missing out on OP's point by trying to be a contrarian", ">\n\nNo, I'm pointing out that it's a children's book that was written in English and set in a country where English is by far the most commonly spoken language. So the fact that the main characters are mostly children who speak English is not surprising at all. Disagreeing is not the same as being contrarian.", ">\n\nYou are missing out on OP's point", ">\n\nPlease do tell, o enlightened one! What point am I missing exactly?", ">\n\nOr maybe they just didn’t ship the golden ticket chocolate bars to other countries… \nI doubt there we’re many people living in England who speak no English back in those days", ">\n\nAugustus Gloop was German, though? I mean, maybe he was a German immigrant who moved to England, but I was always under the impression that he lived in Germany based on his and his parents' accents.", ">\n\nAnd I thought Mike was the American. What with all the cowboy gear. Could be from anywhere I guess." ]

[ "This is a friendly reminder to read our rules.\nRemember, /r/Showerthoughts is for showerthoughts, not \"thoughts had in the shower!\"\n(For an explanation of what a \"showerthought\" is, please read this page.)\nRule-breaking posts may result in bans.", ">\n\nI mean, one of them was German, and other than that it appeared to be a mix of British and American kids.", ">\n\nExactly. Put some respect on our bilingual king Augustus Gloop’s name OP! 🍫🇩🇪", ">\n\nFun fact! Did you know the actress who played his mother (Save some room for later!) was in a porn right around that time?", ">\n\nI didn't believe you, so I checked. This appears to be true!", ">\n\nI mean Michael Scott tried this and all the tickets went to the same company.", ">\n\nOmg maybe that episode was really just to shine light on the fact that there is a reason that all the tickets wound up going to the same demographic", ">\n\nNot really sure I’d consider Charlie Bucket and Veruca Salt as the same demographic.", ">\n\nPresumably old mate got confused between demographic and age bracket", ">\n\nAge is a demographic btw", ">\n\nOk. In the story, only Augustus Gloop and Mike Teavee are the same age (9), everyone else is a different age.\nBut why is it surprising that the main characters of a Roald Dahl Story are children? That’s kind of the point of all his children’s novels. \nThere is also almost always an element of magic, or at least the unexplained-possibly-paranormal in his books. In the novel, adults around the world searched like crazy for those tickets, but of course Wonka knows children will be the recipients because his factory, and indeed his candies, are made for children, and their imaginations. The tickets themselves were intended for children, never an adult.\nThe real convenience of it all lies in the the book being written for a target audience, and that audience is children… therefore, characters they relate to.", ">\n\nI wasn’t inherently disagreeing with you (I was responding to the person above who assumed you didn’t think age is a demographic), you can narrow the age demographic to whatever you want. I’d consider “children” to be a general age demographic, but if you want to split it up, that’s fair. \nUntil your response, I didn’t think you were referring to their age, but other points of their demographic profile (SES, culture, location, etc).", ">\n\nI’m sorry, I misunderstood! You are right in thinking I wasn’t referring to their age, btw. I agree they all fit an age demographic, but that’s hardly relevant compared to the social statuses Dahl has created for them.", ">\n\nIt's also incredibly convenient that Wonka's creepy-looking henchman was at the right time and place when all of them were discovered. Almost as if they were planted.", ">\n\nWell there was nothing \"incredibly convenient\" about the winners being English speakers. That was about 99% of the UK at the time.", ">\n\nBecause the only place willy wonkas factory shipped to was within the United Kingdoms borders?", ">\n\nExcept in the film (never read the book) it was implied Wonka’s chocolates shipped out all over the world. I mean, Augustus Gloop was Austrian/German.\nBut yeah, the fact that it was all children who got it would be statistically improbable.", ">\n\nMeh, more kids buy candy than adults, and every year there are more kids than adults.", ">\n\nRight, but the candy wasn’t the main prize. You got a lifetime supply of chocolate which could be sold hand over fist, which I’m sure plenty of adults considered in their quest to find the golden tickets. And plus an exclusive tour of the world’s most mysterious and profitable candy company would almost truly be a once in a lifetime event, and you’re telling me some rich celebrity wouldn’t swoop in and offer any one of those children $10mil cash for the golden ticket, just to have the prestige of going to Wonka’s factory? Just doesn’t add up.", ">\n\nTrue", ">\n\nHappy Cake Day, Jan", ">\n\nHappy what?", ">\n\nIt’s your cake day. Hence the little cake icon next to your username.", ">\n\nIt's because the thing was rigged from the start. Willy Wonka had no children of his own, so he was specifically looking for an heir to take over his empire.", ">\n\nAnd a few to murder.", ">\n\nAs you do", ">\n\nAs is tradition", ">\n\nAs You Were - LG", ">\n\nConsidering the children were all horrible can you think of the uproar on what nationality gets what arsehole behaviour.", ">\n\nI got the impression that Wonka had pretty elaborate plans for the kids, and selected them specifically to teach them lessons?", ">\n\nExactly. He chose Charlie, it was just the final test.", ">\n\nIn the gene wilder version, the candy store salesman admits he was hiding Wonka bars while they were auctioning for extreme prices. Why would a man in the business of selling candy for profit do that? Then, it's not until charlie says he wants to buy something for his grandfather that the candy seller chooses the type of bar for him, and that bar has the golden ticket. \nHe knew he had it, and was intentionally holding it for somebody who wasn't buying for themselves.", ">\n\nCharlie & the chocolate factory Lore", ">\n\nReminds me of how in Boruto, the main ladies of Naruto took a collective pregnancy pact to birth children in the same year.", ">\n\nWhat the fuck", ">\n\nThat's not literally what happened.\nThe naruto cast just had children in the same class at the start of boruto. Which makes kind of sense because Naruto ends with a giant war and those make people have children historically but it's also obviously to have a story in which all the original characters are involved through their children.\nBut it's also so obviously contrived that people joke they all made a pact to get pregnant at the same time because otherwise it's too convenient that they all have children at close to the same age.", ">\n\nThe kids of Boruto are literal baby boomers", ">\n\nThe book is set in 1960s England… What else would they speak?", ">\n\nAre you implying minorities didn't exist back in the 60s? Especially after the war?", ">\n\nNo, they're implying that in a book written in English and probably set in either England or America, the characters all speaking English is not at all surprising.", ">\n\nYou're completely missing out on OP's point by trying to be a contrarian", ">\n\nNo, I'm pointing out that it's a children's book that was written in English and set in a country where English is by far the most commonly spoken language. So the fact that the main characters are mostly children who speak English is not surprising at all. Disagreeing is not the same as being contrarian.", ">\n\nYou are missing out on OP's point", ">\n\nPlease do tell, o enlightened one! What point am I missing exactly?", ">\n\nOr maybe they just didn’t ship the golden ticket chocolate bars to other countries… \nI doubt there we’re many people living in England who speak no English back in those days", ">\n\nAugustus Gloop was German, though? I mean, maybe he was a German immigrant who moved to England, but I was always under the impression that he lived in Germany based on his and his parents' accents.", ">\n\nAnd I thought Mike was the American. What with all the cowboy gear. Could be from anywhere I guess.", ">\n\nYou are seeking logic in a movie where a piece of gum turns a girl into a blueberry… let that sink in" ]

[ "This is a friendly reminder to read our rules.\nRemember, /r/Showerthoughts is for showerthoughts, not \"thoughts had in the shower!\"\n(For an explanation of what a \"showerthought\" is, please read this page.)\nRule-breaking posts may result in bans.", ">\n\nI mean, one of them was German, and other than that it appeared to be a mix of British and American kids.", ">\n\nExactly. Put some respect on our bilingual king Augustus Gloop’s name OP! 🍫🇩🇪", ">\n\nFun fact! Did you know the actress who played his mother (Save some room for later!) was in a porn right around that time?", ">\n\nI didn't believe you, so I checked. This appears to be true!", ">\n\nI mean Michael Scott tried this and all the tickets went to the same company.", ">\n\nOmg maybe that episode was really just to shine light on the fact that there is a reason that all the tickets wound up going to the same demographic", ">\n\nNot really sure I’d consider Charlie Bucket and Veruca Salt as the same demographic.", ">\n\nPresumably old mate got confused between demographic and age bracket", ">\n\nAge is a demographic btw", ">\n\nOk. In the story, only Augustus Gloop and Mike Teavee are the same age (9), everyone else is a different age.\nBut why is it surprising that the main characters of a Roald Dahl Story are children? That’s kind of the point of all his children’s novels. \nThere is also almost always an element of magic, or at least the unexplained-possibly-paranormal in his books. In the novel, adults around the world searched like crazy for those tickets, but of course Wonka knows children will be the recipients because his factory, and indeed his candies, are made for children, and their imaginations. The tickets themselves were intended for children, never an adult.\nThe real convenience of it all lies in the the book being written for a target audience, and that audience is children… therefore, characters they relate to.", ">\n\nI wasn’t inherently disagreeing with you (I was responding to the person above who assumed you didn’t think age is a demographic), you can narrow the age demographic to whatever you want. I’d consider “children” to be a general age demographic, but if you want to split it up, that’s fair. \nUntil your response, I didn’t think you were referring to their age, but other points of their demographic profile (SES, culture, location, etc).", ">\n\nI’m sorry, I misunderstood! You are right in thinking I wasn’t referring to their age, btw. I agree they all fit an age demographic, but that’s hardly relevant compared to the social statuses Dahl has created for them.", ">\n\nIt's also incredibly convenient that Wonka's creepy-looking henchman was at the right time and place when all of them were discovered. Almost as if they were planted.", ">\n\nWell there was nothing \"incredibly convenient\" about the winners being English speakers. That was about 99% of the UK at the time.", ">\n\nBecause the only place willy wonkas factory shipped to was within the United Kingdoms borders?", ">\n\nExcept in the film (never read the book) it was implied Wonka’s chocolates shipped out all over the world. I mean, Augustus Gloop was Austrian/German.\nBut yeah, the fact that it was all children who got it would be statistically improbable.", ">\n\nMeh, more kids buy candy than adults, and every year there are more kids than adults.", ">\n\nRight, but the candy wasn’t the main prize. You got a lifetime supply of chocolate which could be sold hand over fist, which I’m sure plenty of adults considered in their quest to find the golden tickets. And plus an exclusive tour of the world’s most mysterious and profitable candy company would almost truly be a once in a lifetime event, and you’re telling me some rich celebrity wouldn’t swoop in and offer any one of those children $10mil cash for the golden ticket, just to have the prestige of going to Wonka’s factory? Just doesn’t add up.", ">\n\nTrue", ">\n\nHappy Cake Day, Jan", ">\n\nHappy what?", ">\n\nIt’s your cake day. Hence the little cake icon next to your username.", ">\n\nIt's because the thing was rigged from the start. Willy Wonka had no children of his own, so he was specifically looking for an heir to take over his empire.", ">\n\nAnd a few to murder.", ">\n\nAs you do", ">\n\nAs is tradition", ">\n\nAs You Were - LG", ">\n\nConsidering the children were all horrible can you think of the uproar on what nationality gets what arsehole behaviour.", ">\n\nI got the impression that Wonka had pretty elaborate plans for the kids, and selected them specifically to teach them lessons?", ">\n\nExactly. He chose Charlie, it was just the final test.", ">\n\nIn the gene wilder version, the candy store salesman admits he was hiding Wonka bars while they were auctioning for extreme prices. Why would a man in the business of selling candy for profit do that? Then, it's not until charlie says he wants to buy something for his grandfather that the candy seller chooses the type of bar for him, and that bar has the golden ticket. \nHe knew he had it, and was intentionally holding it for somebody who wasn't buying for themselves.", ">\n\nCharlie & the chocolate factory Lore", ">\n\nReminds me of how in Boruto, the main ladies of Naruto took a collective pregnancy pact to birth children in the same year.", ">\n\nWhat the fuck", ">\n\nThat's not literally what happened.\nThe naruto cast just had children in the same class at the start of boruto. Which makes kind of sense because Naruto ends with a giant war and those make people have children historically but it's also obviously to have a story in which all the original characters are involved through their children.\nBut it's also so obviously contrived that people joke they all made a pact to get pregnant at the same time because otherwise it's too convenient that they all have children at close to the same age.", ">\n\nThe kids of Boruto are literal baby boomers", ">\n\nThe book is set in 1960s England… What else would they speak?", ">\n\nAre you implying minorities didn't exist back in the 60s? Especially after the war?", ">\n\nNo, they're implying that in a book written in English and probably set in either England or America, the characters all speaking English is not at all surprising.", ">\n\nYou're completely missing out on OP's point by trying to be a contrarian", ">\n\nNo, I'm pointing out that it's a children's book that was written in English and set in a country where English is by far the most commonly spoken language. So the fact that the main characters are mostly children who speak English is not surprising at all. Disagreeing is not the same as being contrarian.", ">\n\nYou are missing out on OP's point", ">\n\nPlease do tell, o enlightened one! What point am I missing exactly?", ">\n\nOr maybe they just didn’t ship the golden ticket chocolate bars to other countries… \nI doubt there we’re many people living in England who speak no English back in those days", ">\n\nAugustus Gloop was German, though? I mean, maybe he was a German immigrant who moved to England, but I was always under the impression that he lived in Germany based on his and his parents' accents.", ">\n\nAnd I thought Mike was the American. What with all the cowboy gear. Could be from anywhere I guess.", ">\n\nYou are seeking logic in a movie where a piece of gum turns a girl into a blueberry… let that sink in", ">\n\n\"I do say, that song & dance all seemed a bit rehearsed!\" (Best line from the remake.)" ]

[ "This is a friendly reminder to read our rules.\nRemember, /r/Showerthoughts is for showerthoughts, not \"thoughts had in the shower!\"\n(For an explanation of what a \"showerthought\" is, please read this page.)\nRule-breaking posts may result in bans.", ">\n\nI mean, one of them was German, and other than that it appeared to be a mix of British and American kids.", ">\n\nExactly. Put some respect on our bilingual king Augustus Gloop’s name OP! 🍫🇩🇪", ">\n\nFun fact! Did you know the actress who played his mother (Save some room for later!) was in a porn right around that time?", ">\n\nI didn't believe you, so I checked. This appears to be true!", ">\n\nI mean Michael Scott tried this and all the tickets went to the same company.", ">\n\nOmg maybe that episode was really just to shine light on the fact that there is a reason that all the tickets wound up going to the same demographic", ">\n\nNot really sure I’d consider Charlie Bucket and Veruca Salt as the same demographic.", ">\n\nPresumably old mate got confused between demographic and age bracket", ">\n\nAge is a demographic btw", ">\n\nOk. In the story, only Augustus Gloop and Mike Teavee are the same age (9), everyone else is a different age.\nBut why is it surprising that the main characters of a Roald Dahl Story are children? That’s kind of the point of all his children’s novels. \nThere is also almost always an element of magic, or at least the unexplained-possibly-paranormal in his books. In the novel, adults around the world searched like crazy for those tickets, but of course Wonka knows children will be the recipients because his factory, and indeed his candies, are made for children, and their imaginations. The tickets themselves were intended for children, never an adult.\nThe real convenience of it all lies in the the book being written for a target audience, and that audience is children… therefore, characters they relate to.", ">\n\nI wasn’t inherently disagreeing with you (I was responding to the person above who assumed you didn’t think age is a demographic), you can narrow the age demographic to whatever you want. I’d consider “children” to be a general age demographic, but if you want to split it up, that’s fair. \nUntil your response, I didn’t think you were referring to their age, but other points of their demographic profile (SES, culture, location, etc).", ">\n\nI’m sorry, I misunderstood! You are right in thinking I wasn’t referring to their age, btw. I agree they all fit an age demographic, but that’s hardly relevant compared to the social statuses Dahl has created for them.", ">\n\nIt's also incredibly convenient that Wonka's creepy-looking henchman was at the right time and place when all of them were discovered. Almost as if they were planted.", ">\n\nWell there was nothing \"incredibly convenient\" about the winners being English speakers. That was about 99% of the UK at the time.", ">\n\nBecause the only place willy wonkas factory shipped to was within the United Kingdoms borders?", ">\n\nExcept in the film (never read the book) it was implied Wonka’s chocolates shipped out all over the world. I mean, Augustus Gloop was Austrian/German.\nBut yeah, the fact that it was all children who got it would be statistically improbable.", ">\n\nMeh, more kids buy candy than adults, and every year there are more kids than adults.", ">\n\nRight, but the candy wasn’t the main prize. You got a lifetime supply of chocolate which could be sold hand over fist, which I’m sure plenty of adults considered in their quest to find the golden tickets. And plus an exclusive tour of the world’s most mysterious and profitable candy company would almost truly be a once in a lifetime event, and you’re telling me some rich celebrity wouldn’t swoop in and offer any one of those children $10mil cash for the golden ticket, just to have the prestige of going to Wonka’s factory? Just doesn’t add up.", ">\n\nTrue", ">\n\nHappy Cake Day, Jan", ">\n\nHappy what?", ">\n\nIt’s your cake day. Hence the little cake icon next to your username.", ">\n\nIt's because the thing was rigged from the start. Willy Wonka had no children of his own, so he was specifically looking for an heir to take over his empire.", ">\n\nAnd a few to murder.", ">\n\nAs you do", ">\n\nAs is tradition", ">\n\nAs You Were - LG", ">\n\nConsidering the children were all horrible can you think of the uproar on what nationality gets what arsehole behaviour.", ">\n\nI got the impression that Wonka had pretty elaborate plans for the kids, and selected them specifically to teach them lessons?", ">\n\nExactly. He chose Charlie, it was just the final test.", ">\n\nIn the gene wilder version, the candy store salesman admits he was hiding Wonka bars while they were auctioning for extreme prices. Why would a man in the business of selling candy for profit do that? Then, it's not until charlie says he wants to buy something for his grandfather that the candy seller chooses the type of bar for him, and that bar has the golden ticket. \nHe knew he had it, and was intentionally holding it for somebody who wasn't buying for themselves.", ">\n\nCharlie & the chocolate factory Lore", ">\n\nReminds me of how in Boruto, the main ladies of Naruto took a collective pregnancy pact to birth children in the same year.", ">\n\nWhat the fuck", ">\n\nThat's not literally what happened.\nThe naruto cast just had children in the same class at the start of boruto. Which makes kind of sense because Naruto ends with a giant war and those make people have children historically but it's also obviously to have a story in which all the original characters are involved through their children.\nBut it's also so obviously contrived that people joke they all made a pact to get pregnant at the same time because otherwise it's too convenient that they all have children at close to the same age.", ">\n\nThe kids of Boruto are literal baby boomers", ">\n\nThe book is set in 1960s England… What else would they speak?", ">\n\nAre you implying minorities didn't exist back in the 60s? Especially after the war?", ">\n\nNo, they're implying that in a book written in English and probably set in either England or America, the characters all speaking English is not at all surprising.", ">\n\nYou're completely missing out on OP's point by trying to be a contrarian", ">\n\nNo, I'm pointing out that it's a children's book that was written in English and set in a country where English is by far the most commonly spoken language. So the fact that the main characters are mostly children who speak English is not surprising at all. Disagreeing is not the same as being contrarian.", ">\n\nYou are missing out on OP's point", ">\n\nPlease do tell, o enlightened one! What point am I missing exactly?", ">\n\nOr maybe they just didn’t ship the golden ticket chocolate bars to other countries… \nI doubt there we’re many people living in England who speak no English back in those days", ">\n\nAugustus Gloop was German, though? I mean, maybe he was a German immigrant who moved to England, but I was always under the impression that he lived in Germany based on his and his parents' accents.", ">\n\nAnd I thought Mike was the American. What with all the cowboy gear. Could be from anywhere I guess.", ">\n\nYou are seeking logic in a movie where a piece of gum turns a girl into a blueberry… let that sink in", ">\n\n\"I do say, that song & dance all seemed a bit rehearsed!\" (Best line from the remake.)", ">\n\nTLDW - \nBetween 12% and 24%\nThe range is caused when the definition of “white person/English speaking” is changed" ]

[ "This is a friendly reminder to read our rules.\nRemember, /r/Showerthoughts is for showerthoughts, not \"thoughts had in the shower!\"\n(For an explanation of what a \"showerthought\" is, please read this page.)\nRule-breaking posts may result in bans.", ">\n\nI mean, one of them was German, and other than that it appeared to be a mix of British and American kids.", ">\n\nExactly. Put some respect on our bilingual king Augustus Gloop’s name OP! 🍫🇩🇪", ">\n\nFun fact! Did you know the actress who played his mother (Save some room for later!) was in a porn right around that time?", ">\n\nI didn't believe you, so I checked. This appears to be true!", ">\n\nI mean Michael Scott tried this and all the tickets went to the same company.", ">\n\nOmg maybe that episode was really just to shine light on the fact that there is a reason that all the tickets wound up going to the same demographic", ">\n\nNot really sure I’d consider Charlie Bucket and Veruca Salt as the same demographic.", ">\n\nPresumably old mate got confused between demographic and age bracket", ">\n\nAge is a demographic btw", ">\n\nOk. In the story, only Augustus Gloop and Mike Teavee are the same age (9), everyone else is a different age.\nBut why is it surprising that the main characters of a Roald Dahl Story are children? That’s kind of the point of all his children’s novels. \nThere is also almost always an element of magic, or at least the unexplained-possibly-paranormal in his books. In the novel, adults around the world searched like crazy for those tickets, but of course Wonka knows children will be the recipients because his factory, and indeed his candies, are made for children, and their imaginations. The tickets themselves were intended for children, never an adult.\nThe real convenience of it all lies in the the book being written for a target audience, and that audience is children… therefore, characters they relate to.", ">\n\nI wasn’t inherently disagreeing with you (I was responding to the person above who assumed you didn’t think age is a demographic), you can narrow the age demographic to whatever you want. I’d consider “children” to be a general age demographic, but if you want to split it up, that’s fair. \nUntil your response, I didn’t think you were referring to their age, but other points of their demographic profile (SES, culture, location, etc).", ">\n\nI’m sorry, I misunderstood! You are right in thinking I wasn’t referring to their age, btw. I agree they all fit an age demographic, but that’s hardly relevant compared to the social statuses Dahl has created for them.", ">\n\nIt's also incredibly convenient that Wonka's creepy-looking henchman was at the right time and place when all of them were discovered. Almost as if they were planted.", ">\n\nWell there was nothing \"incredibly convenient\" about the winners being English speakers. That was about 99% of the UK at the time.", ">\n\nBecause the only place willy wonkas factory shipped to was within the United Kingdoms borders?", ">\n\nExcept in the film (never read the book) it was implied Wonka’s chocolates shipped out all over the world. I mean, Augustus Gloop was Austrian/German.\nBut yeah, the fact that it was all children who got it would be statistically improbable.", ">\n\nMeh, more kids buy candy than adults, and every year there are more kids than adults.", ">\n\nRight, but the candy wasn’t the main prize. You got a lifetime supply of chocolate which could be sold hand over fist, which I’m sure plenty of adults considered in their quest to find the golden tickets. And plus an exclusive tour of the world’s most mysterious and profitable candy company would almost truly be a once in a lifetime event, and you’re telling me some rich celebrity wouldn’t swoop in and offer any one of those children $10mil cash for the golden ticket, just to have the prestige of going to Wonka’s factory? Just doesn’t add up.", ">\n\nTrue", ">\n\nHappy Cake Day, Jan", ">\n\nHappy what?", ">\n\nIt’s your cake day. Hence the little cake icon next to your username.", ">\n\nIt's because the thing was rigged from the start. Willy Wonka had no children of his own, so he was specifically looking for an heir to take over his empire.", ">\n\nAnd a few to murder.", ">\n\nAs you do", ">\n\nAs is tradition", ">\n\nAs You Were - LG", ">\n\nConsidering the children were all horrible can you think of the uproar on what nationality gets what arsehole behaviour.", ">\n\nI got the impression that Wonka had pretty elaborate plans for the kids, and selected them specifically to teach them lessons?", ">\n\nExactly. He chose Charlie, it was just the final test.", ">\n\nIn the gene wilder version, the candy store salesman admits he was hiding Wonka bars while they were auctioning for extreme prices. Why would a man in the business of selling candy for profit do that? Then, it's not until charlie says he wants to buy something for his grandfather that the candy seller chooses the type of bar for him, and that bar has the golden ticket. \nHe knew he had it, and was intentionally holding it for somebody who wasn't buying for themselves.", ">\n\nCharlie & the chocolate factory Lore", ">\n\nReminds me of how in Boruto, the main ladies of Naruto took a collective pregnancy pact to birth children in the same year.", ">\n\nWhat the fuck", ">\n\nThat's not literally what happened.\nThe naruto cast just had children in the same class at the start of boruto. Which makes kind of sense because Naruto ends with a giant war and those make people have children historically but it's also obviously to have a story in which all the original characters are involved through their children.\nBut it's also so obviously contrived that people joke they all made a pact to get pregnant at the same time because otherwise it's too convenient that they all have children at close to the same age.", ">\n\nThe kids of Boruto are literal baby boomers", ">\n\nThe book is set in 1960s England… What else would they speak?", ">\n\nAre you implying minorities didn't exist back in the 60s? Especially after the war?", ">\n\nNo, they're implying that in a book written in English and probably set in either England or America, the characters all speaking English is not at all surprising.", ">\n\nYou're completely missing out on OP's point by trying to be a contrarian", ">\n\nNo, I'm pointing out that it's a children's book that was written in English and set in a country where English is by far the most commonly spoken language. So the fact that the main characters are mostly children who speak English is not surprising at all. Disagreeing is not the same as being contrarian.", ">\n\nYou are missing out on OP's point", ">\n\nPlease do tell, o enlightened one! What point am I missing exactly?", ">\n\nOr maybe they just didn’t ship the golden ticket chocolate bars to other countries… \nI doubt there we’re many people living in England who speak no English back in those days", ">\n\nAugustus Gloop was German, though? I mean, maybe he was a German immigrant who moved to England, but I was always under the impression that he lived in Germany based on his and his parents' accents.", ">\n\nAnd I thought Mike was the American. What with all the cowboy gear. Could be from anywhere I guess.", ">\n\nYou are seeking logic in a movie where a piece of gum turns a girl into a blueberry… let that sink in", ">\n\n\"I do say, that song & dance all seemed a bit rehearsed!\" (Best line from the remake.)", ">\n\nTLDW - \nBetween 12% and 24%\nThe range is caused when the definition of “white person/English speaking” is changed", ">\n\nI'll bet when you consider that globalization want a thing in the 1920s and you eliminate basically all of Asia, Africa, and South America considering an American candy company's distribution network. The British kid was from a wealthy family who spent insane amounts of money to find a ticket. \nThe the German kid is the most odd to me. How popular has American chocolate ever been in Germany? I'm guessing that is not very popular and that since his family only seemed relatively well off, a trip to America may have been a prohibitive expense due nothing more than a candy factory tour.\nEdit: TIL that the story took place in England (definitely at the forefront of globalization, even in the 1920s). So, that pretty much destroys the logic of my argument." ]

[ "This is a friendly reminder to read our rules.\nRemember, /r/Showerthoughts is for showerthoughts, not \"thoughts had in the shower!\"\n(For an explanation of what a \"showerthought\" is, please read this page.)\nRule-breaking posts may result in bans.", ">\n\nI mean, one of them was German, and other than that it appeared to be a mix of British and American kids.", ">\n\nExactly. Put some respect on our bilingual king Augustus Gloop’s name OP! 🍫🇩🇪", ">\n\nFun fact! Did you know the actress who played his mother (Save some room for later!) was in a porn right around that time?", ">\n\nI didn't believe you, so I checked. This appears to be true!", ">\n\nI mean Michael Scott tried this and all the tickets went to the same company.", ">\n\nOmg maybe that episode was really just to shine light on the fact that there is a reason that all the tickets wound up going to the same demographic", ">\n\nNot really sure I’d consider Charlie Bucket and Veruca Salt as the same demographic.", ">\n\nPresumably old mate got confused between demographic and age bracket", ">\n\nAge is a demographic btw", ">\n\nOk. In the story, only Augustus Gloop and Mike Teavee are the same age (9), everyone else is a different age.\nBut why is it surprising that the main characters of a Roald Dahl Story are children? That’s kind of the point of all his children’s novels. \nThere is also almost always an element of magic, or at least the unexplained-possibly-paranormal in his books. In the novel, adults around the world searched like crazy for those tickets, but of course Wonka knows children will be the recipients because his factory, and indeed his candies, are made for children, and their imaginations. The tickets themselves were intended for children, never an adult.\nThe real convenience of it all lies in the the book being written for a target audience, and that audience is children… therefore, characters they relate to.", ">\n\nI wasn’t inherently disagreeing with you (I was responding to the person above who assumed you didn’t think age is a demographic), you can narrow the age demographic to whatever you want. I’d consider “children” to be a general age demographic, but if you want to split it up, that’s fair. \nUntil your response, I didn’t think you were referring to their age, but other points of their demographic profile (SES, culture, location, etc).", ">\n\nI’m sorry, I misunderstood! You are right in thinking I wasn’t referring to their age, btw. I agree they all fit an age demographic, but that’s hardly relevant compared to the social statuses Dahl has created for them.", ">\n\nIt's also incredibly convenient that Wonka's creepy-looking henchman was at the right time and place when all of them were discovered. Almost as if they were planted.", ">\n\nWell there was nothing \"incredibly convenient\" about the winners being English speakers. That was about 99% of the UK at the time.", ">\n\nBecause the only place willy wonkas factory shipped to was within the United Kingdoms borders?", ">\n\nExcept in the film (never read the book) it was implied Wonka’s chocolates shipped out all over the world. I mean, Augustus Gloop was Austrian/German.\nBut yeah, the fact that it was all children who got it would be statistically improbable.", ">\n\nMeh, more kids buy candy than adults, and every year there are more kids than adults.", ">\n\nRight, but the candy wasn’t the main prize. You got a lifetime supply of chocolate which could be sold hand over fist, which I’m sure plenty of adults considered in their quest to find the golden tickets. And plus an exclusive tour of the world’s most mysterious and profitable candy company would almost truly be a once in a lifetime event, and you’re telling me some rich celebrity wouldn’t swoop in and offer any one of those children $10mil cash for the golden ticket, just to have the prestige of going to Wonka’s factory? Just doesn’t add up.", ">\n\nTrue", ">\n\nHappy Cake Day, Jan", ">\n\nHappy what?", ">\n\nIt’s your cake day. Hence the little cake icon next to your username.", ">\n\nIt's because the thing was rigged from the start. Willy Wonka had no children of his own, so he was specifically looking for an heir to take over his empire.", ">\n\nAnd a few to murder.", ">\n\nAs you do", ">\n\nAs is tradition", ">\n\nAs You Were - LG", ">\n\nConsidering the children were all horrible can you think of the uproar on what nationality gets what arsehole behaviour.", ">\n\nI got the impression that Wonka had pretty elaborate plans for the kids, and selected them specifically to teach them lessons?", ">\n\nExactly. He chose Charlie, it was just the final test.", ">\n\nIn the gene wilder version, the candy store salesman admits he was hiding Wonka bars while they were auctioning for extreme prices. Why would a man in the business of selling candy for profit do that? Then, it's not until charlie says he wants to buy something for his grandfather that the candy seller chooses the type of bar for him, and that bar has the golden ticket. \nHe knew he had it, and was intentionally holding it for somebody who wasn't buying for themselves.", ">\n\nCharlie & the chocolate factory Lore", ">\n\nReminds me of how in Boruto, the main ladies of Naruto took a collective pregnancy pact to birth children in the same year.", ">\n\nWhat the fuck", ">\n\nThat's not literally what happened.\nThe naruto cast just had children in the same class at the start of boruto. Which makes kind of sense because Naruto ends with a giant war and those make people have children historically but it's also obviously to have a story in which all the original characters are involved through their children.\nBut it's also so obviously contrived that people joke they all made a pact to get pregnant at the same time because otherwise it's too convenient that they all have children at close to the same age.", ">\n\nThe kids of Boruto are literal baby boomers", ">\n\nThe book is set in 1960s England… What else would they speak?", ">\n\nAre you implying minorities didn't exist back in the 60s? Especially after the war?", ">\n\nNo, they're implying that in a book written in English and probably set in either England or America, the characters all speaking English is not at all surprising.", ">\n\nYou're completely missing out on OP's point by trying to be a contrarian", ">\n\nNo, I'm pointing out that it's a children's book that was written in English and set in a country where English is by far the most commonly spoken language. So the fact that the main characters are mostly children who speak English is not surprising at all. Disagreeing is not the same as being contrarian.", ">\n\nYou are missing out on OP's point", ">\n\nPlease do tell, o enlightened one! What point am I missing exactly?", ">\n\nOr maybe they just didn’t ship the golden ticket chocolate bars to other countries… \nI doubt there we’re many people living in England who speak no English back in those days", ">\n\nAugustus Gloop was German, though? I mean, maybe he was a German immigrant who moved to England, but I was always under the impression that he lived in Germany based on his and his parents' accents.", ">\n\nAnd I thought Mike was the American. What with all the cowboy gear. Could be from anywhere I guess.", ">\n\nYou are seeking logic in a movie where a piece of gum turns a girl into a blueberry… let that sink in", ">\n\n\"I do say, that song & dance all seemed a bit rehearsed!\" (Best line from the remake.)", ">\n\nTLDW - \nBetween 12% and 24%\nThe range is caused when the definition of “white person/English speaking” is changed", ">\n\nI'll bet when you consider that globalization want a thing in the 1920s and you eliminate basically all of Asia, Africa, and South America considering an American candy company's distribution network. The British kid was from a wealthy family who spent insane amounts of money to find a ticket. \nThe the German kid is the most odd to me. How popular has American chocolate ever been in Germany? I'm guessing that is not very popular and that since his family only seemed relatively well off, a trip to America may have been a prohibitive expense due nothing more than a candy factory tour.\nEdit: TIL that the story took place in England (definitely at the forefront of globalization, even in the 1920s). So, that pretty much destroys the logic of my argument.", ">\n\nKid was also a chubster who inhaled sweets like air." ]

[ "This is a friendly reminder to read our rules.\nRemember, /r/Showerthoughts is for showerthoughts, not \"thoughts had in the shower!\"\n(For an explanation of what a \"showerthought\" is, please read this page.)\nRule-breaking posts may result in bans.", ">\n\nI mean, one of them was German, and other than that it appeared to be a mix of British and American kids.", ">\n\nExactly. Put some respect on our bilingual king Augustus Gloop’s name OP! 🍫🇩🇪", ">\n\nFun fact! Did you know the actress who played his mother (Save some room for later!) was in a porn right around that time?", ">\n\nI didn't believe you, so I checked. This appears to be true!", ">\n\nI mean Michael Scott tried this and all the tickets went to the same company.", ">\n\nOmg maybe that episode was really just to shine light on the fact that there is a reason that all the tickets wound up going to the same demographic", ">\n\nNot really sure I’d consider Charlie Bucket and Veruca Salt as the same demographic.", ">\n\nPresumably old mate got confused between demographic and age bracket", ">\n\nAge is a demographic btw", ">\n\nOk. In the story, only Augustus Gloop and Mike Teavee are the same age (9), everyone else is a different age.\nBut why is it surprising that the main characters of a Roald Dahl Story are children? That’s kind of the point of all his children’s novels. \nThere is also almost always an element of magic, or at least the unexplained-possibly-paranormal in his books. In the novel, adults around the world searched like crazy for those tickets, but of course Wonka knows children will be the recipients because his factory, and indeed his candies, are made for children, and their imaginations. The tickets themselves were intended for children, never an adult.\nThe real convenience of it all lies in the the book being written for a target audience, and that audience is children… therefore, characters they relate to.", ">\n\nI wasn’t inherently disagreeing with you (I was responding to the person above who assumed you didn’t think age is a demographic), you can narrow the age demographic to whatever you want. I’d consider “children” to be a general age demographic, but if you want to split it up, that’s fair. \nUntil your response, I didn’t think you were referring to their age, but other points of their demographic profile (SES, culture, location, etc).", ">\n\nI’m sorry, I misunderstood! You are right in thinking I wasn’t referring to their age, btw. I agree they all fit an age demographic, but that’s hardly relevant compared to the social statuses Dahl has created for them.", ">\n\nIt's also incredibly convenient that Wonka's creepy-looking henchman was at the right time and place when all of them were discovered. Almost as if they were planted.", ">\n\nWell there was nothing \"incredibly convenient\" about the winners being English speakers. That was about 99% of the UK at the time.", ">\n\nBecause the only place willy wonkas factory shipped to was within the United Kingdoms borders?", ">\n\nExcept in the film (never read the book) it was implied Wonka’s chocolates shipped out all over the world. I mean, Augustus Gloop was Austrian/German.\nBut yeah, the fact that it was all children who got it would be statistically improbable.", ">\n\nMeh, more kids buy candy than adults, and every year there are more kids than adults.", ">\n\nRight, but the candy wasn’t the main prize. You got a lifetime supply of chocolate which could be sold hand over fist, which I’m sure plenty of adults considered in their quest to find the golden tickets. And plus an exclusive tour of the world’s most mysterious and profitable candy company would almost truly be a once in a lifetime event, and you’re telling me some rich celebrity wouldn’t swoop in and offer any one of those children $10mil cash for the golden ticket, just to have the prestige of going to Wonka’s factory? Just doesn’t add up.", ">\n\nTrue", ">\n\nHappy Cake Day, Jan", ">\n\nHappy what?", ">\n\nIt’s your cake day. Hence the little cake icon next to your username.", ">\n\nIt's because the thing was rigged from the start. Willy Wonka had no children of his own, so he was specifically looking for an heir to take over his empire.", ">\n\nAnd a few to murder.", ">\n\nAs you do", ">\n\nAs is tradition", ">\n\nAs You Were - LG", ">\n\nConsidering the children were all horrible can you think of the uproar on what nationality gets what arsehole behaviour.", ">\n\nI got the impression that Wonka had pretty elaborate plans for the kids, and selected them specifically to teach them lessons?", ">\n\nExactly. He chose Charlie, it was just the final test.", ">\n\nIn the gene wilder version, the candy store salesman admits he was hiding Wonka bars while they were auctioning for extreme prices. Why would a man in the business of selling candy for profit do that? Then, it's not until charlie says he wants to buy something for his grandfather that the candy seller chooses the type of bar for him, and that bar has the golden ticket. \nHe knew he had it, and was intentionally holding it for somebody who wasn't buying for themselves.", ">\n\nCharlie & the chocolate factory Lore", ">\n\nReminds me of how in Boruto, the main ladies of Naruto took a collective pregnancy pact to birth children in the same year.", ">\n\nWhat the fuck", ">\n\nThat's not literally what happened.\nThe naruto cast just had children in the same class at the start of boruto. Which makes kind of sense because Naruto ends with a giant war and those make people have children historically but it's also obviously to have a story in which all the original characters are involved through their children.\nBut it's also so obviously contrived that people joke they all made a pact to get pregnant at the same time because otherwise it's too convenient that they all have children at close to the same age.", ">\n\nThe kids of Boruto are literal baby boomers", ">\n\nThe book is set in 1960s England… What else would they speak?", ">\n\nAre you implying minorities didn't exist back in the 60s? Especially after the war?", ">\n\nNo, they're implying that in a book written in English and probably set in either England or America, the characters all speaking English is not at all surprising.", ">\n\nYou're completely missing out on OP's point by trying to be a contrarian", ">\n\nNo, I'm pointing out that it's a children's book that was written in English and set in a country where English is by far the most commonly spoken language. So the fact that the main characters are mostly children who speak English is not surprising at all. Disagreeing is not the same as being contrarian.", ">\n\nYou are missing out on OP's point", ">\n\nPlease do tell, o enlightened one! What point am I missing exactly?", ">\n\nOr maybe they just didn’t ship the golden ticket chocolate bars to other countries… \nI doubt there we’re many people living in England who speak no English back in those days", ">\n\nAugustus Gloop was German, though? I mean, maybe he was a German immigrant who moved to England, but I was always under the impression that he lived in Germany based on his and his parents' accents.", ">\n\nAnd I thought Mike was the American. What with all the cowboy gear. Could be from anywhere I guess.", ">\n\nYou are seeking logic in a movie where a piece of gum turns a girl into a blueberry… let that sink in", ">\n\n\"I do say, that song & dance all seemed a bit rehearsed!\" (Best line from the remake.)", ">\n\nTLDW - \nBetween 12% and 24%\nThe range is caused when the definition of “white person/English speaking” is changed", ">\n\nI'll bet when you consider that globalization want a thing in the 1920s and you eliminate basically all of Asia, Africa, and South America considering an American candy company's distribution network. The British kid was from a wealthy family who spent insane amounts of money to find a ticket. \nThe the German kid is the most odd to me. How popular has American chocolate ever been in Germany? I'm guessing that is not very popular and that since his family only seemed relatively well off, a trip to America may have been a prohibitive expense due nothing more than a candy factory tour.\nEdit: TIL that the story took place in England (definitely at the forefront of globalization, even in the 1920s). So, that pretty much destroys the logic of my argument.", ">\n\nKid was also a chubster who inhaled sweets like air.", ">\n\nTo be fair English speaking countries tend to be richer therefore more kids there will buy more chocolate and therefore are more likely to get the tickets (Eg. Veruca buying hundreds of chocolates will give her a higher probability of landing a golden ticket than Charlie who can only afford one). \nBut yeah the fact that they’re children makes it rigged. Like I’m sure a teenager or even an adult would’ve gotten one because they bought chocolates too not just the kids." ]

[ "This is a friendly reminder to read our rules.\nRemember, /r/Showerthoughts is for showerthoughts, not \"thoughts had in the shower!\"\n(For an explanation of what a \"showerthought\" is, please read this page.)\nRule-breaking posts may result in bans.", ">\n\nI mean, one of them was German, and other than that it appeared to be a mix of British and American kids.", ">\n\nExactly. Put some respect on our bilingual king Augustus Gloop’s name OP! 🍫🇩🇪", ">\n\nFun fact! Did you know the actress who played his mother (Save some room for later!) was in a porn right around that time?", ">\n\nI didn't believe you, so I checked. This appears to be true!", ">\n\nI mean Michael Scott tried this and all the tickets went to the same company.", ">\n\nOmg maybe that episode was really just to shine light on the fact that there is a reason that all the tickets wound up going to the same demographic", ">\n\nNot really sure I’d consider Charlie Bucket and Veruca Salt as the same demographic.", ">\n\nPresumably old mate got confused between demographic and age bracket", ">\n\nAge is a demographic btw", ">\n\nOk. In the story, only Augustus Gloop and Mike Teavee are the same age (9), everyone else is a different age.\nBut why is it surprising that the main characters of a Roald Dahl Story are children? That’s kind of the point of all his children’s novels. \nThere is also almost always an element of magic, or at least the unexplained-possibly-paranormal in his books. In the novel, adults around the world searched like crazy for those tickets, but of course Wonka knows children will be the recipients because his factory, and indeed his candies, are made for children, and their imaginations. The tickets themselves were intended for children, never an adult.\nThe real convenience of it all lies in the the book being written for a target audience, and that audience is children… therefore, characters they relate to.", ">\n\nI wasn’t inherently disagreeing with you (I was responding to the person above who assumed you didn’t think age is a demographic), you can narrow the age demographic to whatever you want. I’d consider “children” to be a general age demographic, but if you want to split it up, that’s fair. \nUntil your response, I didn’t think you were referring to their age, but other points of their demographic profile (SES, culture, location, etc).", ">\n\nI’m sorry, I misunderstood! You are right in thinking I wasn’t referring to their age, btw. I agree they all fit an age demographic, but that’s hardly relevant compared to the social statuses Dahl has created for them.", ">\n\nIt's also incredibly convenient that Wonka's creepy-looking henchman was at the right time and place when all of them were discovered. Almost as if they were planted.", ">\n\nWell there was nothing \"incredibly convenient\" about the winners being English speakers. That was about 99% of the UK at the time.", ">\n\nBecause the only place willy wonkas factory shipped to was within the United Kingdoms borders?", ">\n\nExcept in the film (never read the book) it was implied Wonka’s chocolates shipped out all over the world. I mean, Augustus Gloop was Austrian/German.\nBut yeah, the fact that it was all children who got it would be statistically improbable.", ">\n\nMeh, more kids buy candy than adults, and every year there are more kids than adults.", ">\n\nRight, but the candy wasn’t the main prize. You got a lifetime supply of chocolate which could be sold hand over fist, which I’m sure plenty of adults considered in their quest to find the golden tickets. And plus an exclusive tour of the world’s most mysterious and profitable candy company would almost truly be a once in a lifetime event, and you’re telling me some rich celebrity wouldn’t swoop in and offer any one of those children $10mil cash for the golden ticket, just to have the prestige of going to Wonka’s factory? Just doesn’t add up.", ">\n\nTrue", ">\n\nHappy Cake Day, Jan", ">\n\nHappy what?", ">\n\nIt’s your cake day. Hence the little cake icon next to your username.", ">\n\nIt's because the thing was rigged from the start. Willy Wonka had no children of his own, so he was specifically looking for an heir to take over his empire.", ">\n\nAnd a few to murder.", ">\n\nAs you do", ">\n\nAs is tradition", ">\n\nAs You Were - LG", ">\n\nConsidering the children were all horrible can you think of the uproar on what nationality gets what arsehole behaviour.", ">\n\nI got the impression that Wonka had pretty elaborate plans for the kids, and selected them specifically to teach them lessons?", ">\n\nExactly. He chose Charlie, it was just the final test.", ">\n\nIn the gene wilder version, the candy store salesman admits he was hiding Wonka bars while they were auctioning for extreme prices. Why would a man in the business of selling candy for profit do that? Then, it's not until charlie says he wants to buy something for his grandfather that the candy seller chooses the type of bar for him, and that bar has the golden ticket. \nHe knew he had it, and was intentionally holding it for somebody who wasn't buying for themselves.", ">\n\nCharlie & the chocolate factory Lore", ">\n\nReminds me of how in Boruto, the main ladies of Naruto took a collective pregnancy pact to birth children in the same year.", ">\n\nWhat the fuck", ">\n\nThat's not literally what happened.\nThe naruto cast just had children in the same class at the start of boruto. Which makes kind of sense because Naruto ends with a giant war and those make people have children historically but it's also obviously to have a story in which all the original characters are involved through their children.\nBut it's also so obviously contrived that people joke they all made a pact to get pregnant at the same time because otherwise it's too convenient that they all have children at close to the same age.", ">\n\nThe kids of Boruto are literal baby boomers", ">\n\nThe book is set in 1960s England… What else would they speak?", ">\n\nAre you implying minorities didn't exist back in the 60s? Especially after the war?", ">\n\nNo, they're implying that in a book written in English and probably set in either England or America, the characters all speaking English is not at all surprising.", ">\n\nYou're completely missing out on OP's point by trying to be a contrarian", ">\n\nNo, I'm pointing out that it's a children's book that was written in English and set in a country where English is by far the most commonly spoken language. So the fact that the main characters are mostly children who speak English is not surprising at all. Disagreeing is not the same as being contrarian.", ">\n\nYou are missing out on OP's point", ">\n\nPlease do tell, o enlightened one! What point am I missing exactly?", ">\n\nOr maybe they just didn’t ship the golden ticket chocolate bars to other countries… \nI doubt there we’re many people living in England who speak no English back in those days", ">\n\nAugustus Gloop was German, though? I mean, maybe he was a German immigrant who moved to England, but I was always under the impression that he lived in Germany based on his and his parents' accents.", ">\n\nAnd I thought Mike was the American. What with all the cowboy gear. Could be from anywhere I guess.", ">\n\nYou are seeking logic in a movie where a piece of gum turns a girl into a blueberry… let that sink in", ">\n\n\"I do say, that song & dance all seemed a bit rehearsed!\" (Best line from the remake.)", ">\n\nTLDW - \nBetween 12% and 24%\nThe range is caused when the definition of “white person/English speaking” is changed", ">\n\nI'll bet when you consider that globalization want a thing in the 1920s and you eliminate basically all of Asia, Africa, and South America considering an American candy company's distribution network. The British kid was from a wealthy family who spent insane amounts of money to find a ticket. \nThe the German kid is the most odd to me. How popular has American chocolate ever been in Germany? I'm guessing that is not very popular and that since his family only seemed relatively well off, a trip to America may have been a prohibitive expense due nothing more than a candy factory tour.\nEdit: TIL that the story took place in England (definitely at the forefront of globalization, even in the 1920s). So, that pretty much destroys the logic of my argument.", ">\n\nKid was also a chubster who inhaled sweets like air.", ">\n\nTo be fair English speaking countries tend to be richer therefore more kids there will buy more chocolate and therefore are more likely to get the tickets (Eg. Veruca buying hundreds of chocolates will give her a higher probability of landing a golden ticket than Charlie who can only afford one). \nBut yeah the fact that they’re children makes it rigged. Like I’m sure a teenager or even an adult would’ve gotten one because they bought chocolates too not just the kids.", ">\n\nWhat's strange is that one of those children wasn't an English speaker in real life and just learned the few lives he had to say in English without actually understanding everything." ]

[ "This is a friendly reminder to read our rules.\nRemember, /r/Showerthoughts is for showerthoughts, not \"thoughts had in the shower!\"\n(For an explanation of what a \"showerthought\" is, please read this page.)\nRule-breaking posts may result in bans.", ">\n\nI mean, one of them was German, and other than that it appeared to be a mix of British and American kids.", ">\n\nExactly. Put some respect on our bilingual king Augustus Gloop’s name OP! 🍫🇩🇪", ">\n\nFun fact! Did you know the actress who played his mother (Save some room for later!) was in a porn right around that time?", ">\n\nI didn't believe you, so I checked. This appears to be true!", ">\n\nI mean Michael Scott tried this and all the tickets went to the same company.", ">\n\nOmg maybe that episode was really just to shine light on the fact that there is a reason that all the tickets wound up going to the same demographic", ">\n\nNot really sure I’d consider Charlie Bucket and Veruca Salt as the same demographic.", ">\n\nPresumably old mate got confused between demographic and age bracket", ">\n\nAge is a demographic btw", ">\n\nOk. In the story, only Augustus Gloop and Mike Teavee are the same age (9), everyone else is a different age.\nBut why is it surprising that the main characters of a Roald Dahl Story are children? That’s kind of the point of all his children’s novels. \nThere is also almost always an element of magic, or at least the unexplained-possibly-paranormal in his books. In the novel, adults around the world searched like crazy for those tickets, but of course Wonka knows children will be the recipients because his factory, and indeed his candies, are made for children, and their imaginations. The tickets themselves were intended for children, never an adult.\nThe real convenience of it all lies in the the book being written for a target audience, and that audience is children… therefore, characters they relate to.", ">\n\nI wasn’t inherently disagreeing with you (I was responding to the person above who assumed you didn’t think age is a demographic), you can narrow the age demographic to whatever you want. I’d consider “children” to be a general age demographic, but if you want to split it up, that’s fair. \nUntil your response, I didn’t think you were referring to their age, but other points of their demographic profile (SES, culture, location, etc).", ">\n\nI’m sorry, I misunderstood! You are right in thinking I wasn’t referring to their age, btw. I agree they all fit an age demographic, but that’s hardly relevant compared to the social statuses Dahl has created for them.", ">\n\nIt's also incredibly convenient that Wonka's creepy-looking henchman was at the right time and place when all of them were discovered. Almost as if they were planted.", ">\n\nWell there was nothing \"incredibly convenient\" about the winners being English speakers. That was about 99% of the UK at the time.", ">\n\nBecause the only place willy wonkas factory shipped to was within the United Kingdoms borders?", ">\n\nExcept in the film (never read the book) it was implied Wonka’s chocolates shipped out all over the world. I mean, Augustus Gloop was Austrian/German.\nBut yeah, the fact that it was all children who got it would be statistically improbable.", ">\n\nMeh, more kids buy candy than adults, and every year there are more kids than adults.", ">\n\nRight, but the candy wasn’t the main prize. You got a lifetime supply of chocolate which could be sold hand over fist, which I’m sure plenty of adults considered in their quest to find the golden tickets. And plus an exclusive tour of the world’s most mysterious and profitable candy company would almost truly be a once in a lifetime event, and you’re telling me some rich celebrity wouldn’t swoop in and offer any one of those children $10mil cash for the golden ticket, just to have the prestige of going to Wonka’s factory? Just doesn’t add up.", ">\n\nTrue", ">\n\nHappy Cake Day, Jan", ">\n\nHappy what?", ">\n\nIt’s your cake day. Hence the little cake icon next to your username.", ">\n\nIt's because the thing was rigged from the start. Willy Wonka had no children of his own, so he was specifically looking for an heir to take over his empire.", ">\n\nAnd a few to murder.", ">\n\nAs you do", ">\n\nAs is tradition", ">\n\nAs You Were - LG", ">\n\nConsidering the children were all horrible can you think of the uproar on what nationality gets what arsehole behaviour.", ">\n\nI got the impression that Wonka had pretty elaborate plans for the kids, and selected them specifically to teach them lessons?", ">\n\nExactly. He chose Charlie, it was just the final test.", ">\n\nIn the gene wilder version, the candy store salesman admits he was hiding Wonka bars while they were auctioning for extreme prices. Why would a man in the business of selling candy for profit do that? Then, it's not until charlie says he wants to buy something for his grandfather that the candy seller chooses the type of bar for him, and that bar has the golden ticket. \nHe knew he had it, and was intentionally holding it for somebody who wasn't buying for themselves.", ">\n\nCharlie & the chocolate factory Lore", ">\n\nReminds me of how in Boruto, the main ladies of Naruto took a collective pregnancy pact to birth children in the same year.", ">\n\nWhat the fuck", ">\n\nThat's not literally what happened.\nThe naruto cast just had children in the same class at the start of boruto. Which makes kind of sense because Naruto ends with a giant war and those make people have children historically but it's also obviously to have a story in which all the original characters are involved through their children.\nBut it's also so obviously contrived that people joke they all made a pact to get pregnant at the same time because otherwise it's too convenient that they all have children at close to the same age.", ">\n\nThe kids of Boruto are literal baby boomers", ">\n\nThe book is set in 1960s England… What else would they speak?", ">\n\nAre you implying minorities didn't exist back in the 60s? Especially after the war?", ">\n\nNo, they're implying that in a book written in English and probably set in either England or America, the characters all speaking English is not at all surprising.", ">\n\nYou're completely missing out on OP's point by trying to be a contrarian", ">\n\nNo, I'm pointing out that it's a children's book that was written in English and set in a country where English is by far the most commonly spoken language. So the fact that the main characters are mostly children who speak English is not surprising at all. Disagreeing is not the same as being contrarian.", ">\n\nYou are missing out on OP's point", ">\n\nPlease do tell, o enlightened one! What point am I missing exactly?", ">\n\nOr maybe they just didn’t ship the golden ticket chocolate bars to other countries… \nI doubt there we’re many people living in England who speak no English back in those days", ">\n\nAugustus Gloop was German, though? I mean, maybe he was a German immigrant who moved to England, but I was always under the impression that he lived in Germany based on his and his parents' accents.", ">\n\nAnd I thought Mike was the American. What with all the cowboy gear. Could be from anywhere I guess.", ">\n\nYou are seeking logic in a movie where a piece of gum turns a girl into a blueberry… let that sink in", ">\n\n\"I do say, that song & dance all seemed a bit rehearsed!\" (Best line from the remake.)", ">\n\nTLDW - \nBetween 12% and 24%\nThe range is caused when the definition of “white person/English speaking” is changed", ">\n\nI'll bet when you consider that globalization want a thing in the 1920s and you eliminate basically all of Asia, Africa, and South America considering an American candy company's distribution network. The British kid was from a wealthy family who spent insane amounts of money to find a ticket. \nThe the German kid is the most odd to me. How popular has American chocolate ever been in Germany? I'm guessing that is not very popular and that since his family only seemed relatively well off, a trip to America may have been a prohibitive expense due nothing more than a candy factory tour.\nEdit: TIL that the story took place in England (definitely at the forefront of globalization, even in the 1920s). So, that pretty much destroys the logic of my argument.", ">\n\nKid was also a chubster who inhaled sweets like air.", ">\n\nTo be fair English speaking countries tend to be richer therefore more kids there will buy more chocolate and therefore are more likely to get the tickets (Eg. Veruca buying hundreds of chocolates will give her a higher probability of landing a golden ticket than Charlie who can only afford one). \nBut yeah the fact that they’re children makes it rigged. Like I’m sure a teenager or even an adult would’ve gotten one because they bought chocolates too not just the kids.", ">\n\nWhat's strange is that one of those children wasn't an English speaker in real life and just learned the few lives he had to say in English without actually understanding everything.", ">\n\nI mean, it's a good way to murder your kids for insurance money and have a good alibi." ]

[ "This is a friendly reminder to read our rules.\nRemember, /r/Showerthoughts is for showerthoughts, not \"thoughts had in the shower!\"\n(For an explanation of what a \"showerthought\" is, please read this page.)\nRule-breaking posts may result in bans.", ">\n\nI mean, one of them was German, and other than that it appeared to be a mix of British and American kids.", ">\n\nExactly. Put some respect on our bilingual king Augustus Gloop’s name OP! 🍫🇩🇪", ">\n\nFun fact! Did you know the actress who played his mother (Save some room for later!) was in a porn right around that time?", ">\n\nI didn't believe you, so I checked. This appears to be true!", ">\n\nI mean Michael Scott tried this and all the tickets went to the same company.", ">\n\nOmg maybe that episode was really just to shine light on the fact that there is a reason that all the tickets wound up going to the same demographic", ">\n\nNot really sure I’d consider Charlie Bucket and Veruca Salt as the same demographic.", ">\n\nPresumably old mate got confused between demographic and age bracket", ">\n\nAge is a demographic btw", ">\n\nOk. In the story, only Augustus Gloop and Mike Teavee are the same age (9), everyone else is a different age.\nBut why is it surprising that the main characters of a Roald Dahl Story are children? That’s kind of the point of all his children’s novels. \nThere is also almost always an element of magic, or at least the unexplained-possibly-paranormal in his books. In the novel, adults around the world searched like crazy for those tickets, but of course Wonka knows children will be the recipients because his factory, and indeed his candies, are made for children, and their imaginations. The tickets themselves were intended for children, never an adult.\nThe real convenience of it all lies in the the book being written for a target audience, and that audience is children… therefore, characters they relate to.", ">\n\nI wasn’t inherently disagreeing with you (I was responding to the person above who assumed you didn’t think age is a demographic), you can narrow the age demographic to whatever you want. I’d consider “children” to be a general age demographic, but if you want to split it up, that’s fair. \nUntil your response, I didn’t think you were referring to their age, but other points of their demographic profile (SES, culture, location, etc).", ">\n\nI’m sorry, I misunderstood! You are right in thinking I wasn’t referring to their age, btw. I agree they all fit an age demographic, but that’s hardly relevant compared to the social statuses Dahl has created for them.", ">\n\nIt's also incredibly convenient that Wonka's creepy-looking henchman was at the right time and place when all of them were discovered. Almost as if they were planted.", ">\n\nWell there was nothing \"incredibly convenient\" about the winners being English speakers. That was about 99% of the UK at the time.", ">\n\nBecause the only place willy wonkas factory shipped to was within the United Kingdoms borders?", ">\n\nExcept in the film (never read the book) it was implied Wonka’s chocolates shipped out all over the world. I mean, Augustus Gloop was Austrian/German.\nBut yeah, the fact that it was all children who got it would be statistically improbable.", ">\n\nMeh, more kids buy candy than adults, and every year there are more kids than adults.", ">\n\nRight, but the candy wasn’t the main prize. You got a lifetime supply of chocolate which could be sold hand over fist, which I’m sure plenty of adults considered in their quest to find the golden tickets. And plus an exclusive tour of the world’s most mysterious and profitable candy company would almost truly be a once in a lifetime event, and you’re telling me some rich celebrity wouldn’t swoop in and offer any one of those children $10mil cash for the golden ticket, just to have the prestige of going to Wonka’s factory? Just doesn’t add up.", ">\n\nTrue", ">\n\nHappy Cake Day, Jan", ">\n\nHappy what?", ">\n\nIt’s your cake day. Hence the little cake icon next to your username.", ">\n\nIt's because the thing was rigged from the start. Willy Wonka had no children of his own, so he was specifically looking for an heir to take over his empire.", ">\n\nAnd a few to murder.", ">\n\nAs you do", ">\n\nAs is tradition", ">\n\nAs You Were - LG", ">\n\nConsidering the children were all horrible can you think of the uproar on what nationality gets what arsehole behaviour.", ">\n\nI got the impression that Wonka had pretty elaborate plans for the kids, and selected them specifically to teach them lessons?", ">\n\nExactly. He chose Charlie, it was just the final test.", ">\n\nIn the gene wilder version, the candy store salesman admits he was hiding Wonka bars while they were auctioning for extreme prices. Why would a man in the business of selling candy for profit do that? Then, it's not until charlie says he wants to buy something for his grandfather that the candy seller chooses the type of bar for him, and that bar has the golden ticket. \nHe knew he had it, and was intentionally holding it for somebody who wasn't buying for themselves.", ">\n\nCharlie & the chocolate factory Lore", ">\n\nReminds me of how in Boruto, the main ladies of Naruto took a collective pregnancy pact to birth children in the same year.", ">\n\nWhat the fuck", ">\n\nThat's not literally what happened.\nThe naruto cast just had children in the same class at the start of boruto. Which makes kind of sense because Naruto ends with a giant war and those make people have children historically but it's also obviously to have a story in which all the original characters are involved through their children.\nBut it's also so obviously contrived that people joke they all made a pact to get pregnant at the same time because otherwise it's too convenient that they all have children at close to the same age.", ">\n\nThe kids of Boruto are literal baby boomers", ">\n\nThe book is set in 1960s England… What else would they speak?", ">\n\nAre you implying minorities didn't exist back in the 60s? Especially after the war?", ">\n\nNo, they're implying that in a book written in English and probably set in either England or America, the characters all speaking English is not at all surprising.", ">\n\nYou're completely missing out on OP's point by trying to be a contrarian", ">\n\nNo, I'm pointing out that it's a children's book that was written in English and set in a country where English is by far the most commonly spoken language. So the fact that the main characters are mostly children who speak English is not surprising at all. Disagreeing is not the same as being contrarian.", ">\n\nYou are missing out on OP's point", ">\n\nPlease do tell, o enlightened one! What point am I missing exactly?", ">\n\nOr maybe they just didn’t ship the golden ticket chocolate bars to other countries… \nI doubt there we’re many people living in England who speak no English back in those days", ">\n\nAugustus Gloop was German, though? I mean, maybe he was a German immigrant who moved to England, but I was always under the impression that he lived in Germany based on his and his parents' accents.", ">\n\nAnd I thought Mike was the American. What with all the cowboy gear. Could be from anywhere I guess.", ">\n\nYou are seeking logic in a movie where a piece of gum turns a girl into a blueberry… let that sink in", ">\n\n\"I do say, that song & dance all seemed a bit rehearsed!\" (Best line from the remake.)", ">\n\nTLDW - \nBetween 12% and 24%\nThe range is caused when the definition of “white person/English speaking” is changed", ">\n\nI'll bet when you consider that globalization want a thing in the 1920s and you eliminate basically all of Asia, Africa, and South America considering an American candy company's distribution network. The British kid was from a wealthy family who spent insane amounts of money to find a ticket. \nThe the German kid is the most odd to me. How popular has American chocolate ever been in Germany? I'm guessing that is not very popular and that since his family only seemed relatively well off, a trip to America may have been a prohibitive expense due nothing more than a candy factory tour.\nEdit: TIL that the story took place in England (definitely at the forefront of globalization, even in the 1920s). So, that pretty much destroys the logic of my argument.", ">\n\nKid was also a chubster who inhaled sweets like air.", ">\n\nTo be fair English speaking countries tend to be richer therefore more kids there will buy more chocolate and therefore are more likely to get the tickets (Eg. Veruca buying hundreds of chocolates will give her a higher probability of landing a golden ticket than Charlie who can only afford one). \nBut yeah the fact that they’re children makes it rigged. Like I’m sure a teenager or even an adult would’ve gotten one because they bought chocolates too not just the kids.", ">\n\nWhat's strange is that one of those children wasn't an English speaker in real life and just learned the few lives he had to say in English without actually understanding everything.", ">\n\nI mean, it's a good way to murder your kids for insurance money and have a good alibi.", ">\n\nNot that convenient as britan is a white English speaking country it would be weird if it was different is what you meant to say 🤔" ]

[ "This is a friendly reminder to read our rules.\nRemember, /r/Showerthoughts is for showerthoughts, not \"thoughts had in the shower!\"\n(For an explanation of what a \"showerthought\" is, please read this page.)\nRule-breaking posts may result in bans.", ">\n\nI mean, one of them was German, and other than that it appeared to be a mix of British and American kids.", ">\n\nExactly. Put some respect on our bilingual king Augustus Gloop’s name OP! 🍫🇩🇪", ">\n\nFun fact! Did you know the actress who played his mother (Save some room for later!) was in a porn right around that time?", ">\n\nI didn't believe you, so I checked. This appears to be true!", ">\n\nI mean Michael Scott tried this and all the tickets went to the same company.", ">\n\nOmg maybe that episode was really just to shine light on the fact that there is a reason that all the tickets wound up going to the same demographic", ">\n\nNot really sure I’d consider Charlie Bucket and Veruca Salt as the same demographic.", ">\n\nPresumably old mate got confused between demographic and age bracket", ">\n\nAge is a demographic btw", ">\n\nOk. In the story, only Augustus Gloop and Mike Teavee are the same age (9), everyone else is a different age.\nBut why is it surprising that the main characters of a Roald Dahl Story are children? That’s kind of the point of all his children’s novels. \nThere is also almost always an element of magic, or at least the unexplained-possibly-paranormal in his books. In the novel, adults around the world searched like crazy for those tickets, but of course Wonka knows children will be the recipients because his factory, and indeed his candies, are made for children, and their imaginations. The tickets themselves were intended for children, never an adult.\nThe real convenience of it all lies in the the book being written for a target audience, and that audience is children… therefore, characters they relate to.", ">\n\nI wasn’t inherently disagreeing with you (I was responding to the person above who assumed you didn’t think age is a demographic), you can narrow the age demographic to whatever you want. I’d consider “children” to be a general age demographic, but if you want to split it up, that’s fair. \nUntil your response, I didn’t think you were referring to their age, but other points of their demographic profile (SES, culture, location, etc).", ">\n\nI’m sorry, I misunderstood! You are right in thinking I wasn’t referring to their age, btw. I agree they all fit an age demographic, but that’s hardly relevant compared to the social statuses Dahl has created for them.", ">\n\nIt's also incredibly convenient that Wonka's creepy-looking henchman was at the right time and place when all of them were discovered. Almost as if they were planted.", ">\n\nWell there was nothing \"incredibly convenient\" about the winners being English speakers. That was about 99% of the UK at the time.", ">\n\nBecause the only place willy wonkas factory shipped to was within the United Kingdoms borders?", ">\n\nExcept in the film (never read the book) it was implied Wonka’s chocolates shipped out all over the world. I mean, Augustus Gloop was Austrian/German.\nBut yeah, the fact that it was all children who got it would be statistically improbable.", ">\n\nMeh, more kids buy candy than adults, and every year there are more kids than adults.", ">\n\nRight, but the candy wasn’t the main prize. You got a lifetime supply of chocolate which could be sold hand over fist, which I’m sure plenty of adults considered in their quest to find the golden tickets. And plus an exclusive tour of the world’s most mysterious and profitable candy company would almost truly be a once in a lifetime event, and you’re telling me some rich celebrity wouldn’t swoop in and offer any one of those children $10mil cash for the golden ticket, just to have the prestige of going to Wonka’s factory? Just doesn’t add up.", ">\n\nTrue", ">\n\nHappy Cake Day, Jan", ">\n\nHappy what?", ">\n\nIt’s your cake day. Hence the little cake icon next to your username.", ">\n\nIt's because the thing was rigged from the start. Willy Wonka had no children of his own, so he was specifically looking for an heir to take over his empire.", ">\n\nAnd a few to murder.", ">\n\nAs you do", ">\n\nAs is tradition", ">\n\nAs You Were - LG", ">\n\nConsidering the children were all horrible can you think of the uproar on what nationality gets what arsehole behaviour.", ">\n\nI got the impression that Wonka had pretty elaborate plans for the kids, and selected them specifically to teach them lessons?", ">\n\nExactly. He chose Charlie, it was just the final test.", ">\n\nIn the gene wilder version, the candy store salesman admits he was hiding Wonka bars while they were auctioning for extreme prices. Why would a man in the business of selling candy for profit do that? Then, it's not until charlie says he wants to buy something for his grandfather that the candy seller chooses the type of bar for him, and that bar has the golden ticket. \nHe knew he had it, and was intentionally holding it for somebody who wasn't buying for themselves.", ">\n\nCharlie & the chocolate factory Lore", ">\n\nReminds me of how in Boruto, the main ladies of Naruto took a collective pregnancy pact to birth children in the same year.", ">\n\nWhat the fuck", ">\n\nThat's not literally what happened.\nThe naruto cast just had children in the same class at the start of boruto. Which makes kind of sense because Naruto ends with a giant war and those make people have children historically but it's also obviously to have a story in which all the original characters are involved through their children.\nBut it's also so obviously contrived that people joke they all made a pact to get pregnant at the same time because otherwise it's too convenient that they all have children at close to the same age.", ">\n\nThe kids of Boruto are literal baby boomers", ">\n\nThe book is set in 1960s England… What else would they speak?", ">\n\nAre you implying minorities didn't exist back in the 60s? Especially after the war?", ">\n\nNo, they're implying that in a book written in English and probably set in either England or America, the characters all speaking English is not at all surprising.", ">\n\nYou're completely missing out on OP's point by trying to be a contrarian", ">\n\nNo, I'm pointing out that it's a children's book that was written in English and set in a country where English is by far the most commonly spoken language. So the fact that the main characters are mostly children who speak English is not surprising at all. Disagreeing is not the same as being contrarian.", ">\n\nYou are missing out on OP's point", ">\n\nPlease do tell, o enlightened one! What point am I missing exactly?", ">\n\nOr maybe they just didn’t ship the golden ticket chocolate bars to other countries… \nI doubt there we’re many people living in England who speak no English back in those days", ">\n\nAugustus Gloop was German, though? I mean, maybe he was a German immigrant who moved to England, but I was always under the impression that he lived in Germany based on his and his parents' accents.", ">\n\nAnd I thought Mike was the American. What with all the cowboy gear. Could be from anywhere I guess.", ">\n\nYou are seeking logic in a movie where a piece of gum turns a girl into a blueberry… let that sink in", ">\n\n\"I do say, that song & dance all seemed a bit rehearsed!\" (Best line from the remake.)", ">\n\nTLDW - \nBetween 12% and 24%\nThe range is caused when the definition of “white person/English speaking” is changed", ">\n\nI'll bet when you consider that globalization want a thing in the 1920s and you eliminate basically all of Asia, Africa, and South America considering an American candy company's distribution network. The British kid was from a wealthy family who spent insane amounts of money to find a ticket. \nThe the German kid is the most odd to me. How popular has American chocolate ever been in Germany? I'm guessing that is not very popular and that since his family only seemed relatively well off, a trip to America may have been a prohibitive expense due nothing more than a candy factory tour.\nEdit: TIL that the story took place in England (definitely at the forefront of globalization, even in the 1920s). So, that pretty much destroys the logic of my argument.", ">\n\nKid was also a chubster who inhaled sweets like air.", ">\n\nTo be fair English speaking countries tend to be richer therefore more kids there will buy more chocolate and therefore are more likely to get the tickets (Eg. Veruca buying hundreds of chocolates will give her a higher probability of landing a golden ticket than Charlie who can only afford one). \nBut yeah the fact that they’re children makes it rigged. Like I’m sure a teenager or even an adult would’ve gotten one because they bought chocolates too not just the kids.", ">\n\nWhat's strange is that one of those children wasn't an English speaker in real life and just learned the few lives he had to say in English without actually understanding everything.", ">\n\nI mean, it's a good way to murder your kids for insurance money and have a good alibi.", ">\n\nNot that convenient as britan is a white English speaking country it would be weird if it was different is what you meant to say 🤔", ">\n\nGrandpa Joe didn't get out of bed for 20 years. He let everyone take care of him. He decided he could walk again to see Wankas chocolate factory." ]

[ "This is a friendly reminder to read our rules.\nRemember, /r/Showerthoughts is for showerthoughts, not \"thoughts had in the shower!\"\n(For an explanation of what a \"showerthought\" is, please read this page.)\nRule-breaking posts may result in bans.", ">\n\nI mean, one of them was German, and other than that it appeared to be a mix of British and American kids.", ">\n\nExactly. Put some respect on our bilingual king Augustus Gloop’s name OP! 🍫🇩🇪", ">\n\nFun fact! Did you know the actress who played his mother (Save some room for later!) was in a porn right around that time?", ">\n\nI didn't believe you, so I checked. This appears to be true!", ">\n\nI mean Michael Scott tried this and all the tickets went to the same company.", ">\n\nOmg maybe that episode was really just to shine light on the fact that there is a reason that all the tickets wound up going to the same demographic", ">\n\nNot really sure I’d consider Charlie Bucket and Veruca Salt as the same demographic.", ">\n\nPresumably old mate got confused between demographic and age bracket", ">\n\nAge is a demographic btw", ">\n\nOk. In the story, only Augustus Gloop and Mike Teavee are the same age (9), everyone else is a different age.\nBut why is it surprising that the main characters of a Roald Dahl Story are children? That’s kind of the point of all his children’s novels. \nThere is also almost always an element of magic, or at least the unexplained-possibly-paranormal in his books. In the novel, adults around the world searched like crazy for those tickets, but of course Wonka knows children will be the recipients because his factory, and indeed his candies, are made for children, and their imaginations. The tickets themselves were intended for children, never an adult.\nThe real convenience of it all lies in the the book being written for a target audience, and that audience is children… therefore, characters they relate to.", ">\n\nI wasn’t inherently disagreeing with you (I was responding to the person above who assumed you didn’t think age is a demographic), you can narrow the age demographic to whatever you want. I’d consider “children” to be a general age demographic, but if you want to split it up, that’s fair. \nUntil your response, I didn’t think you were referring to their age, but other points of their demographic profile (SES, culture, location, etc).", ">\n\nI’m sorry, I misunderstood! You are right in thinking I wasn’t referring to their age, btw. I agree they all fit an age demographic, but that’s hardly relevant compared to the social statuses Dahl has created for them.", ">\n\nIt's also incredibly convenient that Wonka's creepy-looking henchman was at the right time and place when all of them were discovered. Almost as if they were planted.", ">\n\nWell there was nothing \"incredibly convenient\" about the winners being English speakers. That was about 99% of the UK at the time.", ">\n\nBecause the only place willy wonkas factory shipped to was within the United Kingdoms borders?", ">\n\nExcept in the film (never read the book) it was implied Wonka’s chocolates shipped out all over the world. I mean, Augustus Gloop was Austrian/German.\nBut yeah, the fact that it was all children who got it would be statistically improbable.", ">\n\nMeh, more kids buy candy than adults, and every year there are more kids than adults.", ">\n\nRight, but the candy wasn’t the main prize. You got a lifetime supply of chocolate which could be sold hand over fist, which I’m sure plenty of adults considered in their quest to find the golden tickets. And plus an exclusive tour of the world’s most mysterious and profitable candy company would almost truly be a once in a lifetime event, and you’re telling me some rich celebrity wouldn’t swoop in and offer any one of those children $10mil cash for the golden ticket, just to have the prestige of going to Wonka’s factory? Just doesn’t add up.", ">\n\nTrue", ">\n\nHappy Cake Day, Jan", ">\n\nHappy what?", ">\n\nIt’s your cake day. Hence the little cake icon next to your username.", ">\n\nIt's because the thing was rigged from the start. Willy Wonka had no children of his own, so he was specifically looking for an heir to take over his empire.", ">\n\nAnd a few to murder.", ">\n\nAs you do", ">\n\nAs is tradition", ">\n\nAs You Were - LG", ">\n\nConsidering the children were all horrible can you think of the uproar on what nationality gets what arsehole behaviour.", ">\n\nI got the impression that Wonka had pretty elaborate plans for the kids, and selected them specifically to teach them lessons?", ">\n\nExactly. He chose Charlie, it was just the final test.", ">\n\nIn the gene wilder version, the candy store salesman admits he was hiding Wonka bars while they were auctioning for extreme prices. Why would a man in the business of selling candy for profit do that? Then, it's not until charlie says he wants to buy something for his grandfather that the candy seller chooses the type of bar for him, and that bar has the golden ticket. \nHe knew he had it, and was intentionally holding it for somebody who wasn't buying for themselves.", ">\n\nCharlie & the chocolate factory Lore", ">\n\nReminds me of how in Boruto, the main ladies of Naruto took a collective pregnancy pact to birth children in the same year.", ">\n\nWhat the fuck", ">\n\nThat's not literally what happened.\nThe naruto cast just had children in the same class at the start of boruto. Which makes kind of sense because Naruto ends with a giant war and those make people have children historically but it's also obviously to have a story in which all the original characters are involved through their children.\nBut it's also so obviously contrived that people joke they all made a pact to get pregnant at the same time because otherwise it's too convenient that they all have children at close to the same age.", ">\n\nThe kids of Boruto are literal baby boomers", ">\n\nThe book is set in 1960s England… What else would they speak?", ">\n\nAre you implying minorities didn't exist back in the 60s? Especially after the war?", ">\n\nNo, they're implying that in a book written in English and probably set in either England or America, the characters all speaking English is not at all surprising.", ">\n\nYou're completely missing out on OP's point by trying to be a contrarian", ">\n\nNo, I'm pointing out that it's a children's book that was written in English and set in a country where English is by far the most commonly spoken language. So the fact that the main characters are mostly children who speak English is not surprising at all. Disagreeing is not the same as being contrarian.", ">\n\nYou are missing out on OP's point", ">\n\nPlease do tell, o enlightened one! What point am I missing exactly?", ">\n\nOr maybe they just didn’t ship the golden ticket chocolate bars to other countries… \nI doubt there we’re many people living in England who speak no English back in those days", ">\n\nAugustus Gloop was German, though? I mean, maybe he was a German immigrant who moved to England, but I was always under the impression that he lived in Germany based on his and his parents' accents.", ">\n\nAnd I thought Mike was the American. What with all the cowboy gear. Could be from anywhere I guess.", ">\n\nYou are seeking logic in a movie where a piece of gum turns a girl into a blueberry… let that sink in", ">\n\n\"I do say, that song & dance all seemed a bit rehearsed!\" (Best line from the remake.)", ">\n\nTLDW - \nBetween 12% and 24%\nThe range is caused when the definition of “white person/English speaking” is changed", ">\n\nI'll bet when you consider that globalization want a thing in the 1920s and you eliminate basically all of Asia, Africa, and South America considering an American candy company's distribution network. The British kid was from a wealthy family who spent insane amounts of money to find a ticket. \nThe the German kid is the most odd to me. How popular has American chocolate ever been in Germany? I'm guessing that is not very popular and that since his family only seemed relatively well off, a trip to America may have been a prohibitive expense due nothing more than a candy factory tour.\nEdit: TIL that the story took place in England (definitely at the forefront of globalization, even in the 1920s). So, that pretty much destroys the logic of my argument.", ">\n\nKid was also a chubster who inhaled sweets like air.", ">\n\nTo be fair English speaking countries tend to be richer therefore more kids there will buy more chocolate and therefore are more likely to get the tickets (Eg. Veruca buying hundreds of chocolates will give her a higher probability of landing a golden ticket than Charlie who can only afford one). \nBut yeah the fact that they’re children makes it rigged. Like I’m sure a teenager or even an adult would’ve gotten one because they bought chocolates too not just the kids.", ">\n\nWhat's strange is that one of those children wasn't an English speaker in real life and just learned the few lives he had to say in English without actually understanding everything.", ">\n\nI mean, it's a good way to murder your kids for insurance money and have a good alibi.", ">\n\nNot that convenient as britan is a white English speaking country it would be weird if it was different is what you meant to say 🤔", ">\n\nGrandpa Joe didn't get out of bed for 20 years. He let everyone take care of him. He decided he could walk again to see Wankas chocolate factory.", ">\n\nI still remember:\nteacher \"And all they had to eat every day was spinach\"\ngirl sitting on floor \"But I dont like spinach\"\nteacher looks down from book \"Then you would die.\"\nclass shocked picachu face\nme, in the back, cant hold back the laughter\nkid next to me looks over, What's your problem? written on his fucking kid face\ni cant speak... only laugh/cry" ]

[ "This is a friendly reminder to read our rules.\nRemember, /r/Showerthoughts is for showerthoughts, not \"thoughts had in the shower!\"\n(For an explanation of what a \"showerthought\" is, please read this page.)\nRule-breaking posts may result in bans.", ">\n\nI mean, one of them was German, and other than that it appeared to be a mix of British and American kids.", ">\n\nExactly. Put some respect on our bilingual king Augustus Gloop’s name OP! 🍫🇩🇪", ">\n\nFun fact! Did you know the actress who played his mother (Save some room for later!) was in a porn right around that time?", ">\n\nI didn't believe you, so I checked. This appears to be true!", ">\n\nI mean Michael Scott tried this and all the tickets went to the same company.", ">\n\nOmg maybe that episode was really just to shine light on the fact that there is a reason that all the tickets wound up going to the same demographic", ">\n\nNot really sure I’d consider Charlie Bucket and Veruca Salt as the same demographic.", ">\n\nPresumably old mate got confused between demographic and age bracket", ">\n\nAge is a demographic btw", ">\n\nOk. In the story, only Augustus Gloop and Mike Teavee are the same age (9), everyone else is a different age.\nBut why is it surprising that the main characters of a Roald Dahl Story are children? That’s kind of the point of all his children’s novels. \nThere is also almost always an element of magic, or at least the unexplained-possibly-paranormal in his books. In the novel, adults around the world searched like crazy for those tickets, but of course Wonka knows children will be the recipients because his factory, and indeed his candies, are made for children, and their imaginations. The tickets themselves were intended for children, never an adult.\nThe real convenience of it all lies in the the book being written for a target audience, and that audience is children… therefore, characters they relate to.", ">\n\nI wasn’t inherently disagreeing with you (I was responding to the person above who assumed you didn’t think age is a demographic), you can narrow the age demographic to whatever you want. I’d consider “children” to be a general age demographic, but if you want to split it up, that’s fair. \nUntil your response, I didn’t think you were referring to their age, but other points of their demographic profile (SES, culture, location, etc).", ">\n\nI’m sorry, I misunderstood! You are right in thinking I wasn’t referring to their age, btw. I agree they all fit an age demographic, but that’s hardly relevant compared to the social statuses Dahl has created for them.", ">\n\nIt's also incredibly convenient that Wonka's creepy-looking henchman was at the right time and place when all of them were discovered. Almost as if they were planted.", ">\n\nWell there was nothing \"incredibly convenient\" about the winners being English speakers. That was about 99% of the UK at the time.", ">\n\nBecause the only place willy wonkas factory shipped to was within the United Kingdoms borders?", ">\n\nExcept in the film (never read the book) it was implied Wonka’s chocolates shipped out all over the world. I mean, Augustus Gloop was Austrian/German.\nBut yeah, the fact that it was all children who got it would be statistically improbable.", ">\n\nMeh, more kids buy candy than adults, and every year there are more kids than adults.", ">\n\nRight, but the candy wasn’t the main prize. You got a lifetime supply of chocolate which could be sold hand over fist, which I’m sure plenty of adults considered in their quest to find the golden tickets. And plus an exclusive tour of the world’s most mysterious and profitable candy company would almost truly be a once in a lifetime event, and you’re telling me some rich celebrity wouldn’t swoop in and offer any one of those children $10mil cash for the golden ticket, just to have the prestige of going to Wonka’s factory? Just doesn’t add up.", ">\n\nTrue", ">\n\nHappy Cake Day, Jan", ">\n\nHappy what?", ">\n\nIt’s your cake day. Hence the little cake icon next to your username.", ">\n\nIt's because the thing was rigged from the start. Willy Wonka had no children of his own, so he was specifically looking for an heir to take over his empire.", ">\n\nAnd a few to murder.", ">\n\nAs you do", ">\n\nAs is tradition", ">\n\nAs You Were - LG", ">\n\nConsidering the children were all horrible can you think of the uproar on what nationality gets what arsehole behaviour.", ">\n\nI got the impression that Wonka had pretty elaborate plans for the kids, and selected them specifically to teach them lessons?", ">\n\nExactly. He chose Charlie, it was just the final test.", ">\n\nIn the gene wilder version, the candy store salesman admits he was hiding Wonka bars while they were auctioning for extreme prices. Why would a man in the business of selling candy for profit do that? Then, it's not until charlie says he wants to buy something for his grandfather that the candy seller chooses the type of bar for him, and that bar has the golden ticket. \nHe knew he had it, and was intentionally holding it for somebody who wasn't buying for themselves.", ">\n\nCharlie & the chocolate factory Lore", ">\n\nReminds me of how in Boruto, the main ladies of Naruto took a collective pregnancy pact to birth children in the same year.", ">\n\nWhat the fuck", ">\n\nThat's not literally what happened.\nThe naruto cast just had children in the same class at the start of boruto. Which makes kind of sense because Naruto ends with a giant war and those make people have children historically but it's also obviously to have a story in which all the original characters are involved through their children.\nBut it's also so obviously contrived that people joke they all made a pact to get pregnant at the same time because otherwise it's too convenient that they all have children at close to the same age.", ">\n\nThe kids of Boruto are literal baby boomers", ">\n\nThe book is set in 1960s England… What else would they speak?", ">\n\nAre you implying minorities didn't exist back in the 60s? Especially after the war?", ">\n\nNo, they're implying that in a book written in English and probably set in either England or America, the characters all speaking English is not at all surprising.", ">\n\nYou're completely missing out on OP's point by trying to be a contrarian", ">\n\nNo, I'm pointing out that it's a children's book that was written in English and set in a country where English is by far the most commonly spoken language. So the fact that the main characters are mostly children who speak English is not surprising at all. Disagreeing is not the same as being contrarian.", ">\n\nYou are missing out on OP's point", ">\n\nPlease do tell, o enlightened one! What point am I missing exactly?", ">\n\nOr maybe they just didn’t ship the golden ticket chocolate bars to other countries… \nI doubt there we’re many people living in England who speak no English back in those days", ">\n\nAugustus Gloop was German, though? I mean, maybe he was a German immigrant who moved to England, but I was always under the impression that he lived in Germany based on his and his parents' accents.", ">\n\nAnd I thought Mike was the American. What with all the cowboy gear. Could be from anywhere I guess.", ">\n\nYou are seeking logic in a movie where a piece of gum turns a girl into a blueberry… let that sink in", ">\n\n\"I do say, that song & dance all seemed a bit rehearsed!\" (Best line from the remake.)", ">\n\nTLDW - \nBetween 12% and 24%\nThe range is caused when the definition of “white person/English speaking” is changed", ">\n\nI'll bet when you consider that globalization want a thing in the 1920s and you eliminate basically all of Asia, Africa, and South America considering an American candy company's distribution network. The British kid was from a wealthy family who spent insane amounts of money to find a ticket. \nThe the German kid is the most odd to me. How popular has American chocolate ever been in Germany? I'm guessing that is not very popular and that since his family only seemed relatively well off, a trip to America may have been a prohibitive expense due nothing more than a candy factory tour.\nEdit: TIL that the story took place in England (definitely at the forefront of globalization, even in the 1920s). So, that pretty much destroys the logic of my argument.", ">\n\nKid was also a chubster who inhaled sweets like air.", ">\n\nTo be fair English speaking countries tend to be richer therefore more kids there will buy more chocolate and therefore are more likely to get the tickets (Eg. Veruca buying hundreds of chocolates will give her a higher probability of landing a golden ticket than Charlie who can only afford one). \nBut yeah the fact that they’re children makes it rigged. Like I’m sure a teenager or even an adult would’ve gotten one because they bought chocolates too not just the kids.", ">\n\nWhat's strange is that one of those children wasn't an English speaker in real life and just learned the few lives he had to say in English without actually understanding everything.", ">\n\nI mean, it's a good way to murder your kids for insurance money and have a good alibi.", ">\n\nNot that convenient as britan is a white English speaking country it would be weird if it was different is what you meant to say 🤔", ">\n\nGrandpa Joe didn't get out of bed for 20 years. He let everyone take care of him. He decided he could walk again to see Wankas chocolate factory.", ">\n\nI still remember:\nteacher \"And all they had to eat every day was spinach\"\ngirl sitting on floor \"But I dont like spinach\"\nteacher looks down from book \"Then you would die.\"\nclass shocked picachu face\nme, in the back, cant hold back the laughter\nkid next to me looks over, What's your problem? written on his fucking kid face\ni cant speak... only laugh/cry", ">\n\nDidn't the film theory guy on YT calculate the odds of that happening?" ]

[ "This is a friendly reminder to read our rules.\nRemember, /r/Showerthoughts is for showerthoughts, not \"thoughts had in the shower!\"\n(For an explanation of what a \"showerthought\" is, please read this page.)\nRule-breaking posts may result in bans.", ">\n\nI mean, one of them was German, and other than that it appeared to be a mix of British and American kids.", ">\n\nExactly. Put some respect on our bilingual king Augustus Gloop’s name OP! 🍫🇩🇪", ">\n\nFun fact! Did you know the actress who played his mother (Save some room for later!) was in a porn right around that time?", ">\n\nI didn't believe you, so I checked. This appears to be true!", ">\n\nI mean Michael Scott tried this and all the tickets went to the same company.", ">\n\nOmg maybe that episode was really just to shine light on the fact that there is a reason that all the tickets wound up going to the same demographic", ">\n\nNot really sure I’d consider Charlie Bucket and Veruca Salt as the same demographic.", ">\n\nPresumably old mate got confused between demographic and age bracket", ">\n\nAge is a demographic btw", ">\n\nOk. In the story, only Augustus Gloop and Mike Teavee are the same age (9), everyone else is a different age.\nBut why is it surprising that the main characters of a Roald Dahl Story are children? That’s kind of the point of all his children’s novels. \nThere is also almost always an element of magic, or at least the unexplained-possibly-paranormal in his books. In the novel, adults around the world searched like crazy for those tickets, but of course Wonka knows children will be the recipients because his factory, and indeed his candies, are made for children, and their imaginations. The tickets themselves were intended for children, never an adult.\nThe real convenience of it all lies in the the book being written for a target audience, and that audience is children… therefore, characters they relate to.", ">\n\nI wasn’t inherently disagreeing with you (I was responding to the person above who assumed you didn’t think age is a demographic), you can narrow the age demographic to whatever you want. I’d consider “children” to be a general age demographic, but if you want to split it up, that’s fair. \nUntil your response, I didn’t think you were referring to their age, but other points of their demographic profile (SES, culture, location, etc).", ">\n\nI’m sorry, I misunderstood! You are right in thinking I wasn’t referring to their age, btw. I agree they all fit an age demographic, but that’s hardly relevant compared to the social statuses Dahl has created for them.", ">\n\nIt's also incredibly convenient that Wonka's creepy-looking henchman was at the right time and place when all of them were discovered. Almost as if they were planted.", ">\n\nWell there was nothing \"incredibly convenient\" about the winners being English speakers. That was about 99% of the UK at the time.", ">\n\nBecause the only place willy wonkas factory shipped to was within the United Kingdoms borders?", ">\n\nExcept in the film (never read the book) it was implied Wonka’s chocolates shipped out all over the world. I mean, Augustus Gloop was Austrian/German.\nBut yeah, the fact that it was all children who got it would be statistically improbable.", ">\n\nMeh, more kids buy candy than adults, and every year there are more kids than adults.", ">\n\nRight, but the candy wasn’t the main prize. You got a lifetime supply of chocolate which could be sold hand over fist, which I’m sure plenty of adults considered in their quest to find the golden tickets. And plus an exclusive tour of the world’s most mysterious and profitable candy company would almost truly be a once in a lifetime event, and you’re telling me some rich celebrity wouldn’t swoop in and offer any one of those children $10mil cash for the golden ticket, just to have the prestige of going to Wonka’s factory? Just doesn’t add up.", ">\n\nTrue", ">\n\nHappy Cake Day, Jan", ">\n\nHappy what?", ">\n\nIt’s your cake day. Hence the little cake icon next to your username.", ">\n\nIt's because the thing was rigged from the start. Willy Wonka had no children of his own, so he was specifically looking for an heir to take over his empire.", ">\n\nAnd a few to murder.", ">\n\nAs you do", ">\n\nAs is tradition", ">\n\nAs You Were - LG", ">\n\nConsidering the children were all horrible can you think of the uproar on what nationality gets what arsehole behaviour.", ">\n\nI got the impression that Wonka had pretty elaborate plans for the kids, and selected them specifically to teach them lessons?", ">\n\nExactly. He chose Charlie, it was just the final test.", ">\n\nIn the gene wilder version, the candy store salesman admits he was hiding Wonka bars while they were auctioning for extreme prices. Why would a man in the business of selling candy for profit do that? Then, it's not until charlie says he wants to buy something for his grandfather that the candy seller chooses the type of bar for him, and that bar has the golden ticket. \nHe knew he had it, and was intentionally holding it for somebody who wasn't buying for themselves.", ">\n\nCharlie & the chocolate factory Lore", ">\n\nReminds me of how in Boruto, the main ladies of Naruto took a collective pregnancy pact to birth children in the same year.", ">\n\nWhat the fuck", ">\n\nThat's not literally what happened.\nThe naruto cast just had children in the same class at the start of boruto. Which makes kind of sense because Naruto ends with a giant war and those make people have children historically but it's also obviously to have a story in which all the original characters are involved through their children.\nBut it's also so obviously contrived that people joke they all made a pact to get pregnant at the same time because otherwise it's too convenient that they all have children at close to the same age.", ">\n\nThe kids of Boruto are literal baby boomers", ">\n\nThe book is set in 1960s England… What else would they speak?", ">\n\nAre you implying minorities didn't exist back in the 60s? Especially after the war?", ">\n\nNo, they're implying that in a book written in English and probably set in either England or America, the characters all speaking English is not at all surprising.", ">\n\nYou're completely missing out on OP's point by trying to be a contrarian", ">\n\nNo, I'm pointing out that it's a children's book that was written in English and set in a country where English is by far the most commonly spoken language. So the fact that the main characters are mostly children who speak English is not surprising at all. Disagreeing is not the same as being contrarian.", ">\n\nYou are missing out on OP's point", ">\n\nPlease do tell, o enlightened one! What point am I missing exactly?", ">\n\nOr maybe they just didn’t ship the golden ticket chocolate bars to other countries… \nI doubt there we’re many people living in England who speak no English back in those days", ">\n\nAugustus Gloop was German, though? I mean, maybe he was a German immigrant who moved to England, but I was always under the impression that he lived in Germany based on his and his parents' accents.", ">\n\nAnd I thought Mike was the American. What with all the cowboy gear. Could be from anywhere I guess.", ">\n\nYou are seeking logic in a movie where a piece of gum turns a girl into a blueberry… let that sink in", ">\n\n\"I do say, that song & dance all seemed a bit rehearsed!\" (Best line from the remake.)", ">\n\nTLDW - \nBetween 12% and 24%\nThe range is caused when the definition of “white person/English speaking” is changed", ">\n\nI'll bet when you consider that globalization want a thing in the 1920s and you eliminate basically all of Asia, Africa, and South America considering an American candy company's distribution network. The British kid was from a wealthy family who spent insane amounts of money to find a ticket. \nThe the German kid is the most odd to me. How popular has American chocolate ever been in Germany? I'm guessing that is not very popular and that since his family only seemed relatively well off, a trip to America may have been a prohibitive expense due nothing more than a candy factory tour.\nEdit: TIL that the story took place in England (definitely at the forefront of globalization, even in the 1920s). So, that pretty much destroys the logic of my argument.", ">\n\nKid was also a chubster who inhaled sweets like air.", ">\n\nTo be fair English speaking countries tend to be richer therefore more kids there will buy more chocolate and therefore are more likely to get the tickets (Eg. Veruca buying hundreds of chocolates will give her a higher probability of landing a golden ticket than Charlie who can only afford one). \nBut yeah the fact that they’re children makes it rigged. Like I’m sure a teenager or even an adult would’ve gotten one because they bought chocolates too not just the kids.", ">\n\nWhat's strange is that one of those children wasn't an English speaker in real life and just learned the few lives he had to say in English without actually understanding everything.", ">\n\nI mean, it's a good way to murder your kids for insurance money and have a good alibi.", ">\n\nNot that convenient as britan is a white English speaking country it would be weird if it was different is what you meant to say 🤔", ">\n\nGrandpa Joe didn't get out of bed for 20 years. He let everyone take care of him. He decided he could walk again to see Wankas chocolate factory.", ">\n\nI still remember:\nteacher \"And all they had to eat every day was spinach\"\ngirl sitting on floor \"But I dont like spinach\"\nteacher looks down from book \"Then you would die.\"\nclass shocked picachu face\nme, in the back, cant hold back the laughter\nkid next to me looks over, What's your problem? written on his fucking kid face\ni cant speak... only laugh/cry", ">\n\nDidn't the film theory guy on YT calculate the odds of that happening?", ">\n\nAugustus Gloop wasn’t English. He was German. Don’t think he talked English at all." ]

[ "This is a friendly reminder to read our rules.\nRemember, /r/Showerthoughts is for showerthoughts, not \"thoughts had in the shower!\"\n(For an explanation of what a \"showerthought\" is, please read this page.)\nRule-breaking posts may result in bans.", ">\n\nI mean, one of them was German, and other than that it appeared to be a mix of British and American kids.", ">\n\nExactly. Put some respect on our bilingual king Augustus Gloop’s name OP! 🍫🇩🇪", ">\n\nFun fact! Did you know the actress who played his mother (Save some room for later!) was in a porn right around that time?", ">\n\nI didn't believe you, so I checked. This appears to be true!", ">\n\nI mean Michael Scott tried this and all the tickets went to the same company.", ">\n\nOmg maybe that episode was really just to shine light on the fact that there is a reason that all the tickets wound up going to the same demographic", ">\n\nNot really sure I’d consider Charlie Bucket and Veruca Salt as the same demographic.", ">\n\nPresumably old mate got confused between demographic and age bracket", ">\n\nAge is a demographic btw", ">\n\nOk. In the story, only Augustus Gloop and Mike Teavee are the same age (9), everyone else is a different age.\nBut why is it surprising that the main characters of a Roald Dahl Story are children? That’s kind of the point of all his children’s novels. \nThere is also almost always an element of magic, or at least the unexplained-possibly-paranormal in his books. In the novel, adults around the world searched like crazy for those tickets, but of course Wonka knows children will be the recipients because his factory, and indeed his candies, are made for children, and their imaginations. The tickets themselves were intended for children, never an adult.\nThe real convenience of it all lies in the the book being written for a target audience, and that audience is children… therefore, characters they relate to.", ">\n\nI wasn’t inherently disagreeing with you (I was responding to the person above who assumed you didn’t think age is a demographic), you can narrow the age demographic to whatever you want. I’d consider “children” to be a general age demographic, but if you want to split it up, that’s fair. \nUntil your response, I didn’t think you were referring to their age, but other points of their demographic profile (SES, culture, location, etc).", ">\n\nI’m sorry, I misunderstood! You are right in thinking I wasn’t referring to their age, btw. I agree they all fit an age demographic, but that’s hardly relevant compared to the social statuses Dahl has created for them.", ">\n\nIt's also incredibly convenient that Wonka's creepy-looking henchman was at the right time and place when all of them were discovered. Almost as if they were planted.", ">\n\nWell there was nothing \"incredibly convenient\" about the winners being English speakers. That was about 99% of the UK at the time.", ">\n\nBecause the only place willy wonkas factory shipped to was within the United Kingdoms borders?", ">\n\nExcept in the film (never read the book) it was implied Wonka’s chocolates shipped out all over the world. I mean, Augustus Gloop was Austrian/German.\nBut yeah, the fact that it was all children who got it would be statistically improbable.", ">\n\nMeh, more kids buy candy than adults, and every year there are more kids than adults.", ">\n\nRight, but the candy wasn’t the main prize. You got a lifetime supply of chocolate which could be sold hand over fist, which I’m sure plenty of adults considered in their quest to find the golden tickets. And plus an exclusive tour of the world’s most mysterious and profitable candy company would almost truly be a once in a lifetime event, and you’re telling me some rich celebrity wouldn’t swoop in and offer any one of those children $10mil cash for the golden ticket, just to have the prestige of going to Wonka’s factory? Just doesn’t add up.", ">\n\nTrue", ">\n\nHappy Cake Day, Jan", ">\n\nHappy what?", ">\n\nIt’s your cake day. Hence the little cake icon next to your username.", ">\n\nIt's because the thing was rigged from the start. Willy Wonka had no children of his own, so he was specifically looking for an heir to take over his empire.", ">\n\nAnd a few to murder.", ">\n\nAs you do", ">\n\nAs is tradition", ">\n\nAs You Were - LG", ">\n\nConsidering the children were all horrible can you think of the uproar on what nationality gets what arsehole behaviour.", ">\n\nI got the impression that Wonka had pretty elaborate plans for the kids, and selected them specifically to teach them lessons?", ">\n\nExactly. He chose Charlie, it was just the final test.", ">\n\nIn the gene wilder version, the candy store salesman admits he was hiding Wonka bars while they were auctioning for extreme prices. Why would a man in the business of selling candy for profit do that? Then, it's not until charlie says he wants to buy something for his grandfather that the candy seller chooses the type of bar for him, and that bar has the golden ticket. \nHe knew he had it, and was intentionally holding it for somebody who wasn't buying for themselves.", ">\n\nCharlie & the chocolate factory Lore", ">\n\nReminds me of how in Boruto, the main ladies of Naruto took a collective pregnancy pact to birth children in the same year.", ">\n\nWhat the fuck", ">\n\nThat's not literally what happened.\nThe naruto cast just had children in the same class at the start of boruto. Which makes kind of sense because Naruto ends with a giant war and those make people have children historically but it's also obviously to have a story in which all the original characters are involved through their children.\nBut it's also so obviously contrived that people joke they all made a pact to get pregnant at the same time because otherwise it's too convenient that they all have children at close to the same age.", ">\n\nThe kids of Boruto are literal baby boomers", ">\n\nThe book is set in 1960s England… What else would they speak?", ">\n\nAre you implying minorities didn't exist back in the 60s? Especially after the war?", ">\n\nNo, they're implying that in a book written in English and probably set in either England or America, the characters all speaking English is not at all surprising.", ">\n\nYou're completely missing out on OP's point by trying to be a contrarian", ">\n\nNo, I'm pointing out that it's a children's book that was written in English and set in a country where English is by far the most commonly spoken language. So the fact that the main characters are mostly children who speak English is not surprising at all. Disagreeing is not the same as being contrarian.", ">\n\nYou are missing out on OP's point", ">\n\nPlease do tell, o enlightened one! What point am I missing exactly?", ">\n\nOr maybe they just didn’t ship the golden ticket chocolate bars to other countries… \nI doubt there we’re many people living in England who speak no English back in those days", ">\n\nAugustus Gloop was German, though? I mean, maybe he was a German immigrant who moved to England, but I was always under the impression that he lived in Germany based on his and his parents' accents.", ">\n\nAnd I thought Mike was the American. What with all the cowboy gear. Could be from anywhere I guess.", ">\n\nYou are seeking logic in a movie where a piece of gum turns a girl into a blueberry… let that sink in", ">\n\n\"I do say, that song & dance all seemed a bit rehearsed!\" (Best line from the remake.)", ">\n\nTLDW - \nBetween 12% and 24%\nThe range is caused when the definition of “white person/English speaking” is changed", ">\n\nI'll bet when you consider that globalization want a thing in the 1920s and you eliminate basically all of Asia, Africa, and South America considering an American candy company's distribution network. The British kid was from a wealthy family who spent insane amounts of money to find a ticket. \nThe the German kid is the most odd to me. How popular has American chocolate ever been in Germany? I'm guessing that is not very popular and that since his family only seemed relatively well off, a trip to America may have been a prohibitive expense due nothing more than a candy factory tour.\nEdit: TIL that the story took place in England (definitely at the forefront of globalization, even in the 1920s). So, that pretty much destroys the logic of my argument.", ">\n\nKid was also a chubster who inhaled sweets like air.", ">\n\nTo be fair English speaking countries tend to be richer therefore more kids there will buy more chocolate and therefore are more likely to get the tickets (Eg. Veruca buying hundreds of chocolates will give her a higher probability of landing a golden ticket than Charlie who can only afford one). \nBut yeah the fact that they’re children makes it rigged. Like I’m sure a teenager or even an adult would’ve gotten one because they bought chocolates too not just the kids.", ">\n\nWhat's strange is that one of those children wasn't an English speaker in real life and just learned the few lives he had to say in English without actually understanding everything.", ">\n\nI mean, it's a good way to murder your kids for insurance money and have a good alibi.", ">\n\nNot that convenient as britan is a white English speaking country it would be weird if it was different is what you meant to say 🤔", ">\n\nGrandpa Joe didn't get out of bed for 20 years. He let everyone take care of him. He decided he could walk again to see Wankas chocolate factory.", ">\n\nI still remember:\nteacher \"And all they had to eat every day was spinach\"\ngirl sitting on floor \"But I dont like spinach\"\nteacher looks down from book \"Then you would die.\"\nclass shocked picachu face\nme, in the back, cant hold back the laughter\nkid next to me looks over, What's your problem? written on his fucking kid face\ni cant speak... only laugh/cry", ">\n\nDidn't the film theory guy on YT calculate the odds of that happening?", ">\n\nAugustus Gloop wasn’t English. He was German. Don’t think he talked English at all.", ">\n\nIt's as convenient in England during that time period as it would be today if in Mexico they had something, and all the winners spoke Spanish. In other words, it's not suspiciously convenient at all." ]

[ "This is a friendly reminder to read our rules.\nRemember, /r/Showerthoughts is for showerthoughts, not \"thoughts had in the shower!\"\n(For an explanation of what a \"showerthought\" is, please read this page.)\nRule-breaking posts may result in bans.", ">\n\nI mean, one of them was German, and other than that it appeared to be a mix of British and American kids.", ">\n\nExactly. Put some respect on our bilingual king Augustus Gloop’s name OP! 🍫🇩🇪", ">\n\nFun fact! Did you know the actress who played his mother (Save some room for later!) was in a porn right around that time?", ">\n\nI didn't believe you, so I checked. This appears to be true!", ">\n\nI mean Michael Scott tried this and all the tickets went to the same company.", ">\n\nOmg maybe that episode was really just to shine light on the fact that there is a reason that all the tickets wound up going to the same demographic", ">\n\nNot really sure I’d consider Charlie Bucket and Veruca Salt as the same demographic.", ">\n\nPresumably old mate got confused between demographic and age bracket", ">\n\nAge is a demographic btw", ">\n\nOk. In the story, only Augustus Gloop and Mike Teavee are the same age (9), everyone else is a different age.\nBut why is it surprising that the main characters of a Roald Dahl Story are children? That’s kind of the point of all his children’s novels. \nThere is also almost always an element of magic, or at least the unexplained-possibly-paranormal in his books. In the novel, adults around the world searched like crazy for those tickets, but of course Wonka knows children will be the recipients because his factory, and indeed his candies, are made for children, and their imaginations. The tickets themselves were intended for children, never an adult.\nThe real convenience of it all lies in the the book being written for a target audience, and that audience is children… therefore, characters they relate to.", ">\n\nI wasn’t inherently disagreeing with you (I was responding to the person above who assumed you didn’t think age is a demographic), you can narrow the age demographic to whatever you want. I’d consider “children” to be a general age demographic, but if you want to split it up, that’s fair. \nUntil your response, I didn’t think you were referring to their age, but other points of their demographic profile (SES, culture, location, etc).", ">\n\nI’m sorry, I misunderstood! You are right in thinking I wasn’t referring to their age, btw. I agree they all fit an age demographic, but that’s hardly relevant compared to the social statuses Dahl has created for them.", ">\n\nIt's also incredibly convenient that Wonka's creepy-looking henchman was at the right time and place when all of them were discovered. Almost as if they were planted.", ">\n\nWell there was nothing \"incredibly convenient\" about the winners being English speakers. That was about 99% of the UK at the time.", ">\n\nBecause the only place willy wonkas factory shipped to was within the United Kingdoms borders?", ">\n\nExcept in the film (never read the book) it was implied Wonka’s chocolates shipped out all over the world. I mean, Augustus Gloop was Austrian/German.\nBut yeah, the fact that it was all children who got it would be statistically improbable.", ">\n\nMeh, more kids buy candy than adults, and every year there are more kids than adults.", ">\n\nRight, but the candy wasn’t the main prize. You got a lifetime supply of chocolate which could be sold hand over fist, which I’m sure plenty of adults considered in their quest to find the golden tickets. And plus an exclusive tour of the world’s most mysterious and profitable candy company would almost truly be a once in a lifetime event, and you’re telling me some rich celebrity wouldn’t swoop in and offer any one of those children $10mil cash for the golden ticket, just to have the prestige of going to Wonka’s factory? Just doesn’t add up.", ">\n\nTrue", ">\n\nHappy Cake Day, Jan", ">\n\nHappy what?", ">\n\nIt’s your cake day. Hence the little cake icon next to your username.", ">\n\nIt's because the thing was rigged from the start. Willy Wonka had no children of his own, so he was specifically looking for an heir to take over his empire.", ">\n\nAnd a few to murder.", ">\n\nAs you do", ">\n\nAs is tradition", ">\n\nAs You Were - LG", ">\n\nConsidering the children were all horrible can you think of the uproar on what nationality gets what arsehole behaviour.", ">\n\nI got the impression that Wonka had pretty elaborate plans for the kids, and selected them specifically to teach them lessons?", ">\n\nExactly. He chose Charlie, it was just the final test.", ">\n\nIn the gene wilder version, the candy store salesman admits he was hiding Wonka bars while they were auctioning for extreme prices. Why would a man in the business of selling candy for profit do that? Then, it's not until charlie says he wants to buy something for his grandfather that the candy seller chooses the type of bar for him, and that bar has the golden ticket. \nHe knew he had it, and was intentionally holding it for somebody who wasn't buying for themselves.", ">\n\nCharlie & the chocolate factory Lore", ">\n\nReminds me of how in Boruto, the main ladies of Naruto took a collective pregnancy pact to birth children in the same year.", ">\n\nWhat the fuck", ">\n\nThat's not literally what happened.\nThe naruto cast just had children in the same class at the start of boruto. Which makes kind of sense because Naruto ends with a giant war and those make people have children historically but it's also obviously to have a story in which all the original characters are involved through their children.\nBut it's also so obviously contrived that people joke they all made a pact to get pregnant at the same time because otherwise it's too convenient that they all have children at close to the same age.", ">\n\nThe kids of Boruto are literal baby boomers", ">\n\nThe book is set in 1960s England… What else would they speak?", ">\n\nAre you implying minorities didn't exist back in the 60s? Especially after the war?", ">\n\nNo, they're implying that in a book written in English and probably set in either England or America, the characters all speaking English is not at all surprising.", ">\n\nYou're completely missing out on OP's point by trying to be a contrarian", ">\n\nNo, I'm pointing out that it's a children's book that was written in English and set in a country where English is by far the most commonly spoken language. So the fact that the main characters are mostly children who speak English is not surprising at all. Disagreeing is not the same as being contrarian.", ">\n\nYou are missing out on OP's point", ">\n\nPlease do tell, o enlightened one! What point am I missing exactly?", ">\n\nOr maybe they just didn’t ship the golden ticket chocolate bars to other countries… \nI doubt there we’re many people living in England who speak no English back in those days", ">\n\nAugustus Gloop was German, though? I mean, maybe he was a German immigrant who moved to England, but I was always under the impression that he lived in Germany based on his and his parents' accents.", ">\n\nAnd I thought Mike was the American. What with all the cowboy gear. Could be from anywhere I guess.", ">\n\nYou are seeking logic in a movie where a piece of gum turns a girl into a blueberry… let that sink in", ">\n\n\"I do say, that song & dance all seemed a bit rehearsed!\" (Best line from the remake.)", ">\n\nTLDW - \nBetween 12% and 24%\nThe range is caused when the definition of “white person/English speaking” is changed", ">\n\nI'll bet when you consider that globalization want a thing in the 1920s and you eliminate basically all of Asia, Africa, and South America considering an American candy company's distribution network. The British kid was from a wealthy family who spent insane amounts of money to find a ticket. \nThe the German kid is the most odd to me. How popular has American chocolate ever been in Germany? I'm guessing that is not very popular and that since his family only seemed relatively well off, a trip to America may have been a prohibitive expense due nothing more than a candy factory tour.\nEdit: TIL that the story took place in England (definitely at the forefront of globalization, even in the 1920s). So, that pretty much destroys the logic of my argument.", ">\n\nKid was also a chubster who inhaled sweets like air.", ">\n\nTo be fair English speaking countries tend to be richer therefore more kids there will buy more chocolate and therefore are more likely to get the tickets (Eg. Veruca buying hundreds of chocolates will give her a higher probability of landing a golden ticket than Charlie who can only afford one). \nBut yeah the fact that they’re children makes it rigged. Like I’m sure a teenager or even an adult would’ve gotten one because they bought chocolates too not just the kids.", ">\n\nWhat's strange is that one of those children wasn't an English speaker in real life and just learned the few lives he had to say in English without actually understanding everything.", ">\n\nI mean, it's a good way to murder your kids for insurance money and have a good alibi.", ">\n\nNot that convenient as britan is a white English speaking country it would be weird if it was different is what you meant to say 🤔", ">\n\nGrandpa Joe didn't get out of bed for 20 years. He let everyone take care of him. He decided he could walk again to see Wankas chocolate factory.", ">\n\nI still remember:\nteacher \"And all they had to eat every day was spinach\"\ngirl sitting on floor \"But I dont like spinach\"\nteacher looks down from book \"Then you would die.\"\nclass shocked picachu face\nme, in the back, cant hold back the laughter\nkid next to me looks over, What's your problem? written on his fucking kid face\ni cant speak... only laugh/cry", ">\n\nDidn't the film theory guy on YT calculate the odds of that happening?", ">\n\nAugustus Gloop wasn’t English. He was German. Don’t think he talked English at all.", ">\n\nIt's as convenient in England during that time period as it would be today if in Mexico they had something, and all the winners spoke Spanish. In other words, it's not suspiciously convenient at all.", ">\n\nThats all depends on where wonka sells his chocolate bars right?" ]

[ "This is a friendly reminder to read our rules.\nRemember, /r/Showerthoughts is for showerthoughts, not \"thoughts had in the shower!\"\n(For an explanation of what a \"showerthought\" is, please read this page.)\nRule-breaking posts may result in bans.", ">\n\nI mean, one of them was German, and other than that it appeared to be a mix of British and American kids.", ">\n\nExactly. Put some respect on our bilingual king Augustus Gloop’s name OP! 🍫🇩🇪", ">\n\nFun fact! Did you know the actress who played his mother (Save some room for later!) was in a porn right around that time?", ">\n\nI didn't believe you, so I checked. This appears to be true!", ">\n\nI mean Michael Scott tried this and all the tickets went to the same company.", ">\n\nOmg maybe that episode was really just to shine light on the fact that there is a reason that all the tickets wound up going to the same demographic", ">\n\nNot really sure I’d consider Charlie Bucket and Veruca Salt as the same demographic.", ">\n\nPresumably old mate got confused between demographic and age bracket", ">\n\nAge is a demographic btw", ">\n\nOk. In the story, only Augustus Gloop and Mike Teavee are the same age (9), everyone else is a different age.\nBut why is it surprising that the main characters of a Roald Dahl Story are children? That’s kind of the point of all his children’s novels. \nThere is also almost always an element of magic, or at least the unexplained-possibly-paranormal in his books. In the novel, adults around the world searched like crazy for those tickets, but of course Wonka knows children will be the recipients because his factory, and indeed his candies, are made for children, and their imaginations. The tickets themselves were intended for children, never an adult.\nThe real convenience of it all lies in the the book being written for a target audience, and that audience is children… therefore, characters they relate to.", ">\n\nI wasn’t inherently disagreeing with you (I was responding to the person above who assumed you didn’t think age is a demographic), you can narrow the age demographic to whatever you want. I’d consider “children” to be a general age demographic, but if you want to split it up, that’s fair. \nUntil your response, I didn’t think you were referring to their age, but other points of their demographic profile (SES, culture, location, etc).", ">\n\nI’m sorry, I misunderstood! You are right in thinking I wasn’t referring to their age, btw. I agree they all fit an age demographic, but that’s hardly relevant compared to the social statuses Dahl has created for them.", ">\n\nIt's also incredibly convenient that Wonka's creepy-looking henchman was at the right time and place when all of them were discovered. Almost as if they were planted.", ">\n\nWell there was nothing \"incredibly convenient\" about the winners being English speakers. That was about 99% of the UK at the time.", ">\n\nBecause the only place willy wonkas factory shipped to was within the United Kingdoms borders?", ">\n\nExcept in the film (never read the book) it was implied Wonka’s chocolates shipped out all over the world. I mean, Augustus Gloop was Austrian/German.\nBut yeah, the fact that it was all children who got it would be statistically improbable.", ">\n\nMeh, more kids buy candy than adults, and every year there are more kids than adults.", ">\n\nRight, but the candy wasn’t the main prize. You got a lifetime supply of chocolate which could be sold hand over fist, which I’m sure plenty of adults considered in their quest to find the golden tickets. And plus an exclusive tour of the world’s most mysterious and profitable candy company would almost truly be a once in a lifetime event, and you’re telling me some rich celebrity wouldn’t swoop in and offer any one of those children $10mil cash for the golden ticket, just to have the prestige of going to Wonka’s factory? Just doesn’t add up.", ">\n\nTrue", ">\n\nHappy Cake Day, Jan", ">\n\nHappy what?", ">\n\nIt’s your cake day. Hence the little cake icon next to your username.", ">\n\nIt's because the thing was rigged from the start. Willy Wonka had no children of his own, so he was specifically looking for an heir to take over his empire.", ">\n\nAnd a few to murder.", ">\n\nAs you do", ">\n\nAs is tradition", ">\n\nAs You Were - LG", ">\n\nConsidering the children were all horrible can you think of the uproar on what nationality gets what arsehole behaviour.", ">\n\nI got the impression that Wonka had pretty elaborate plans for the kids, and selected them specifically to teach them lessons?", ">\n\nExactly. He chose Charlie, it was just the final test.", ">\n\nIn the gene wilder version, the candy store salesman admits he was hiding Wonka bars while they were auctioning for extreme prices. Why would a man in the business of selling candy for profit do that? Then, it's not until charlie says he wants to buy something for his grandfather that the candy seller chooses the type of bar for him, and that bar has the golden ticket. \nHe knew he had it, and was intentionally holding it for somebody who wasn't buying for themselves.", ">\n\nCharlie & the chocolate factory Lore", ">\n\nReminds me of how in Boruto, the main ladies of Naruto took a collective pregnancy pact to birth children in the same year.", ">\n\nWhat the fuck", ">\n\nThat's not literally what happened.\nThe naruto cast just had children in the same class at the start of boruto. Which makes kind of sense because Naruto ends with a giant war and those make people have children historically but it's also obviously to have a story in which all the original characters are involved through their children.\nBut it's also so obviously contrived that people joke they all made a pact to get pregnant at the same time because otherwise it's too convenient that they all have children at close to the same age.", ">\n\nThe kids of Boruto are literal baby boomers", ">\n\nThe book is set in 1960s England… What else would they speak?", ">\n\nAre you implying minorities didn't exist back in the 60s? Especially after the war?", ">\n\nNo, they're implying that in a book written in English and probably set in either England or America, the characters all speaking English is not at all surprising.", ">\n\nYou're completely missing out on OP's point by trying to be a contrarian", ">\n\nNo, I'm pointing out that it's a children's book that was written in English and set in a country where English is by far the most commonly spoken language. So the fact that the main characters are mostly children who speak English is not surprising at all. Disagreeing is not the same as being contrarian.", ">\n\nYou are missing out on OP's point", ">\n\nPlease do tell, o enlightened one! What point am I missing exactly?", ">\n\nOr maybe they just didn’t ship the golden ticket chocolate bars to other countries… \nI doubt there we’re many people living in England who speak no English back in those days", ">\n\nAugustus Gloop was German, though? I mean, maybe he was a German immigrant who moved to England, but I was always under the impression that he lived in Germany based on his and his parents' accents.", ">\n\nAnd I thought Mike was the American. What with all the cowboy gear. Could be from anywhere I guess.", ">\n\nYou are seeking logic in a movie where a piece of gum turns a girl into a blueberry… let that sink in", ">\n\n\"I do say, that song & dance all seemed a bit rehearsed!\" (Best line from the remake.)", ">\n\nTLDW - \nBetween 12% and 24%\nThe range is caused when the definition of “white person/English speaking” is changed", ">\n\nI'll bet when you consider that globalization want a thing in the 1920s and you eliminate basically all of Asia, Africa, and South America considering an American candy company's distribution network. The British kid was from a wealthy family who spent insane amounts of money to find a ticket. \nThe the German kid is the most odd to me. How popular has American chocolate ever been in Germany? I'm guessing that is not very popular and that since his family only seemed relatively well off, a trip to America may have been a prohibitive expense due nothing more than a candy factory tour.\nEdit: TIL that the story took place in England (definitely at the forefront of globalization, even in the 1920s). So, that pretty much destroys the logic of my argument.", ">\n\nKid was also a chubster who inhaled sweets like air.", ">\n\nTo be fair English speaking countries tend to be richer therefore more kids there will buy more chocolate and therefore are more likely to get the tickets (Eg. Veruca buying hundreds of chocolates will give her a higher probability of landing a golden ticket than Charlie who can only afford one). \nBut yeah the fact that they’re children makes it rigged. Like I’m sure a teenager or even an adult would’ve gotten one because they bought chocolates too not just the kids.", ">\n\nWhat's strange is that one of those children wasn't an English speaker in real life and just learned the few lives he had to say in English without actually understanding everything.", ">\n\nI mean, it's a good way to murder your kids for insurance money and have a good alibi.", ">\n\nNot that convenient as britan is a white English speaking country it would be weird if it was different is what you meant to say 🤔", ">\n\nGrandpa Joe didn't get out of bed for 20 years. He let everyone take care of him. He decided he could walk again to see Wankas chocolate factory.", ">\n\nI still remember:\nteacher \"And all they had to eat every day was spinach\"\ngirl sitting on floor \"But I dont like spinach\"\nteacher looks down from book \"Then you would die.\"\nclass shocked picachu face\nme, in the back, cant hold back the laughter\nkid next to me looks over, What's your problem? written on his fucking kid face\ni cant speak... only laugh/cry", ">\n\nDidn't the film theory guy on YT calculate the odds of that happening?", ">\n\nAugustus Gloop wasn’t English. He was German. Don’t think he talked English at all.", ">\n\nIt's as convenient in England during that time period as it would be today if in Mexico they had something, and all the winners spoke Spanish. In other words, it's not suspiciously convenient at all.", ">\n\nThats all depends on where wonka sells his chocolate bars right?", ">\n\nSo you can suspend disbelief long enough to accept a factory with a chocolate river and candy plants but all the kids who found tickets speak the same language is just too much.." ]

[ "This is a friendly reminder to read our rules.\nRemember, /r/Showerthoughts is for showerthoughts, not \"thoughts had in the shower!\"\n(For an explanation of what a \"showerthought\" is, please read this page.)\nRule-breaking posts may result in bans.", ">\n\nI mean, one of them was German, and other than that it appeared to be a mix of British and American kids.", ">\n\nExactly. Put some respect on our bilingual king Augustus Gloop’s name OP! 🍫🇩🇪", ">\n\nFun fact! Did you know the actress who played his mother (Save some room for later!) was in a porn right around that time?", ">\n\nI didn't believe you, so I checked. This appears to be true!", ">\n\nI mean Michael Scott tried this and all the tickets went to the same company.", ">\n\nOmg maybe that episode was really just to shine light on the fact that there is a reason that all the tickets wound up going to the same demographic", ">\n\nNot really sure I’d consider Charlie Bucket and Veruca Salt as the same demographic.", ">\n\nPresumably old mate got confused between demographic and age bracket", ">\n\nAge is a demographic btw", ">\n\nOk. In the story, only Augustus Gloop and Mike Teavee are the same age (9), everyone else is a different age.\nBut why is it surprising that the main characters of a Roald Dahl Story are children? That’s kind of the point of all his children’s novels. \nThere is also almost always an element of magic, or at least the unexplained-possibly-paranormal in his books. In the novel, adults around the world searched like crazy for those tickets, but of course Wonka knows children will be the recipients because his factory, and indeed his candies, are made for children, and their imaginations. The tickets themselves were intended for children, never an adult.\nThe real convenience of it all lies in the the book being written for a target audience, and that audience is children… therefore, characters they relate to.", ">\n\nI wasn’t inherently disagreeing with you (I was responding to the person above who assumed you didn’t think age is a demographic), you can narrow the age demographic to whatever you want. I’d consider “children” to be a general age demographic, but if you want to split it up, that’s fair. \nUntil your response, I didn’t think you were referring to their age, but other points of their demographic profile (SES, culture, location, etc).", ">\n\nI’m sorry, I misunderstood! You are right in thinking I wasn’t referring to their age, btw. I agree they all fit an age demographic, but that’s hardly relevant compared to the social statuses Dahl has created for them.", ">\n\nIt's also incredibly convenient that Wonka's creepy-looking henchman was at the right time and place when all of them were discovered. Almost as if they were planted.", ">\n\nWell there was nothing \"incredibly convenient\" about the winners being English speakers. That was about 99% of the UK at the time.", ">\n\nBecause the only place willy wonkas factory shipped to was within the United Kingdoms borders?", ">\n\nExcept in the film (never read the book) it was implied Wonka’s chocolates shipped out all over the world. I mean, Augustus Gloop was Austrian/German.\nBut yeah, the fact that it was all children who got it would be statistically improbable.", ">\n\nMeh, more kids buy candy than adults, and every year there are more kids than adults.", ">\n\nRight, but the candy wasn’t the main prize. You got a lifetime supply of chocolate which could be sold hand over fist, which I’m sure plenty of adults considered in their quest to find the golden tickets. And plus an exclusive tour of the world’s most mysterious and profitable candy company would almost truly be a once in a lifetime event, and you’re telling me some rich celebrity wouldn’t swoop in and offer any one of those children $10mil cash for the golden ticket, just to have the prestige of going to Wonka’s factory? Just doesn’t add up.", ">\n\nTrue", ">\n\nHappy Cake Day, Jan", ">\n\nHappy what?", ">\n\nIt’s your cake day. Hence the little cake icon next to your username.", ">\n\nIt's because the thing was rigged from the start. Willy Wonka had no children of his own, so he was specifically looking for an heir to take over his empire.", ">\n\nAnd a few to murder.", ">\n\nAs you do", ">\n\nAs is tradition", ">\n\nAs You Were - LG", ">\n\nConsidering the children were all horrible can you think of the uproar on what nationality gets what arsehole behaviour.", ">\n\nI got the impression that Wonka had pretty elaborate plans for the kids, and selected them specifically to teach them lessons?", ">\n\nExactly. He chose Charlie, it was just the final test.", ">\n\nIn the gene wilder version, the candy store salesman admits he was hiding Wonka bars while they were auctioning for extreme prices. Why would a man in the business of selling candy for profit do that? Then, it's not until charlie says he wants to buy something for his grandfather that the candy seller chooses the type of bar for him, and that bar has the golden ticket. \nHe knew he had it, and was intentionally holding it for somebody who wasn't buying for themselves.", ">\n\nCharlie & the chocolate factory Lore", ">\n\nReminds me of how in Boruto, the main ladies of Naruto took a collective pregnancy pact to birth children in the same year.", ">\n\nWhat the fuck", ">\n\nThat's not literally what happened.\nThe naruto cast just had children in the same class at the start of boruto. Which makes kind of sense because Naruto ends with a giant war and those make people have children historically but it's also obviously to have a story in which all the original characters are involved through their children.\nBut it's also so obviously contrived that people joke they all made a pact to get pregnant at the same time because otherwise it's too convenient that they all have children at close to the same age.", ">\n\nThe kids of Boruto are literal baby boomers", ">\n\nThe book is set in 1960s England… What else would they speak?", ">\n\nAre you implying minorities didn't exist back in the 60s? Especially after the war?", ">\n\nNo, they're implying that in a book written in English and probably set in either England or America, the characters all speaking English is not at all surprising.", ">\n\nYou're completely missing out on OP's point by trying to be a contrarian", ">\n\nNo, I'm pointing out that it's a children's book that was written in English and set in a country where English is by far the most commonly spoken language. So the fact that the main characters are mostly children who speak English is not surprising at all. Disagreeing is not the same as being contrarian.", ">\n\nYou are missing out on OP's point", ">\n\nPlease do tell, o enlightened one! What point am I missing exactly?", ">\n\nOr maybe they just didn’t ship the golden ticket chocolate bars to other countries… \nI doubt there we’re many people living in England who speak no English back in those days", ">\n\nAugustus Gloop was German, though? I mean, maybe he was a German immigrant who moved to England, but I was always under the impression that he lived in Germany based on his and his parents' accents.", ">\n\nAnd I thought Mike was the American. What with all the cowboy gear. Could be from anywhere I guess.", ">\n\nYou are seeking logic in a movie where a piece of gum turns a girl into a blueberry… let that sink in", ">\n\n\"I do say, that song & dance all seemed a bit rehearsed!\" (Best line from the remake.)", ">\n\nTLDW - \nBetween 12% and 24%\nThe range is caused when the definition of “white person/English speaking” is changed", ">\n\nI'll bet when you consider that globalization want a thing in the 1920s and you eliminate basically all of Asia, Africa, and South America considering an American candy company's distribution network. The British kid was from a wealthy family who spent insane amounts of money to find a ticket. \nThe the German kid is the most odd to me. How popular has American chocolate ever been in Germany? I'm guessing that is not very popular and that since his family only seemed relatively well off, a trip to America may have been a prohibitive expense due nothing more than a candy factory tour.\nEdit: TIL that the story took place in England (definitely at the forefront of globalization, even in the 1920s). So, that pretty much destroys the logic of my argument.", ">\n\nKid was also a chubster who inhaled sweets like air.", ">\n\nTo be fair English speaking countries tend to be richer therefore more kids there will buy more chocolate and therefore are more likely to get the tickets (Eg. Veruca buying hundreds of chocolates will give her a higher probability of landing a golden ticket than Charlie who can only afford one). \nBut yeah the fact that they’re children makes it rigged. Like I’m sure a teenager or even an adult would’ve gotten one because they bought chocolates too not just the kids.", ">\n\nWhat's strange is that one of those children wasn't an English speaker in real life and just learned the few lives he had to say in English without actually understanding everything.", ">\n\nI mean, it's a good way to murder your kids for insurance money and have a good alibi.", ">\n\nNot that convenient as britan is a white English speaking country it would be weird if it was different is what you meant to say 🤔", ">\n\nGrandpa Joe didn't get out of bed for 20 years. He let everyone take care of him. He decided he could walk again to see Wankas chocolate factory.", ">\n\nI still remember:\nteacher \"And all they had to eat every day was spinach\"\ngirl sitting on floor \"But I dont like spinach\"\nteacher looks down from book \"Then you would die.\"\nclass shocked picachu face\nme, in the back, cant hold back the laughter\nkid next to me looks over, What's your problem? written on his fucking kid face\ni cant speak... only laugh/cry", ">\n\nDidn't the film theory guy on YT calculate the odds of that happening?", ">\n\nAugustus Gloop wasn’t English. He was German. Don’t think he talked English at all.", ">\n\nIt's as convenient in England during that time period as it would be today if in Mexico they had something, and all the winners spoke Spanish. In other words, it's not suspiciously convenient at all.", ">\n\nThats all depends on where wonka sells his chocolate bars right?", ">\n\nSo you can suspend disbelief long enough to accept a factory with a chocolate river and candy plants but all the kids who found tickets speak the same language is just too much..", ">\n\nOf all the unreasonable events related to that story, you found the least one." ]

[ "This is a friendly reminder to read our rules.\nRemember, /r/Showerthoughts is for showerthoughts, not \"thoughts had in the shower!\"\n(For an explanation of what a \"showerthought\" is, please read this page.)\nRule-breaking posts may result in bans.", ">\n\nI mean, one of them was German, and other than that it appeared to be a mix of British and American kids.", ">\n\nExactly. Put some respect on our bilingual king Augustus Gloop’s name OP! 🍫🇩🇪", ">\n\nFun fact! Did you know the actress who played his mother (Save some room for later!) was in a porn right around that time?", ">\n\nI didn't believe you, so I checked. This appears to be true!", ">\n\nI mean Michael Scott tried this and all the tickets went to the same company.", ">\n\nOmg maybe that episode was really just to shine light on the fact that there is a reason that all the tickets wound up going to the same demographic", ">\n\nNot really sure I’d consider Charlie Bucket and Veruca Salt as the same demographic.", ">\n\nPresumably old mate got confused between demographic and age bracket", ">\n\nAge is a demographic btw", ">\n\nOk. In the story, only Augustus Gloop and Mike Teavee are the same age (9), everyone else is a different age.\nBut why is it surprising that the main characters of a Roald Dahl Story are children? That’s kind of the point of all his children’s novels. \nThere is also almost always an element of magic, or at least the unexplained-possibly-paranormal in his books. In the novel, adults around the world searched like crazy for those tickets, but of course Wonka knows children will be the recipients because his factory, and indeed his candies, are made for children, and their imaginations. The tickets themselves were intended for children, never an adult.\nThe real convenience of it all lies in the the book being written for a target audience, and that audience is children… therefore, characters they relate to.", ">\n\nI wasn’t inherently disagreeing with you (I was responding to the person above who assumed you didn’t think age is a demographic), you can narrow the age demographic to whatever you want. I’d consider “children” to be a general age demographic, but if you want to split it up, that’s fair. \nUntil your response, I didn’t think you were referring to their age, but other points of their demographic profile (SES, culture, location, etc).", ">\n\nI’m sorry, I misunderstood! You are right in thinking I wasn’t referring to their age, btw. I agree they all fit an age demographic, but that’s hardly relevant compared to the social statuses Dahl has created for them.", ">\n\nIt's also incredibly convenient that Wonka's creepy-looking henchman was at the right time and place when all of them were discovered. Almost as if they were planted.", ">\n\nWell there was nothing \"incredibly convenient\" about the winners being English speakers. That was about 99% of the UK at the time.", ">\n\nBecause the only place willy wonkas factory shipped to was within the United Kingdoms borders?", ">\n\nExcept in the film (never read the book) it was implied Wonka’s chocolates shipped out all over the world. I mean, Augustus Gloop was Austrian/German.\nBut yeah, the fact that it was all children who got it would be statistically improbable.", ">\n\nMeh, more kids buy candy than adults, and every year there are more kids than adults.", ">\n\nRight, but the candy wasn’t the main prize. You got a lifetime supply of chocolate which could be sold hand over fist, which I’m sure plenty of adults considered in their quest to find the golden tickets. And plus an exclusive tour of the world’s most mysterious and profitable candy company would almost truly be a once in a lifetime event, and you’re telling me some rich celebrity wouldn’t swoop in and offer any one of those children $10mil cash for the golden ticket, just to have the prestige of going to Wonka’s factory? Just doesn’t add up.", ">\n\nTrue", ">\n\nHappy Cake Day, Jan", ">\n\nHappy what?", ">\n\nIt’s your cake day. Hence the little cake icon next to your username.", ">\n\nIt's because the thing was rigged from the start. Willy Wonka had no children of his own, so he was specifically looking for an heir to take over his empire.", ">\n\nAnd a few to murder.", ">\n\nAs you do", ">\n\nAs is tradition", ">\n\nAs You Were - LG", ">\n\nConsidering the children were all horrible can you think of the uproar on what nationality gets what arsehole behaviour.", ">\n\nI got the impression that Wonka had pretty elaborate plans for the kids, and selected them specifically to teach them lessons?", ">\n\nExactly. He chose Charlie, it was just the final test.", ">\n\nIn the gene wilder version, the candy store salesman admits he was hiding Wonka bars while they were auctioning for extreme prices. Why would a man in the business of selling candy for profit do that? Then, it's not until charlie says he wants to buy something for his grandfather that the candy seller chooses the type of bar for him, and that bar has the golden ticket. \nHe knew he had it, and was intentionally holding it for somebody who wasn't buying for themselves.", ">\n\nCharlie & the chocolate factory Lore", ">\n\nReminds me of how in Boruto, the main ladies of Naruto took a collective pregnancy pact to birth children in the same year.", ">\n\nWhat the fuck", ">\n\nThat's not literally what happened.\nThe naruto cast just had children in the same class at the start of boruto. Which makes kind of sense because Naruto ends with a giant war and those make people have children historically but it's also obviously to have a story in which all the original characters are involved through their children.\nBut it's also so obviously contrived that people joke they all made a pact to get pregnant at the same time because otherwise it's too convenient that they all have children at close to the same age.", ">\n\nThe kids of Boruto are literal baby boomers", ">\n\nThe book is set in 1960s England… What else would they speak?", ">\n\nAre you implying minorities didn't exist back in the 60s? Especially after the war?", ">\n\nNo, they're implying that in a book written in English and probably set in either England or America, the characters all speaking English is not at all surprising.", ">\n\nYou're completely missing out on OP's point by trying to be a contrarian", ">\n\nNo, I'm pointing out that it's a children's book that was written in English and set in a country where English is by far the most commonly spoken language. So the fact that the main characters are mostly children who speak English is not surprising at all. Disagreeing is not the same as being contrarian.", ">\n\nYou are missing out on OP's point", ">\n\nPlease do tell, o enlightened one! What point am I missing exactly?", ">\n\nOr maybe they just didn’t ship the golden ticket chocolate bars to other countries… \nI doubt there we’re many people living in England who speak no English back in those days", ">\n\nAugustus Gloop was German, though? I mean, maybe he was a German immigrant who moved to England, but I was always under the impression that he lived in Germany based on his and his parents' accents.", ">\n\nAnd I thought Mike was the American. What with all the cowboy gear. Could be from anywhere I guess.", ">\n\nYou are seeking logic in a movie where a piece of gum turns a girl into a blueberry… let that sink in", ">\n\n\"I do say, that song & dance all seemed a bit rehearsed!\" (Best line from the remake.)", ">\n\nTLDW - \nBetween 12% and 24%\nThe range is caused when the definition of “white person/English speaking” is changed", ">\n\nI'll bet when you consider that globalization want a thing in the 1920s and you eliminate basically all of Asia, Africa, and South America considering an American candy company's distribution network. The British kid was from a wealthy family who spent insane amounts of money to find a ticket. \nThe the German kid is the most odd to me. How popular has American chocolate ever been in Germany? I'm guessing that is not very popular and that since his family only seemed relatively well off, a trip to America may have been a prohibitive expense due nothing more than a candy factory tour.\nEdit: TIL that the story took place in England (definitely at the forefront of globalization, even in the 1920s). So, that pretty much destroys the logic of my argument.", ">\n\nKid was also a chubster who inhaled sweets like air.", ">\n\nTo be fair English speaking countries tend to be richer therefore more kids there will buy more chocolate and therefore are more likely to get the tickets (Eg. Veruca buying hundreds of chocolates will give her a higher probability of landing a golden ticket than Charlie who can only afford one). \nBut yeah the fact that they’re children makes it rigged. Like I’m sure a teenager or even an adult would’ve gotten one because they bought chocolates too not just the kids.", ">\n\nWhat's strange is that one of those children wasn't an English speaker in real life and just learned the few lives he had to say in English without actually understanding everything.", ">\n\nI mean, it's a good way to murder your kids for insurance money and have a good alibi.", ">\n\nNot that convenient as britan is a white English speaking country it would be weird if it was different is what you meant to say 🤔", ">\n\nGrandpa Joe didn't get out of bed for 20 years. He let everyone take care of him. He decided he could walk again to see Wankas chocolate factory.", ">\n\nI still remember:\nteacher \"And all they had to eat every day was spinach\"\ngirl sitting on floor \"But I dont like spinach\"\nteacher looks down from book \"Then you would die.\"\nclass shocked picachu face\nme, in the back, cant hold back the laughter\nkid next to me looks over, What's your problem? written on his fucking kid face\ni cant speak... only laugh/cry", ">\n\nDidn't the film theory guy on YT calculate the odds of that happening?", ">\n\nAugustus Gloop wasn’t English. He was German. Don’t think he talked English at all.", ">\n\nIt's as convenient in England during that time period as it would be today if in Mexico they had something, and all the winners spoke Spanish. In other words, it's not suspiciously convenient at all.", ">\n\nThats all depends on where wonka sells his chocolate bars right?", ">\n\nSo you can suspend disbelief long enough to accept a factory with a chocolate river and candy plants but all the kids who found tickets speak the same language is just too much..", ">\n\nOf all the unreasonable events related to that story, you found the least one.", ">\n\nAugustus Gloop was from Germany.\nMike Teevee was from the USA." ]

[ "This is a friendly reminder to read our rules.\nRemember, /r/Showerthoughts is for showerthoughts, not \"thoughts had in the shower!\"\n(For an explanation of what a \"showerthought\" is, please read this page.)\nRule-breaking posts may result in bans.", ">\n\nI mean, one of them was German, and other than that it appeared to be a mix of British and American kids.", ">\n\nExactly. Put some respect on our bilingual king Augustus Gloop’s name OP! 🍫🇩🇪", ">\n\nFun fact! Did you know the actress who played his mother (Save some room for later!) was in a porn right around that time?", ">\n\nI didn't believe you, so I checked. This appears to be true!", ">\n\nI mean Michael Scott tried this and all the tickets went to the same company.", ">\n\nOmg maybe that episode was really just to shine light on the fact that there is a reason that all the tickets wound up going to the same demographic", ">\n\nNot really sure I’d consider Charlie Bucket and Veruca Salt as the same demographic.", ">\n\nPresumably old mate got confused between demographic and age bracket", ">\n\nAge is a demographic btw", ">\n\nOk. In the story, only Augustus Gloop and Mike Teavee are the same age (9), everyone else is a different age.\nBut why is it surprising that the main characters of a Roald Dahl Story are children? That’s kind of the point of all his children’s novels. \nThere is also almost always an element of magic, or at least the unexplained-possibly-paranormal in his books. In the novel, adults around the world searched like crazy for those tickets, but of course Wonka knows children will be the recipients because his factory, and indeed his candies, are made for children, and their imaginations. The tickets themselves were intended for children, never an adult.\nThe real convenience of it all lies in the the book being written for a target audience, and that audience is children… therefore, characters they relate to.", ">\n\nI wasn’t inherently disagreeing with you (I was responding to the person above who assumed you didn’t think age is a demographic), you can narrow the age demographic to whatever you want. I’d consider “children” to be a general age demographic, but if you want to split it up, that’s fair. \nUntil your response, I didn’t think you were referring to their age, but other points of their demographic profile (SES, culture, location, etc).", ">\n\nI’m sorry, I misunderstood! You are right in thinking I wasn’t referring to their age, btw. I agree they all fit an age demographic, but that’s hardly relevant compared to the social statuses Dahl has created for them.", ">\n\nIt's also incredibly convenient that Wonka's creepy-looking henchman was at the right time and place when all of them were discovered. Almost as if they were planted.", ">\n\nWell there was nothing \"incredibly convenient\" about the winners being English speakers. That was about 99% of the UK at the time.", ">\n\nBecause the only place willy wonkas factory shipped to was within the United Kingdoms borders?", ">\n\nExcept in the film (never read the book) it was implied Wonka’s chocolates shipped out all over the world. I mean, Augustus Gloop was Austrian/German.\nBut yeah, the fact that it was all children who got it would be statistically improbable.", ">\n\nMeh, more kids buy candy than adults, and every year there are more kids than adults.", ">\n\nRight, but the candy wasn’t the main prize. You got a lifetime supply of chocolate which could be sold hand over fist, which I’m sure plenty of adults considered in their quest to find the golden tickets. And plus an exclusive tour of the world’s most mysterious and profitable candy company would almost truly be a once in a lifetime event, and you’re telling me some rich celebrity wouldn’t swoop in and offer any one of those children $10mil cash for the golden ticket, just to have the prestige of going to Wonka’s factory? Just doesn’t add up.", ">\n\nTrue", ">\n\nHappy Cake Day, Jan", ">\n\nHappy what?", ">\n\nIt’s your cake day. Hence the little cake icon next to your username.", ">\n\nIt's because the thing was rigged from the start. Willy Wonka had no children of his own, so he was specifically looking for an heir to take over his empire.", ">\n\nAnd a few to murder.", ">\n\nAs you do", ">\n\nAs is tradition", ">\n\nAs You Were - LG", ">\n\nConsidering the children were all horrible can you think of the uproar on what nationality gets what arsehole behaviour.", ">\n\nI got the impression that Wonka had pretty elaborate plans for the kids, and selected them specifically to teach them lessons?", ">\n\nExactly. He chose Charlie, it was just the final test.", ">\n\nIn the gene wilder version, the candy store salesman admits he was hiding Wonka bars while they were auctioning for extreme prices. Why would a man in the business of selling candy for profit do that? Then, it's not until charlie says he wants to buy something for his grandfather that the candy seller chooses the type of bar for him, and that bar has the golden ticket. \nHe knew he had it, and was intentionally holding it for somebody who wasn't buying for themselves.", ">\n\nCharlie & the chocolate factory Lore", ">\n\nReminds me of how in Boruto, the main ladies of Naruto took a collective pregnancy pact to birth children in the same year.", ">\n\nWhat the fuck", ">\n\nThat's not literally what happened.\nThe naruto cast just had children in the same class at the start of boruto. Which makes kind of sense because Naruto ends with a giant war and those make people have children historically but it's also obviously to have a story in which all the original characters are involved through their children.\nBut it's also so obviously contrived that people joke they all made a pact to get pregnant at the same time because otherwise it's too convenient that they all have children at close to the same age.", ">\n\nThe kids of Boruto are literal baby boomers", ">\n\nThe book is set in 1960s England… What else would they speak?", ">\n\nAre you implying minorities didn't exist back in the 60s? Especially after the war?", ">\n\nNo, they're implying that in a book written in English and probably set in either England or America, the characters all speaking English is not at all surprising.", ">\n\nYou're completely missing out on OP's point by trying to be a contrarian", ">\n\nNo, I'm pointing out that it's a children's book that was written in English and set in a country where English is by far the most commonly spoken language. So the fact that the main characters are mostly children who speak English is not surprising at all. Disagreeing is not the same as being contrarian.", ">\n\nYou are missing out on OP's point", ">\n\nPlease do tell, o enlightened one! What point am I missing exactly?", ">\n\nOr maybe they just didn’t ship the golden ticket chocolate bars to other countries… \nI doubt there we’re many people living in England who speak no English back in those days", ">\n\nAugustus Gloop was German, though? I mean, maybe he was a German immigrant who moved to England, but I was always under the impression that he lived in Germany based on his and his parents' accents.", ">\n\nAnd I thought Mike was the American. What with all the cowboy gear. Could be from anywhere I guess.", ">\n\nYou are seeking logic in a movie where a piece of gum turns a girl into a blueberry… let that sink in", ">\n\n\"I do say, that song & dance all seemed a bit rehearsed!\" (Best line from the remake.)", ">\n\nTLDW - \nBetween 12% and 24%\nThe range is caused when the definition of “white person/English speaking” is changed", ">\n\nI'll bet when you consider that globalization want a thing in the 1920s and you eliminate basically all of Asia, Africa, and South America considering an American candy company's distribution network. The British kid was from a wealthy family who spent insane amounts of money to find a ticket. \nThe the German kid is the most odd to me. How popular has American chocolate ever been in Germany? I'm guessing that is not very popular and that since his family only seemed relatively well off, a trip to America may have been a prohibitive expense due nothing more than a candy factory tour.\nEdit: TIL that the story took place in England (definitely at the forefront of globalization, even in the 1920s). So, that pretty much destroys the logic of my argument.", ">\n\nKid was also a chubster who inhaled sweets like air.", ">\n\nTo be fair English speaking countries tend to be richer therefore more kids there will buy more chocolate and therefore are more likely to get the tickets (Eg. Veruca buying hundreds of chocolates will give her a higher probability of landing a golden ticket than Charlie who can only afford one). \nBut yeah the fact that they’re children makes it rigged. Like I’m sure a teenager or even an adult would’ve gotten one because they bought chocolates too not just the kids.", ">\n\nWhat's strange is that one of those children wasn't an English speaker in real life and just learned the few lives he had to say in English without actually understanding everything.", ">\n\nI mean, it's a good way to murder your kids for insurance money and have a good alibi.", ">\n\nNot that convenient as britan is a white English speaking country it would be weird if it was different is what you meant to say 🤔", ">\n\nGrandpa Joe didn't get out of bed for 20 years. He let everyone take care of him. He decided he could walk again to see Wankas chocolate factory.", ">\n\nI still remember:\nteacher \"And all they had to eat every day was spinach\"\ngirl sitting on floor \"But I dont like spinach\"\nteacher looks down from book \"Then you would die.\"\nclass shocked picachu face\nme, in the back, cant hold back the laughter\nkid next to me looks over, What's your problem? written on his fucking kid face\ni cant speak... only laugh/cry", ">\n\nDidn't the film theory guy on YT calculate the odds of that happening?", ">\n\nAugustus Gloop wasn’t English. He was German. Don’t think he talked English at all.", ">\n\nIt's as convenient in England during that time period as it would be today if in Mexico they had something, and all the winners spoke Spanish. In other words, it's not suspiciously convenient at all.", ">\n\nThats all depends on where wonka sells his chocolate bars right?", ">\n\nSo you can suspend disbelief long enough to accept a factory with a chocolate river and candy plants but all the kids who found tickets speak the same language is just too much..", ">\n\nOf all the unreasonable events related to that story, you found the least one.", ">\n\nAugustus Gloop was from Germany.\nMike Teevee was from the USA.", ">\n\nI mean, it was America in the 1920s ... not a real inclusive time period. Not a lot of globalization going on in the 1920s, in America.\nEdit: 1920s England it seems ... so a fair bit more globalization than I'd assumed" ]

[ "This is a friendly reminder to read our rules.\nRemember, /r/Showerthoughts is for showerthoughts, not \"thoughts had in the shower!\"\n(For an explanation of what a \"showerthought\" is, please read this page.)\nRule-breaking posts may result in bans.", ">\n\nI mean, one of them was German, and other than that it appeared to be a mix of British and American kids.", ">\n\nExactly. Put some respect on our bilingual king Augustus Gloop’s name OP! 🍫🇩🇪", ">\n\nFun fact! Did you know the actress who played his mother (Save some room for later!) was in a porn right around that time?", ">\n\nI didn't believe you, so I checked. This appears to be true!", ">\n\nI mean Michael Scott tried this and all the tickets went to the same company.", ">\n\nOmg maybe that episode was really just to shine light on the fact that there is a reason that all the tickets wound up going to the same demographic", ">\n\nNot really sure I’d consider Charlie Bucket and Veruca Salt as the same demographic.", ">\n\nPresumably old mate got confused between demographic and age bracket", ">\n\nAge is a demographic btw", ">\n\nOk. In the story, only Augustus Gloop and Mike Teavee are the same age (9), everyone else is a different age.\nBut why is it surprising that the main characters of a Roald Dahl Story are children? That’s kind of the point of all his children’s novels. \nThere is also almost always an element of magic, or at least the unexplained-possibly-paranormal in his books. In the novel, adults around the world searched like crazy for those tickets, but of course Wonka knows children will be the recipients because his factory, and indeed his candies, are made for children, and their imaginations. The tickets themselves were intended for children, never an adult.\nThe real convenience of it all lies in the the book being written for a target audience, and that audience is children… therefore, characters they relate to.", ">\n\nI wasn’t inherently disagreeing with you (I was responding to the person above who assumed you didn’t think age is a demographic), you can narrow the age demographic to whatever you want. I’d consider “children” to be a general age demographic, but if you want to split it up, that’s fair. \nUntil your response, I didn’t think you were referring to their age, but other points of their demographic profile (SES, culture, location, etc).", ">\n\nI’m sorry, I misunderstood! You are right in thinking I wasn’t referring to their age, btw. I agree they all fit an age demographic, but that’s hardly relevant compared to the social statuses Dahl has created for them.", ">\n\nIt's also incredibly convenient that Wonka's creepy-looking henchman was at the right time and place when all of them were discovered. Almost as if they were planted.", ">\n\nWell there was nothing \"incredibly convenient\" about the winners being English speakers. That was about 99% of the UK at the time.", ">\n\nBecause the only place willy wonkas factory shipped to was within the United Kingdoms borders?", ">\n\nExcept in the film (never read the book) it was implied Wonka’s chocolates shipped out all over the world. I mean, Augustus Gloop was Austrian/German.\nBut yeah, the fact that it was all children who got it would be statistically improbable.", ">\n\nMeh, more kids buy candy than adults, and every year there are more kids than adults.", ">\n\nRight, but the candy wasn’t the main prize. You got a lifetime supply of chocolate which could be sold hand over fist, which I’m sure plenty of adults considered in their quest to find the golden tickets. And plus an exclusive tour of the world’s most mysterious and profitable candy company would almost truly be a once in a lifetime event, and you’re telling me some rich celebrity wouldn’t swoop in and offer any one of those children $10mil cash for the golden ticket, just to have the prestige of going to Wonka’s factory? Just doesn’t add up.", ">\n\nTrue", ">\n\nHappy Cake Day, Jan", ">\n\nHappy what?", ">\n\nIt’s your cake day. Hence the little cake icon next to your username.", ">\n\nIt's because the thing was rigged from the start. Willy Wonka had no children of his own, so he was specifically looking for an heir to take over his empire.", ">\n\nAnd a few to murder.", ">\n\nAs you do", ">\n\nAs is tradition", ">\n\nAs You Were - LG", ">\n\nConsidering the children were all horrible can you think of the uproar on what nationality gets what arsehole behaviour.", ">\n\nI got the impression that Wonka had pretty elaborate plans for the kids, and selected them specifically to teach them lessons?", ">\n\nExactly. He chose Charlie, it was just the final test.", ">\n\nIn the gene wilder version, the candy store salesman admits he was hiding Wonka bars while they were auctioning for extreme prices. Why would a man in the business of selling candy for profit do that? Then, it's not until charlie says he wants to buy something for his grandfather that the candy seller chooses the type of bar for him, and that bar has the golden ticket. \nHe knew he had it, and was intentionally holding it for somebody who wasn't buying for themselves.", ">\n\nCharlie & the chocolate factory Lore", ">\n\nReminds me of how in Boruto, the main ladies of Naruto took a collective pregnancy pact to birth children in the same year.", ">\n\nWhat the fuck", ">\n\nThat's not literally what happened.\nThe naruto cast just had children in the same class at the start of boruto. Which makes kind of sense because Naruto ends with a giant war and those make people have children historically but it's also obviously to have a story in which all the original characters are involved through their children.\nBut it's also so obviously contrived that people joke they all made a pact to get pregnant at the same time because otherwise it's too convenient that they all have children at close to the same age.", ">\n\nThe kids of Boruto are literal baby boomers", ">\n\nThe book is set in 1960s England… What else would they speak?", ">\n\nAre you implying minorities didn't exist back in the 60s? Especially after the war?", ">\n\nNo, they're implying that in a book written in English and probably set in either England or America, the characters all speaking English is not at all surprising.", ">\n\nYou're completely missing out on OP's point by trying to be a contrarian", ">\n\nNo, I'm pointing out that it's a children's book that was written in English and set in a country where English is by far the most commonly spoken language. So the fact that the main characters are mostly children who speak English is not surprising at all. Disagreeing is not the same as being contrarian.", ">\n\nYou are missing out on OP's point", ">\n\nPlease do tell, o enlightened one! What point am I missing exactly?", ">\n\nOr maybe they just didn’t ship the golden ticket chocolate bars to other countries… \nI doubt there we’re many people living in England who speak no English back in those days", ">\n\nAugustus Gloop was German, though? I mean, maybe he was a German immigrant who moved to England, but I was always under the impression that he lived in Germany based on his and his parents' accents.", ">\n\nAnd I thought Mike was the American. What with all the cowboy gear. Could be from anywhere I guess.", ">\n\nYou are seeking logic in a movie where a piece of gum turns a girl into a blueberry… let that sink in", ">\n\n\"I do say, that song & dance all seemed a bit rehearsed!\" (Best line from the remake.)", ">\n\nTLDW - \nBetween 12% and 24%\nThe range is caused when the definition of “white person/English speaking” is changed", ">\n\nI'll bet when you consider that globalization want a thing in the 1920s and you eliminate basically all of Asia, Africa, and South America considering an American candy company's distribution network. The British kid was from a wealthy family who spent insane amounts of money to find a ticket. \nThe the German kid is the most odd to me. How popular has American chocolate ever been in Germany? I'm guessing that is not very popular and that since his family only seemed relatively well off, a trip to America may have been a prohibitive expense due nothing more than a candy factory tour.\nEdit: TIL that the story took place in England (definitely at the forefront of globalization, even in the 1920s). So, that pretty much destroys the logic of my argument.", ">\n\nKid was also a chubster who inhaled sweets like air.", ">\n\nTo be fair English speaking countries tend to be richer therefore more kids there will buy more chocolate and therefore are more likely to get the tickets (Eg. Veruca buying hundreds of chocolates will give her a higher probability of landing a golden ticket than Charlie who can only afford one). \nBut yeah the fact that they’re children makes it rigged. Like I’m sure a teenager or even an adult would’ve gotten one because they bought chocolates too not just the kids.", ">\n\nWhat's strange is that one of those children wasn't an English speaker in real life and just learned the few lives he had to say in English without actually understanding everything.", ">\n\nI mean, it's a good way to murder your kids for insurance money and have a good alibi.", ">\n\nNot that convenient as britan is a white English speaking country it would be weird if it was different is what you meant to say 🤔", ">\n\nGrandpa Joe didn't get out of bed for 20 years. He let everyone take care of him. He decided he could walk again to see Wankas chocolate factory.", ">\n\nI still remember:\nteacher \"And all they had to eat every day was spinach\"\ngirl sitting on floor \"But I dont like spinach\"\nteacher looks down from book \"Then you would die.\"\nclass shocked picachu face\nme, in the back, cant hold back the laughter\nkid next to me looks over, What's your problem? written on his fucking kid face\ni cant speak... only laugh/cry", ">\n\nDidn't the film theory guy on YT calculate the odds of that happening?", ">\n\nAugustus Gloop wasn’t English. He was German. Don’t think he talked English at all.", ">\n\nIt's as convenient in England during that time period as it would be today if in Mexico they had something, and all the winners spoke Spanish. In other words, it's not suspiciously convenient at all.", ">\n\nThats all depends on where wonka sells his chocolate bars right?", ">\n\nSo you can suspend disbelief long enough to accept a factory with a chocolate river and candy plants but all the kids who found tickets speak the same language is just too much..", ">\n\nOf all the unreasonable events related to that story, you found the least one.", ">\n\nAugustus Gloop was from Germany.\nMike Teevee was from the USA.", ">\n\nI mean, it was America in the 1920s ... not a real inclusive time period. Not a lot of globalization going on in the 1920s, in America.\nEdit: 1920s England it seems ... so a fair bit more globalization than I'd assumed", ">\n\nPlenty of black people though.\nEdit: got those who can’t be bothered reading the stupid Reddit argument below, Charlie was originally written as black, and his family was dirt poor." ]

[ "This is a friendly reminder to read our rules.\nRemember, /r/Showerthoughts is for showerthoughts, not \"thoughts had in the shower!\"\n(For an explanation of what a \"showerthought\" is, please read this page.)\nRule-breaking posts may result in bans.", ">\n\nI mean, one of them was German, and other than that it appeared to be a mix of British and American kids.", ">\n\nExactly. Put some respect on our bilingual king Augustus Gloop’s name OP! 🍫🇩🇪", ">\n\nFun fact! Did you know the actress who played his mother (Save some room for later!) was in a porn right around that time?", ">\n\nI didn't believe you, so I checked. This appears to be true!", ">\n\nI mean Michael Scott tried this and all the tickets went to the same company.", ">\n\nOmg maybe that episode was really just to shine light on the fact that there is a reason that all the tickets wound up going to the same demographic", ">\n\nNot really sure I’d consider Charlie Bucket and Veruca Salt as the same demographic.", ">\n\nPresumably old mate got confused between demographic and age bracket", ">\n\nAge is a demographic btw", ">\n\nOk. In the story, only Augustus Gloop and Mike Teavee are the same age (9), everyone else is a different age.\nBut why is it surprising that the main characters of a Roald Dahl Story are children? That’s kind of the point of all his children’s novels. \nThere is also almost always an element of magic, or at least the unexplained-possibly-paranormal in his books. In the novel, adults around the world searched like crazy for those tickets, but of course Wonka knows children will be the recipients because his factory, and indeed his candies, are made for children, and their imaginations. The tickets themselves were intended for children, never an adult.\nThe real convenience of it all lies in the the book being written for a target audience, and that audience is children… therefore, characters they relate to.", ">\n\nI wasn’t inherently disagreeing with you (I was responding to the person above who assumed you didn’t think age is a demographic), you can narrow the age demographic to whatever you want. I’d consider “children” to be a general age demographic, but if you want to split it up, that’s fair. \nUntil your response, I didn’t think you were referring to their age, but other points of their demographic profile (SES, culture, location, etc).", ">\n\nI’m sorry, I misunderstood! You are right in thinking I wasn’t referring to their age, btw. I agree they all fit an age demographic, but that’s hardly relevant compared to the social statuses Dahl has created for them.", ">\n\nIt's also incredibly convenient that Wonka's creepy-looking henchman was at the right time and place when all of them were discovered. Almost as if they were planted.", ">\n\nWell there was nothing \"incredibly convenient\" about the winners being English speakers. That was about 99% of the UK at the time.", ">\n\nBecause the only place willy wonkas factory shipped to was within the United Kingdoms borders?", ">\n\nExcept in the film (never read the book) it was implied Wonka’s chocolates shipped out all over the world. I mean, Augustus Gloop was Austrian/German.\nBut yeah, the fact that it was all children who got it would be statistically improbable.", ">\n\nMeh, more kids buy candy than adults, and every year there are more kids than adults.", ">\n\nRight, but the candy wasn’t the main prize. You got a lifetime supply of chocolate which could be sold hand over fist, which I’m sure plenty of adults considered in their quest to find the golden tickets. And plus an exclusive tour of the world’s most mysterious and profitable candy company would almost truly be a once in a lifetime event, and you’re telling me some rich celebrity wouldn’t swoop in and offer any one of those children $10mil cash for the golden ticket, just to have the prestige of going to Wonka’s factory? Just doesn’t add up.", ">\n\nTrue", ">\n\nHappy Cake Day, Jan", ">\n\nHappy what?", ">\n\nIt’s your cake day. Hence the little cake icon next to your username.", ">\n\nIt's because the thing was rigged from the start. Willy Wonka had no children of his own, so he was specifically looking for an heir to take over his empire.", ">\n\nAnd a few to murder.", ">\n\nAs you do", ">\n\nAs is tradition", ">\n\nAs You Were - LG", ">\n\nConsidering the children were all horrible can you think of the uproar on what nationality gets what arsehole behaviour.", ">\n\nI got the impression that Wonka had pretty elaborate plans for the kids, and selected them specifically to teach them lessons?", ">\n\nExactly. He chose Charlie, it was just the final test.", ">\n\nIn the gene wilder version, the candy store salesman admits he was hiding Wonka bars while they were auctioning for extreme prices. Why would a man in the business of selling candy for profit do that? Then, it's not until charlie says he wants to buy something for his grandfather that the candy seller chooses the type of bar for him, and that bar has the golden ticket. \nHe knew he had it, and was intentionally holding it for somebody who wasn't buying for themselves.", ">\n\nCharlie & the chocolate factory Lore", ">\n\nReminds me of how in Boruto, the main ladies of Naruto took a collective pregnancy pact to birth children in the same year.", ">\n\nWhat the fuck", ">\n\nThat's not literally what happened.\nThe naruto cast just had children in the same class at the start of boruto. Which makes kind of sense because Naruto ends with a giant war and those make people have children historically but it's also obviously to have a story in which all the original characters are involved through their children.\nBut it's also so obviously contrived that people joke they all made a pact to get pregnant at the same time because otherwise it's too convenient that they all have children at close to the same age.", ">\n\nThe kids of Boruto are literal baby boomers", ">\n\nThe book is set in 1960s England… What else would they speak?", ">\n\nAre you implying minorities didn't exist back in the 60s? Especially after the war?", ">\n\nNo, they're implying that in a book written in English and probably set in either England or America, the characters all speaking English is not at all surprising.", ">\n\nYou're completely missing out on OP's point by trying to be a contrarian", ">\n\nNo, I'm pointing out that it's a children's book that was written in English and set in a country where English is by far the most commonly spoken language. So the fact that the main characters are mostly children who speak English is not surprising at all. Disagreeing is not the same as being contrarian.", ">\n\nYou are missing out on OP's point", ">\n\nPlease do tell, o enlightened one! What point am I missing exactly?", ">\n\nOr maybe they just didn’t ship the golden ticket chocolate bars to other countries… \nI doubt there we’re many people living in England who speak no English back in those days", ">\n\nAugustus Gloop was German, though? I mean, maybe he was a German immigrant who moved to England, but I was always under the impression that he lived in Germany based on his and his parents' accents.", ">\n\nAnd I thought Mike was the American. What with all the cowboy gear. Could be from anywhere I guess.", ">\n\nYou are seeking logic in a movie where a piece of gum turns a girl into a blueberry… let that sink in", ">\n\n\"I do say, that song & dance all seemed a bit rehearsed!\" (Best line from the remake.)", ">\n\nTLDW - \nBetween 12% and 24%\nThe range is caused when the definition of “white person/English speaking” is changed", ">\n\nI'll bet when you consider that globalization want a thing in the 1920s and you eliminate basically all of Asia, Africa, and South America considering an American candy company's distribution network. The British kid was from a wealthy family who spent insane amounts of money to find a ticket. \nThe the German kid is the most odd to me. How popular has American chocolate ever been in Germany? I'm guessing that is not very popular and that since his family only seemed relatively well off, a trip to America may have been a prohibitive expense due nothing more than a candy factory tour.\nEdit: TIL that the story took place in England (definitely at the forefront of globalization, even in the 1920s). So, that pretty much destroys the logic of my argument.", ">\n\nKid was also a chubster who inhaled sweets like air.", ">\n\nTo be fair English speaking countries tend to be richer therefore more kids there will buy more chocolate and therefore are more likely to get the tickets (Eg. Veruca buying hundreds of chocolates will give her a higher probability of landing a golden ticket than Charlie who can only afford one). \nBut yeah the fact that they’re children makes it rigged. Like I’m sure a teenager or even an adult would’ve gotten one because they bought chocolates too not just the kids.", ">\n\nWhat's strange is that one of those children wasn't an English speaker in real life and just learned the few lives he had to say in English without actually understanding everything.", ">\n\nI mean, it's a good way to murder your kids for insurance money and have a good alibi.", ">\n\nNot that convenient as britan is a white English speaking country it would be weird if it was different is what you meant to say 🤔", ">\n\nGrandpa Joe didn't get out of bed for 20 years. He let everyone take care of him. He decided he could walk again to see Wankas chocolate factory.", ">\n\nI still remember:\nteacher \"And all they had to eat every day was spinach\"\ngirl sitting on floor \"But I dont like spinach\"\nteacher looks down from book \"Then you would die.\"\nclass shocked picachu face\nme, in the back, cant hold back the laughter\nkid next to me looks over, What's your problem? written on his fucking kid face\ni cant speak... only laugh/cry", ">\n\nDidn't the film theory guy on YT calculate the odds of that happening?", ">\n\nAugustus Gloop wasn’t English. He was German. Don’t think he talked English at all.", ">\n\nIt's as convenient in England during that time period as it would be today if in Mexico they had something, and all the winners spoke Spanish. In other words, it's not suspiciously convenient at all.", ">\n\nThats all depends on where wonka sells his chocolate bars right?", ">\n\nSo you can suspend disbelief long enough to accept a factory with a chocolate river and candy plants but all the kids who found tickets speak the same language is just too much..", ">\n\nOf all the unreasonable events related to that story, you found the least one.", ">\n\nAugustus Gloop was from Germany.\nMike Teevee was from the USA.", ">\n\nI mean, it was America in the 1920s ... not a real inclusive time period. Not a lot of globalization going on in the 1920s, in America.\nEdit: 1920s England it seems ... so a fair bit more globalization than I'd assumed", ">\n\nPlenty of black people though.\nEdit: got those who can’t be bothered reading the stupid Reddit argument below, Charlie was originally written as black, and his family was dirt poor.", ">\n\nWhat do you think that the black population in the US (or any country that a British candy maker would have exported to in the 1920s for that matter) was in the 1920s?" ]

[ "This is a friendly reminder to read our rules.\nRemember, /r/Showerthoughts is for showerthoughts, not \"thoughts had in the shower!\"\n(For an explanation of what a \"showerthought\" is, please read this page.)\nRule-breaking posts may result in bans.", ">\n\nI mean, one of them was German, and other than that it appeared to be a mix of British and American kids.", ">\n\nExactly. Put some respect on our bilingual king Augustus Gloop’s name OP! 🍫🇩🇪", ">\n\nFun fact! Did you know the actress who played his mother (Save some room for later!) was in a porn right around that time?", ">\n\nI didn't believe you, so I checked. This appears to be true!", ">\n\nI mean Michael Scott tried this and all the tickets went to the same company.", ">\n\nOmg maybe that episode was really just to shine light on the fact that there is a reason that all the tickets wound up going to the same demographic", ">\n\nNot really sure I’d consider Charlie Bucket and Veruca Salt as the same demographic.", ">\n\nPresumably old mate got confused between demographic and age bracket", ">\n\nAge is a demographic btw", ">\n\nOk. In the story, only Augustus Gloop and Mike Teavee are the same age (9), everyone else is a different age.\nBut why is it surprising that the main characters of a Roald Dahl Story are children? That’s kind of the point of all his children’s novels. \nThere is also almost always an element of magic, or at least the unexplained-possibly-paranormal in his books. In the novel, adults around the world searched like crazy for those tickets, but of course Wonka knows children will be the recipients because his factory, and indeed his candies, are made for children, and their imaginations. The tickets themselves were intended for children, never an adult.\nThe real convenience of it all lies in the the book being written for a target audience, and that audience is children… therefore, characters they relate to.", ">\n\nI wasn’t inherently disagreeing with you (I was responding to the person above who assumed you didn’t think age is a demographic), you can narrow the age demographic to whatever you want. I’d consider “children” to be a general age demographic, but if you want to split it up, that’s fair. \nUntil your response, I didn’t think you were referring to their age, but other points of their demographic profile (SES, culture, location, etc).", ">\n\nI’m sorry, I misunderstood! You are right in thinking I wasn’t referring to their age, btw. I agree they all fit an age demographic, but that’s hardly relevant compared to the social statuses Dahl has created for them.", ">\n\nIt's also incredibly convenient that Wonka's creepy-looking henchman was at the right time and place when all of them were discovered. Almost as if they were planted.", ">\n\nWell there was nothing \"incredibly convenient\" about the winners being English speakers. That was about 99% of the UK at the time.", ">\n\nBecause the only place willy wonkas factory shipped to was within the United Kingdoms borders?", ">\n\nExcept in the film (never read the book) it was implied Wonka’s chocolates shipped out all over the world. I mean, Augustus Gloop was Austrian/German.\nBut yeah, the fact that it was all children who got it would be statistically improbable.", ">\n\nMeh, more kids buy candy than adults, and every year there are more kids than adults.", ">\n\nRight, but the candy wasn’t the main prize. You got a lifetime supply of chocolate which could be sold hand over fist, which I’m sure plenty of adults considered in their quest to find the golden tickets. And plus an exclusive tour of the world’s most mysterious and profitable candy company would almost truly be a once in a lifetime event, and you’re telling me some rich celebrity wouldn’t swoop in and offer any one of those children $10mil cash for the golden ticket, just to have the prestige of going to Wonka’s factory? Just doesn’t add up.", ">\n\nTrue", ">\n\nHappy Cake Day, Jan", ">\n\nHappy what?", ">\n\nIt’s your cake day. Hence the little cake icon next to your username.", ">\n\nIt's because the thing was rigged from the start. Willy Wonka had no children of his own, so he was specifically looking for an heir to take over his empire.", ">\n\nAnd a few to murder.", ">\n\nAs you do", ">\n\nAs is tradition", ">\n\nAs You Were - LG", ">\n\nConsidering the children were all horrible can you think of the uproar on what nationality gets what arsehole behaviour.", ">\n\nI got the impression that Wonka had pretty elaborate plans for the kids, and selected them specifically to teach them lessons?", ">\n\nExactly. He chose Charlie, it was just the final test.", ">\n\nIn the gene wilder version, the candy store salesman admits he was hiding Wonka bars while they were auctioning for extreme prices. Why would a man in the business of selling candy for profit do that? Then, it's not until charlie says he wants to buy something for his grandfather that the candy seller chooses the type of bar for him, and that bar has the golden ticket. \nHe knew he had it, and was intentionally holding it for somebody who wasn't buying for themselves.", ">\n\nCharlie & the chocolate factory Lore", ">\n\nReminds me of how in Boruto, the main ladies of Naruto took a collective pregnancy pact to birth children in the same year.", ">\n\nWhat the fuck", ">\n\nThat's not literally what happened.\nThe naruto cast just had children in the same class at the start of boruto. Which makes kind of sense because Naruto ends with a giant war and those make people have children historically but it's also obviously to have a story in which all the original characters are involved through their children.\nBut it's also so obviously contrived that people joke they all made a pact to get pregnant at the same time because otherwise it's too convenient that they all have children at close to the same age.", ">\n\nThe kids of Boruto are literal baby boomers", ">\n\nThe book is set in 1960s England… What else would they speak?", ">\n\nAre you implying minorities didn't exist back in the 60s? Especially after the war?", ">\n\nNo, they're implying that in a book written in English and probably set in either England or America, the characters all speaking English is not at all surprising.", ">\n\nYou're completely missing out on OP's point by trying to be a contrarian", ">\n\nNo, I'm pointing out that it's a children's book that was written in English and set in a country where English is by far the most commonly spoken language. So the fact that the main characters are mostly children who speak English is not surprising at all. Disagreeing is not the same as being contrarian.", ">\n\nYou are missing out on OP's point", ">\n\nPlease do tell, o enlightened one! What point am I missing exactly?", ">\n\nOr maybe they just didn’t ship the golden ticket chocolate bars to other countries… \nI doubt there we’re many people living in England who speak no English back in those days", ">\n\nAugustus Gloop was German, though? I mean, maybe he was a German immigrant who moved to England, but I was always under the impression that he lived in Germany based on his and his parents' accents.", ">\n\nAnd I thought Mike was the American. What with all the cowboy gear. Could be from anywhere I guess.", ">\n\nYou are seeking logic in a movie where a piece of gum turns a girl into a blueberry… let that sink in", ">\n\n\"I do say, that song & dance all seemed a bit rehearsed!\" (Best line from the remake.)", ">\n\nTLDW - \nBetween 12% and 24%\nThe range is caused when the definition of “white person/English speaking” is changed", ">\n\nI'll bet when you consider that globalization want a thing in the 1920s and you eliminate basically all of Asia, Africa, and South America considering an American candy company's distribution network. The British kid was from a wealthy family who spent insane amounts of money to find a ticket. \nThe the German kid is the most odd to me. How popular has American chocolate ever been in Germany? I'm guessing that is not very popular and that since his family only seemed relatively well off, a trip to America may have been a prohibitive expense due nothing more than a candy factory tour.\nEdit: TIL that the story took place in England (definitely at the forefront of globalization, even in the 1920s). So, that pretty much destroys the logic of my argument.", ">\n\nKid was also a chubster who inhaled sweets like air.", ">\n\nTo be fair English speaking countries tend to be richer therefore more kids there will buy more chocolate and therefore are more likely to get the tickets (Eg. Veruca buying hundreds of chocolates will give her a higher probability of landing a golden ticket than Charlie who can only afford one). \nBut yeah the fact that they’re children makes it rigged. Like I’m sure a teenager or even an adult would’ve gotten one because they bought chocolates too not just the kids.", ">\n\nWhat's strange is that one of those children wasn't an English speaker in real life and just learned the few lives he had to say in English without actually understanding everything.", ">\n\nI mean, it's a good way to murder your kids for insurance money and have a good alibi.", ">\n\nNot that convenient as britan is a white English speaking country it would be weird if it was different is what you meant to say 🤔", ">\n\nGrandpa Joe didn't get out of bed for 20 years. He let everyone take care of him. He decided he could walk again to see Wankas chocolate factory.", ">\n\nI still remember:\nteacher \"And all they had to eat every day was spinach\"\ngirl sitting on floor \"But I dont like spinach\"\nteacher looks down from book \"Then you would die.\"\nclass shocked picachu face\nme, in the back, cant hold back the laughter\nkid next to me looks over, What's your problem? written on his fucking kid face\ni cant speak... only laugh/cry", ">\n\nDidn't the film theory guy on YT calculate the odds of that happening?", ">\n\nAugustus Gloop wasn’t English. He was German. Don’t think he talked English at all.", ">\n\nIt's as convenient in England during that time period as it would be today if in Mexico they had something, and all the winners spoke Spanish. In other words, it's not suspiciously convenient at all.", ">\n\nThats all depends on where wonka sells his chocolate bars right?", ">\n\nSo you can suspend disbelief long enough to accept a factory with a chocolate river and candy plants but all the kids who found tickets speak the same language is just too much..", ">\n\nOf all the unreasonable events related to that story, you found the least one.", ">\n\nAugustus Gloop was from Germany.\nMike Teevee was from the USA.", ">\n\nI mean, it was America in the 1920s ... not a real inclusive time period. Not a lot of globalization going on in the 1920s, in America.\nEdit: 1920s England it seems ... so a fair bit more globalization than I'd assumed", ">\n\nPlenty of black people though.\nEdit: got those who can’t be bothered reading the stupid Reddit argument below, Charlie was originally written as black, and his family was dirt poor.", ">\n\nWhat do you think that the black population in the US (or any country that a British candy maker would have exported to in the 1920s for that matter) was in the 1920s?", ">\n\nAbout 10,000,000, according to Wikipedia." ]

[ "This is a friendly reminder to read our rules.\nRemember, /r/Showerthoughts is for showerthoughts, not \"thoughts had in the shower!\"\n(For an explanation of what a \"showerthought\" is, please read this page.)\nRule-breaking posts may result in bans.", ">\n\nI mean, one of them was German, and other than that it appeared to be a mix of British and American kids.", ">\n\nExactly. Put some respect on our bilingual king Augustus Gloop’s name OP! 🍫🇩🇪", ">\n\nFun fact! Did you know the actress who played his mother (Save some room for later!) was in a porn right around that time?", ">\n\nI didn't believe you, so I checked. This appears to be true!", ">\n\nI mean Michael Scott tried this and all the tickets went to the same company.", ">\n\nOmg maybe that episode was really just to shine light on the fact that there is a reason that all the tickets wound up going to the same demographic", ">\n\nNot really sure I’d consider Charlie Bucket and Veruca Salt as the same demographic.", ">\n\nPresumably old mate got confused between demographic and age bracket", ">\n\nAge is a demographic btw", ">\n\nOk. In the story, only Augustus Gloop and Mike Teavee are the same age (9), everyone else is a different age.\nBut why is it surprising that the main characters of a Roald Dahl Story are children? That’s kind of the point of all his children’s novels. \nThere is also almost always an element of magic, or at least the unexplained-possibly-paranormal in his books. In the novel, adults around the world searched like crazy for those tickets, but of course Wonka knows children will be the recipients because his factory, and indeed his candies, are made for children, and their imaginations. The tickets themselves were intended for children, never an adult.\nThe real convenience of it all lies in the the book being written for a target audience, and that audience is children… therefore, characters they relate to.", ">\n\nI wasn’t inherently disagreeing with you (I was responding to the person above who assumed you didn’t think age is a demographic), you can narrow the age demographic to whatever you want. I’d consider “children” to be a general age demographic, but if you want to split it up, that’s fair. \nUntil your response, I didn’t think you were referring to their age, but other points of their demographic profile (SES, culture, location, etc).", ">\n\nI’m sorry, I misunderstood! You are right in thinking I wasn’t referring to their age, btw. I agree they all fit an age demographic, but that’s hardly relevant compared to the social statuses Dahl has created for them.", ">\n\nIt's also incredibly convenient that Wonka's creepy-looking henchman was at the right time and place when all of them were discovered. Almost as if they were planted.", ">\n\nWell there was nothing \"incredibly convenient\" about the winners being English speakers. That was about 99% of the UK at the time.", ">\n\nBecause the only place willy wonkas factory shipped to was within the United Kingdoms borders?", ">\n\nExcept in the film (never read the book) it was implied Wonka’s chocolates shipped out all over the world. I mean, Augustus Gloop was Austrian/German.\nBut yeah, the fact that it was all children who got it would be statistically improbable.", ">\n\nMeh, more kids buy candy than adults, and every year there are more kids than adults.", ">\n\nRight, but the candy wasn’t the main prize. You got a lifetime supply of chocolate which could be sold hand over fist, which I’m sure plenty of adults considered in their quest to find the golden tickets. And plus an exclusive tour of the world’s most mysterious and profitable candy company would almost truly be a once in a lifetime event, and you’re telling me some rich celebrity wouldn’t swoop in and offer any one of those children $10mil cash for the golden ticket, just to have the prestige of going to Wonka’s factory? Just doesn’t add up.", ">\n\nTrue", ">\n\nHappy Cake Day, Jan", ">\n\nHappy what?", ">\n\nIt’s your cake day. Hence the little cake icon next to your username.", ">\n\nIt's because the thing was rigged from the start. Willy Wonka had no children of his own, so he was specifically looking for an heir to take over his empire.", ">\n\nAnd a few to murder.", ">\n\nAs you do", ">\n\nAs is tradition", ">\n\nAs You Were - LG", ">\n\nConsidering the children were all horrible can you think of the uproar on what nationality gets what arsehole behaviour.", ">\n\nI got the impression that Wonka had pretty elaborate plans for the kids, and selected them specifically to teach them lessons?", ">\n\nExactly. He chose Charlie, it was just the final test.", ">\n\nIn the gene wilder version, the candy store salesman admits he was hiding Wonka bars while they were auctioning for extreme prices. Why would a man in the business of selling candy for profit do that? Then, it's not until charlie says he wants to buy something for his grandfather that the candy seller chooses the type of bar for him, and that bar has the golden ticket. \nHe knew he had it, and was intentionally holding it for somebody who wasn't buying for themselves.", ">\n\nCharlie & the chocolate factory Lore", ">\n\nReminds me of how in Boruto, the main ladies of Naruto took a collective pregnancy pact to birth children in the same year.", ">\n\nWhat the fuck", ">\n\nThat's not literally what happened.\nThe naruto cast just had children in the same class at the start of boruto. Which makes kind of sense because Naruto ends with a giant war and those make people have children historically but it's also obviously to have a story in which all the original characters are involved through their children.\nBut it's also so obviously contrived that people joke they all made a pact to get pregnant at the same time because otherwise it's too convenient that they all have children at close to the same age.", ">\n\nThe kids of Boruto are literal baby boomers", ">\n\nThe book is set in 1960s England… What else would they speak?", ">\n\nAre you implying minorities didn't exist back in the 60s? Especially after the war?", ">\n\nNo, they're implying that in a book written in English and probably set in either England or America, the characters all speaking English is not at all surprising.", ">\n\nYou're completely missing out on OP's point by trying to be a contrarian", ">\n\nNo, I'm pointing out that it's a children's book that was written in English and set in a country where English is by far the most commonly spoken language. So the fact that the main characters are mostly children who speak English is not surprising at all. Disagreeing is not the same as being contrarian.", ">\n\nYou are missing out on OP's point", ">\n\nPlease do tell, o enlightened one! What point am I missing exactly?", ">\n\nOr maybe they just didn’t ship the golden ticket chocolate bars to other countries… \nI doubt there we’re many people living in England who speak no English back in those days", ">\n\nAugustus Gloop was German, though? I mean, maybe he was a German immigrant who moved to England, but I was always under the impression that he lived in Germany based on his and his parents' accents.", ">\n\nAnd I thought Mike was the American. What with all the cowboy gear. Could be from anywhere I guess.", ">\n\nYou are seeking logic in a movie where a piece of gum turns a girl into a blueberry… let that sink in", ">\n\n\"I do say, that song & dance all seemed a bit rehearsed!\" (Best line from the remake.)", ">\n\nTLDW - \nBetween 12% and 24%\nThe range is caused when the definition of “white person/English speaking” is changed", ">\n\nI'll bet when you consider that globalization want a thing in the 1920s and you eliminate basically all of Asia, Africa, and South America considering an American candy company's distribution network. The British kid was from a wealthy family who spent insane amounts of money to find a ticket. \nThe the German kid is the most odd to me. How popular has American chocolate ever been in Germany? I'm guessing that is not very popular and that since his family only seemed relatively well off, a trip to America may have been a prohibitive expense due nothing more than a candy factory tour.\nEdit: TIL that the story took place in England (definitely at the forefront of globalization, even in the 1920s). So, that pretty much destroys the logic of my argument.", ">\n\nKid was also a chubster who inhaled sweets like air.", ">\n\nTo be fair English speaking countries tend to be richer therefore more kids there will buy more chocolate and therefore are more likely to get the tickets (Eg. Veruca buying hundreds of chocolates will give her a higher probability of landing a golden ticket than Charlie who can only afford one). \nBut yeah the fact that they’re children makes it rigged. Like I’m sure a teenager or even an adult would’ve gotten one because they bought chocolates too not just the kids.", ">\n\nWhat's strange is that one of those children wasn't an English speaker in real life and just learned the few lives he had to say in English without actually understanding everything.", ">\n\nI mean, it's a good way to murder your kids for insurance money and have a good alibi.", ">\n\nNot that convenient as britan is a white English speaking country it would be weird if it was different is what you meant to say 🤔", ">\n\nGrandpa Joe didn't get out of bed for 20 years. He let everyone take care of him. He decided he could walk again to see Wankas chocolate factory.", ">\n\nI still remember:\nteacher \"And all they had to eat every day was spinach\"\ngirl sitting on floor \"But I dont like spinach\"\nteacher looks down from book \"Then you would die.\"\nclass shocked picachu face\nme, in the back, cant hold back the laughter\nkid next to me looks over, What's your problem? written on his fucking kid face\ni cant speak... only laugh/cry", ">\n\nDidn't the film theory guy on YT calculate the odds of that happening?", ">\n\nAugustus Gloop wasn’t English. He was German. Don’t think he talked English at all.", ">\n\nIt's as convenient in England during that time period as it would be today if in Mexico they had something, and all the winners spoke Spanish. In other words, it's not suspiciously convenient at all.", ">\n\nThats all depends on where wonka sells his chocolate bars right?", ">\n\nSo you can suspend disbelief long enough to accept a factory with a chocolate river and candy plants but all the kids who found tickets speak the same language is just too much..", ">\n\nOf all the unreasonable events related to that story, you found the least one.", ">\n\nAugustus Gloop was from Germany.\nMike Teevee was from the USA.", ">\n\nI mean, it was America in the 1920s ... not a real inclusive time period. Not a lot of globalization going on in the 1920s, in America.\nEdit: 1920s England it seems ... so a fair bit more globalization than I'd assumed", ">\n\nPlenty of black people though.\nEdit: got those who can’t be bothered reading the stupid Reddit argument below, Charlie was originally written as black, and his family was dirt poor.", ">\n\nWhat do you think that the black population in the US (or any country that a British candy maker would have exported to in the 1920s for that matter) was in the 1920s?", ">\n\nAbout 10,000,000, according to Wikipedia.", ">\n\nSounds right ... a little less than 10% of the population.\nAnd how; do you think, many were in a socioeconomic position to spend money on imported European chocolate." ]

[ "This is a friendly reminder to read our rules.\nRemember, /r/Showerthoughts is for showerthoughts, not \"thoughts had in the shower!\"\n(For an explanation of what a \"showerthought\" is, please read this page.)\nRule-breaking posts may result in bans.", ">\n\nI mean, one of them was German, and other than that it appeared to be a mix of British and American kids.", ">\n\nExactly. Put some respect on our bilingual king Augustus Gloop’s name OP! 🍫🇩🇪", ">\n\nFun fact! Did you know the actress who played his mother (Save some room for later!) was in a porn right around that time?", ">\n\nI didn't believe you, so I checked. This appears to be true!", ">\n\nI mean Michael Scott tried this and all the tickets went to the same company.", ">\n\nOmg maybe that episode was really just to shine light on the fact that there is a reason that all the tickets wound up going to the same demographic", ">\n\nNot really sure I’d consider Charlie Bucket and Veruca Salt as the same demographic.", ">\n\nPresumably old mate got confused between demographic and age bracket", ">\n\nAge is a demographic btw", ">\n\nOk. In the story, only Augustus Gloop and Mike Teavee are the same age (9), everyone else is a different age.\nBut why is it surprising that the main characters of a Roald Dahl Story are children? That’s kind of the point of all his children’s novels. \nThere is also almost always an element of magic, or at least the unexplained-possibly-paranormal in his books. In the novel, adults around the world searched like crazy for those tickets, but of course Wonka knows children will be the recipients because his factory, and indeed his candies, are made for children, and their imaginations. The tickets themselves were intended for children, never an adult.\nThe real convenience of it all lies in the the book being written for a target audience, and that audience is children… therefore, characters they relate to.", ">\n\nI wasn’t inherently disagreeing with you (I was responding to the person above who assumed you didn’t think age is a demographic), you can narrow the age demographic to whatever you want. I’d consider “children” to be a general age demographic, but if you want to split it up, that’s fair. \nUntil your response, I didn’t think you were referring to their age, but other points of their demographic profile (SES, culture, location, etc).", ">\n\nI’m sorry, I misunderstood! You are right in thinking I wasn’t referring to their age, btw. I agree they all fit an age demographic, but that’s hardly relevant compared to the social statuses Dahl has created for them.", ">\n\nIt's also incredibly convenient that Wonka's creepy-looking henchman was at the right time and place when all of them were discovered. Almost as if they were planted.", ">\n\nWell there was nothing \"incredibly convenient\" about the winners being English speakers. That was about 99% of the UK at the time.", ">\n\nBecause the only place willy wonkas factory shipped to was within the United Kingdoms borders?", ">\n\nExcept in the film (never read the book) it was implied Wonka’s chocolates shipped out all over the world. I mean, Augustus Gloop was Austrian/German.\nBut yeah, the fact that it was all children who got it would be statistically improbable.", ">\n\nMeh, more kids buy candy than adults, and every year there are more kids than adults.", ">\n\nRight, but the candy wasn’t the main prize. You got a lifetime supply of chocolate which could be sold hand over fist, which I’m sure plenty of adults considered in their quest to find the golden tickets. And plus an exclusive tour of the world’s most mysterious and profitable candy company would almost truly be a once in a lifetime event, and you’re telling me some rich celebrity wouldn’t swoop in and offer any one of those children $10mil cash for the golden ticket, just to have the prestige of going to Wonka’s factory? Just doesn’t add up.", ">\n\nTrue", ">\n\nHappy Cake Day, Jan", ">\n\nHappy what?", ">\n\nIt’s your cake day. Hence the little cake icon next to your username.", ">\n\nIt's because the thing was rigged from the start. Willy Wonka had no children of his own, so he was specifically looking for an heir to take over his empire.", ">\n\nAnd a few to murder.", ">\n\nAs you do", ">\n\nAs is tradition", ">\n\nAs You Were - LG", ">\n\nConsidering the children were all horrible can you think of the uproar on what nationality gets what arsehole behaviour.", ">\n\nI got the impression that Wonka had pretty elaborate plans for the kids, and selected them specifically to teach them lessons?", ">\n\nExactly. He chose Charlie, it was just the final test.", ">\n\nIn the gene wilder version, the candy store salesman admits he was hiding Wonka bars while they were auctioning for extreme prices. Why would a man in the business of selling candy for profit do that? Then, it's not until charlie says he wants to buy something for his grandfather that the candy seller chooses the type of bar for him, and that bar has the golden ticket. \nHe knew he had it, and was intentionally holding it for somebody who wasn't buying for themselves.", ">\n\nCharlie & the chocolate factory Lore", ">\n\nReminds me of how in Boruto, the main ladies of Naruto took a collective pregnancy pact to birth children in the same year.", ">\n\nWhat the fuck", ">\n\nThat's not literally what happened.\nThe naruto cast just had children in the same class at the start of boruto. Which makes kind of sense because Naruto ends with a giant war and those make people have children historically but it's also obviously to have a story in which all the original characters are involved through their children.\nBut it's also so obviously contrived that people joke they all made a pact to get pregnant at the same time because otherwise it's too convenient that they all have children at close to the same age.", ">\n\nThe kids of Boruto are literal baby boomers", ">\n\nThe book is set in 1960s England… What else would they speak?", ">\n\nAre you implying minorities didn't exist back in the 60s? Especially after the war?", ">\n\nNo, they're implying that in a book written in English and probably set in either England or America, the characters all speaking English is not at all surprising.", ">\n\nYou're completely missing out on OP's point by trying to be a contrarian", ">\n\nNo, I'm pointing out that it's a children's book that was written in English and set in a country where English is by far the most commonly spoken language. So the fact that the main characters are mostly children who speak English is not surprising at all. Disagreeing is not the same as being contrarian.", ">\n\nYou are missing out on OP's point", ">\n\nPlease do tell, o enlightened one! What point am I missing exactly?", ">\n\nOr maybe they just didn’t ship the golden ticket chocolate bars to other countries… \nI doubt there we’re many people living in England who speak no English back in those days", ">\n\nAugustus Gloop was German, though? I mean, maybe he was a German immigrant who moved to England, but I was always under the impression that he lived in Germany based on his and his parents' accents.", ">\n\nAnd I thought Mike was the American. What with all the cowboy gear. Could be from anywhere I guess.", ">\n\nYou are seeking logic in a movie where a piece of gum turns a girl into a blueberry… let that sink in", ">\n\n\"I do say, that song & dance all seemed a bit rehearsed!\" (Best line from the remake.)", ">\n\nTLDW - \nBetween 12% and 24%\nThe range is caused when the definition of “white person/English speaking” is changed", ">\n\nI'll bet when you consider that globalization want a thing in the 1920s and you eliminate basically all of Asia, Africa, and South America considering an American candy company's distribution network. The British kid was from a wealthy family who spent insane amounts of money to find a ticket. \nThe the German kid is the most odd to me. How popular has American chocolate ever been in Germany? I'm guessing that is not very popular and that since his family only seemed relatively well off, a trip to America may have been a prohibitive expense due nothing more than a candy factory tour.\nEdit: TIL that the story took place in England (definitely at the forefront of globalization, even in the 1920s). So, that pretty much destroys the logic of my argument.", ">\n\nKid was also a chubster who inhaled sweets like air.", ">\n\nTo be fair English speaking countries tend to be richer therefore more kids there will buy more chocolate and therefore are more likely to get the tickets (Eg. Veruca buying hundreds of chocolates will give her a higher probability of landing a golden ticket than Charlie who can only afford one). \nBut yeah the fact that they’re children makes it rigged. Like I’m sure a teenager or even an adult would’ve gotten one because they bought chocolates too not just the kids.", ">\n\nWhat's strange is that one of those children wasn't an English speaker in real life and just learned the few lives he had to say in English without actually understanding everything.", ">\n\nI mean, it's a good way to murder your kids for insurance money and have a good alibi.", ">\n\nNot that convenient as britan is a white English speaking country it would be weird if it was different is what you meant to say 🤔", ">\n\nGrandpa Joe didn't get out of bed for 20 years. He let everyone take care of him. He decided he could walk again to see Wankas chocolate factory.", ">\n\nI still remember:\nteacher \"And all they had to eat every day was spinach\"\ngirl sitting on floor \"But I dont like spinach\"\nteacher looks down from book \"Then you would die.\"\nclass shocked picachu face\nme, in the back, cant hold back the laughter\nkid next to me looks over, What's your problem? written on his fucking kid face\ni cant speak... only laugh/cry", ">\n\nDidn't the film theory guy on YT calculate the odds of that happening?", ">\n\nAugustus Gloop wasn’t English. He was German. Don’t think he talked English at all.", ">\n\nIt's as convenient in England during that time period as it would be today if in Mexico they had something, and all the winners spoke Spanish. In other words, it's not suspiciously convenient at all.", ">\n\nThats all depends on where wonka sells his chocolate bars right?", ">\n\nSo you can suspend disbelief long enough to accept a factory with a chocolate river and candy plants but all the kids who found tickets speak the same language is just too much..", ">\n\nOf all the unreasonable events related to that story, you found the least one.", ">\n\nAugustus Gloop was from Germany.\nMike Teevee was from the USA.", ">\n\nI mean, it was America in the 1920s ... not a real inclusive time period. Not a lot of globalization going on in the 1920s, in America.\nEdit: 1920s England it seems ... so a fair bit more globalization than I'd assumed", ">\n\nPlenty of black people though.\nEdit: got those who can’t be bothered reading the stupid Reddit argument below, Charlie was originally written as black, and his family was dirt poor.", ">\n\nWhat do you think that the black population in the US (or any country that a British candy maker would have exported to in the 1920s for that matter) was in the 1920s?", ">\n\nAbout 10,000,000, according to Wikipedia.", ">\n\nSounds right ... a little less than 10% of the population.\nAnd how; do you think, many were in a socioeconomic position to spend money on imported European chocolate.", ">\n\nWhy don’t you answer your own question? I was responding to your point about the lack of “globalization” in the US, not about purchasing power of black Americans in 1920." ]

[ "This is a friendly reminder to read our rules.\nRemember, /r/Showerthoughts is for showerthoughts, not \"thoughts had in the shower!\"\n(For an explanation of what a \"showerthought\" is, please read this page.)\nRule-breaking posts may result in bans.", ">\n\nI mean, one of them was German, and other than that it appeared to be a mix of British and American kids.", ">\n\nExactly. Put some respect on our bilingual king Augustus Gloop’s name OP! 🍫🇩🇪", ">\n\nFun fact! Did you know the actress who played his mother (Save some room for later!) was in a porn right around that time?", ">\n\nI didn't believe you, so I checked. This appears to be true!", ">\n\nI mean Michael Scott tried this and all the tickets went to the same company.", ">\n\nOmg maybe that episode was really just to shine light on the fact that there is a reason that all the tickets wound up going to the same demographic", ">\n\nNot really sure I’d consider Charlie Bucket and Veruca Salt as the same demographic.", ">\n\nPresumably old mate got confused between demographic and age bracket", ">\n\nAge is a demographic btw", ">\n\nOk. In the story, only Augustus Gloop and Mike Teavee are the same age (9), everyone else is a different age.\nBut why is it surprising that the main characters of a Roald Dahl Story are children? That’s kind of the point of all his children’s novels. \nThere is also almost always an element of magic, or at least the unexplained-possibly-paranormal in his books. In the novel, adults around the world searched like crazy for those tickets, but of course Wonka knows children will be the recipients because his factory, and indeed his candies, are made for children, and their imaginations. The tickets themselves were intended for children, never an adult.\nThe real convenience of it all lies in the the book being written for a target audience, and that audience is children… therefore, characters they relate to.", ">\n\nI wasn’t inherently disagreeing with you (I was responding to the person above who assumed you didn’t think age is a demographic), you can narrow the age demographic to whatever you want. I’d consider “children” to be a general age demographic, but if you want to split it up, that’s fair. \nUntil your response, I didn’t think you were referring to their age, but other points of their demographic profile (SES, culture, location, etc).", ">\n\nI’m sorry, I misunderstood! You are right in thinking I wasn’t referring to their age, btw. I agree they all fit an age demographic, but that’s hardly relevant compared to the social statuses Dahl has created for them.", ">\n\nIt's also incredibly convenient that Wonka's creepy-looking henchman was at the right time and place when all of them were discovered. Almost as if they were planted.", ">\n\nWell there was nothing \"incredibly convenient\" about the winners being English speakers. That was about 99% of the UK at the time.", ">\n\nBecause the only place willy wonkas factory shipped to was within the United Kingdoms borders?", ">\n\nExcept in the film (never read the book) it was implied Wonka’s chocolates shipped out all over the world. I mean, Augustus Gloop was Austrian/German.\nBut yeah, the fact that it was all children who got it would be statistically improbable.", ">\n\nMeh, more kids buy candy than adults, and every year there are more kids than adults.", ">\n\nRight, but the candy wasn’t the main prize. You got a lifetime supply of chocolate which could be sold hand over fist, which I’m sure plenty of adults considered in their quest to find the golden tickets. And plus an exclusive tour of the world’s most mysterious and profitable candy company would almost truly be a once in a lifetime event, and you’re telling me some rich celebrity wouldn’t swoop in and offer any one of those children $10mil cash for the golden ticket, just to have the prestige of going to Wonka’s factory? Just doesn’t add up.", ">\n\nTrue", ">\n\nHappy Cake Day, Jan", ">\n\nHappy what?", ">\n\nIt’s your cake day. Hence the little cake icon next to your username.", ">\n\nIt's because the thing was rigged from the start. Willy Wonka had no children of his own, so he was specifically looking for an heir to take over his empire.", ">\n\nAnd a few to murder.", ">\n\nAs you do", ">\n\nAs is tradition", ">\n\nAs You Were - LG", ">\n\nConsidering the children were all horrible can you think of the uproar on what nationality gets what arsehole behaviour.", ">\n\nI got the impression that Wonka had pretty elaborate plans for the kids, and selected them specifically to teach them lessons?", ">\n\nExactly. He chose Charlie, it was just the final test.", ">\n\nIn the gene wilder version, the candy store salesman admits he was hiding Wonka bars while they were auctioning for extreme prices. Why would a man in the business of selling candy for profit do that? Then, it's not until charlie says he wants to buy something for his grandfather that the candy seller chooses the type of bar for him, and that bar has the golden ticket. \nHe knew he had it, and was intentionally holding it for somebody who wasn't buying for themselves.", ">\n\nCharlie & the chocolate factory Lore", ">\n\nReminds me of how in Boruto, the main ladies of Naruto took a collective pregnancy pact to birth children in the same year.", ">\n\nWhat the fuck", ">\n\nThat's not literally what happened.\nThe naruto cast just had children in the same class at the start of boruto. Which makes kind of sense because Naruto ends with a giant war and those make people have children historically but it's also obviously to have a story in which all the original characters are involved through their children.\nBut it's also so obviously contrived that people joke they all made a pact to get pregnant at the same time because otherwise it's too convenient that they all have children at close to the same age.", ">\n\nThe kids of Boruto are literal baby boomers", ">\n\nThe book is set in 1960s England… What else would they speak?", ">\n\nAre you implying minorities didn't exist back in the 60s? Especially after the war?", ">\n\nNo, they're implying that in a book written in English and probably set in either England or America, the characters all speaking English is not at all surprising.", ">\n\nYou're completely missing out on OP's point by trying to be a contrarian", ">\n\nNo, I'm pointing out that it's a children's book that was written in English and set in a country where English is by far the most commonly spoken language. So the fact that the main characters are mostly children who speak English is not surprising at all. Disagreeing is not the same as being contrarian.", ">\n\nYou are missing out on OP's point", ">\n\nPlease do tell, o enlightened one! What point am I missing exactly?", ">\n\nOr maybe they just didn’t ship the golden ticket chocolate bars to other countries… \nI doubt there we’re many people living in England who speak no English back in those days", ">\n\nAugustus Gloop was German, though? I mean, maybe he was a German immigrant who moved to England, but I was always under the impression that he lived in Germany based on his and his parents' accents.", ">\n\nAnd I thought Mike was the American. What with all the cowboy gear. Could be from anywhere I guess.", ">\n\nYou are seeking logic in a movie where a piece of gum turns a girl into a blueberry… let that sink in", ">\n\n\"I do say, that song & dance all seemed a bit rehearsed!\" (Best line from the remake.)", ">\n\nTLDW - \nBetween 12% and 24%\nThe range is caused when the definition of “white person/English speaking” is changed", ">\n\nI'll bet when you consider that globalization want a thing in the 1920s and you eliminate basically all of Asia, Africa, and South America considering an American candy company's distribution network. The British kid was from a wealthy family who spent insane amounts of money to find a ticket. \nThe the German kid is the most odd to me. How popular has American chocolate ever been in Germany? I'm guessing that is not very popular and that since his family only seemed relatively well off, a trip to America may have been a prohibitive expense due nothing more than a candy factory tour.\nEdit: TIL that the story took place in England (definitely at the forefront of globalization, even in the 1920s). So, that pretty much destroys the logic of my argument.", ">\n\nKid was also a chubster who inhaled sweets like air.", ">\n\nTo be fair English speaking countries tend to be richer therefore more kids there will buy more chocolate and therefore are more likely to get the tickets (Eg. Veruca buying hundreds of chocolates will give her a higher probability of landing a golden ticket than Charlie who can only afford one). \nBut yeah the fact that they’re children makes it rigged. Like I’m sure a teenager or even an adult would’ve gotten one because they bought chocolates too not just the kids.", ">\n\nWhat's strange is that one of those children wasn't an English speaker in real life and just learned the few lives he had to say in English without actually understanding everything.", ">\n\nI mean, it's a good way to murder your kids for insurance money and have a good alibi.", ">\n\nNot that convenient as britan is a white English speaking country it would be weird if it was different is what you meant to say 🤔", ">\n\nGrandpa Joe didn't get out of bed for 20 years. He let everyone take care of him. He decided he could walk again to see Wankas chocolate factory.", ">\n\nI still remember:\nteacher \"And all they had to eat every day was spinach\"\ngirl sitting on floor \"But I dont like spinach\"\nteacher looks down from book \"Then you would die.\"\nclass shocked picachu face\nme, in the back, cant hold back the laughter\nkid next to me looks over, What's your problem? written on his fucking kid face\ni cant speak... only laugh/cry", ">\n\nDidn't the film theory guy on YT calculate the odds of that happening?", ">\n\nAugustus Gloop wasn’t English. He was German. Don’t think he talked English at all.", ">\n\nIt's as convenient in England during that time period as it would be today if in Mexico they had something, and all the winners spoke Spanish. In other words, it's not suspiciously convenient at all.", ">\n\nThats all depends on where wonka sells his chocolate bars right?", ">\n\nSo you can suspend disbelief long enough to accept a factory with a chocolate river and candy plants but all the kids who found tickets speak the same language is just too much..", ">\n\nOf all the unreasonable events related to that story, you found the least one.", ">\n\nAugustus Gloop was from Germany.\nMike Teevee was from the USA.", ">\n\nI mean, it was America in the 1920s ... not a real inclusive time period. Not a lot of globalization going on in the 1920s, in America.\nEdit: 1920s England it seems ... so a fair bit more globalization than I'd assumed", ">\n\nPlenty of black people though.\nEdit: got those who can’t be bothered reading the stupid Reddit argument below, Charlie was originally written as black, and his family was dirt poor.", ">\n\nWhat do you think that the black population in the US (or any country that a British candy maker would have exported to in the 1920s for that matter) was in the 1920s?", ">\n\nAbout 10,000,000, according to Wikipedia.", ">\n\nSounds right ... a little less than 10% of the population.\nAnd how; do you think, many were in a socioeconomic position to spend money on imported European chocolate.", ">\n\nWhy don’t you answer your own question? I was responding to your point about the lack of “globalization” in the US, not about purchasing power of black Americans in 1920.", ">\n\nNo, you're were taking a position to insinuate that I was taking a position. So that you could seem or just feel superior in the \"great virtue\" that comes with micro-focusing on meaningless and disjointed facts out of context on your socials, because no one usually objects or bothers to call you out on your bullshit. \nMy next point would've been about how familiar with the black experience in 1920s America, do you think that Roald Dahl (a British writer in the 1960s) was, to be able to confidently include that in his book." ]

[ "This is a friendly reminder to read our rules.\nRemember, /r/Showerthoughts is for showerthoughts, not \"thoughts had in the shower!\"\n(For an explanation of what a \"showerthought\" is, please read this page.)\nRule-breaking posts may result in bans.", ">\n\nI mean, one of them was German, and other than that it appeared to be a mix of British and American kids.", ">\n\nExactly. Put some respect on our bilingual king Augustus Gloop’s name OP! 🍫🇩🇪", ">\n\nFun fact! Did you know the actress who played his mother (Save some room for later!) was in a porn right around that time?", ">\n\nI didn't believe you, so I checked. This appears to be true!", ">\n\nI mean Michael Scott tried this and all the tickets went to the same company.", ">\n\nOmg maybe that episode was really just to shine light on the fact that there is a reason that all the tickets wound up going to the same demographic", ">\n\nNot really sure I’d consider Charlie Bucket and Veruca Salt as the same demographic.", ">\n\nPresumably old mate got confused between demographic and age bracket", ">\n\nAge is a demographic btw", ">\n\nOk. In the story, only Augustus Gloop and Mike Teavee are the same age (9), everyone else is a different age.\nBut why is it surprising that the main characters of a Roald Dahl Story are children? That’s kind of the point of all his children’s novels. \nThere is also almost always an element of magic, or at least the unexplained-possibly-paranormal in his books. In the novel, adults around the world searched like crazy for those tickets, but of course Wonka knows children will be the recipients because his factory, and indeed his candies, are made for children, and their imaginations. The tickets themselves were intended for children, never an adult.\nThe real convenience of it all lies in the the book being written for a target audience, and that audience is children… therefore, characters they relate to.", ">\n\nI wasn’t inherently disagreeing with you (I was responding to the person above who assumed you didn’t think age is a demographic), you can narrow the age demographic to whatever you want. I’d consider “children” to be a general age demographic, but if you want to split it up, that’s fair. \nUntil your response, I didn’t think you were referring to their age, but other points of their demographic profile (SES, culture, location, etc).", ">\n\nI’m sorry, I misunderstood! You are right in thinking I wasn’t referring to their age, btw. I agree they all fit an age demographic, but that’s hardly relevant compared to the social statuses Dahl has created for them.", ">\n\nIt's also incredibly convenient that Wonka's creepy-looking henchman was at the right time and place when all of them were discovered. Almost as if they were planted.", ">\n\nWell there was nothing \"incredibly convenient\" about the winners being English speakers. That was about 99% of the UK at the time.", ">\n\nBecause the only place willy wonkas factory shipped to was within the United Kingdoms borders?", ">\n\nExcept in the film (never read the book) it was implied Wonka’s chocolates shipped out all over the world. I mean, Augustus Gloop was Austrian/German.\nBut yeah, the fact that it was all children who got it would be statistically improbable.", ">\n\nMeh, more kids buy candy than adults, and every year there are more kids than adults.", ">\n\nRight, but the candy wasn’t the main prize. You got a lifetime supply of chocolate which could be sold hand over fist, which I’m sure plenty of adults considered in their quest to find the golden tickets. And plus an exclusive tour of the world’s most mysterious and profitable candy company would almost truly be a once in a lifetime event, and you’re telling me some rich celebrity wouldn’t swoop in and offer any one of those children $10mil cash for the golden ticket, just to have the prestige of going to Wonka’s factory? Just doesn’t add up.", ">\n\nTrue", ">\n\nHappy Cake Day, Jan", ">\n\nHappy what?", ">\n\nIt’s your cake day. Hence the little cake icon next to your username.", ">\n\nIt's because the thing was rigged from the start. Willy Wonka had no children of his own, so he was specifically looking for an heir to take over his empire.", ">\n\nAnd a few to murder.", ">\n\nAs you do", ">\n\nAs is tradition", ">\n\nAs You Were - LG", ">\n\nConsidering the children were all horrible can you think of the uproar on what nationality gets what arsehole behaviour.", ">\n\nI got the impression that Wonka had pretty elaborate plans for the kids, and selected them specifically to teach them lessons?", ">\n\nExactly. He chose Charlie, it was just the final test.", ">\n\nIn the gene wilder version, the candy store salesman admits he was hiding Wonka bars while they were auctioning for extreme prices. Why would a man in the business of selling candy for profit do that? Then, it's not until charlie says he wants to buy something for his grandfather that the candy seller chooses the type of bar for him, and that bar has the golden ticket. \nHe knew he had it, and was intentionally holding it for somebody who wasn't buying for themselves.", ">\n\nCharlie & the chocolate factory Lore", ">\n\nReminds me of how in Boruto, the main ladies of Naruto took a collective pregnancy pact to birth children in the same year.", ">\n\nWhat the fuck", ">\n\nThat's not literally what happened.\nThe naruto cast just had children in the same class at the start of boruto. Which makes kind of sense because Naruto ends with a giant war and those make people have children historically but it's also obviously to have a story in which all the original characters are involved through their children.\nBut it's also so obviously contrived that people joke they all made a pact to get pregnant at the same time because otherwise it's too convenient that they all have children at close to the same age.", ">\n\nThe kids of Boruto are literal baby boomers", ">\n\nThe book is set in 1960s England… What else would they speak?", ">\n\nAre you implying minorities didn't exist back in the 60s? Especially after the war?", ">\n\nNo, they're implying that in a book written in English and probably set in either England or America, the characters all speaking English is not at all surprising.", ">\n\nYou're completely missing out on OP's point by trying to be a contrarian", ">\n\nNo, I'm pointing out that it's a children's book that was written in English and set in a country where English is by far the most commonly spoken language. So the fact that the main characters are mostly children who speak English is not surprising at all. Disagreeing is not the same as being contrarian.", ">\n\nYou are missing out on OP's point", ">\n\nPlease do tell, o enlightened one! What point am I missing exactly?", ">\n\nOr maybe they just didn’t ship the golden ticket chocolate bars to other countries… \nI doubt there we’re many people living in England who speak no English back in those days", ">\n\nAugustus Gloop was German, though? I mean, maybe he was a German immigrant who moved to England, but I was always under the impression that he lived in Germany based on his and his parents' accents.", ">\n\nAnd I thought Mike was the American. What with all the cowboy gear. Could be from anywhere I guess.", ">\n\nYou are seeking logic in a movie where a piece of gum turns a girl into a blueberry… let that sink in", ">\n\n\"I do say, that song & dance all seemed a bit rehearsed!\" (Best line from the remake.)", ">\n\nTLDW - \nBetween 12% and 24%\nThe range is caused when the definition of “white person/English speaking” is changed", ">\n\nI'll bet when you consider that globalization want a thing in the 1920s and you eliminate basically all of Asia, Africa, and South America considering an American candy company's distribution network. The British kid was from a wealthy family who spent insane amounts of money to find a ticket. \nThe the German kid is the most odd to me. How popular has American chocolate ever been in Germany? I'm guessing that is not very popular and that since his family only seemed relatively well off, a trip to America may have been a prohibitive expense due nothing more than a candy factory tour.\nEdit: TIL that the story took place in England (definitely at the forefront of globalization, even in the 1920s). So, that pretty much destroys the logic of my argument.", ">\n\nKid was also a chubster who inhaled sweets like air.", ">\n\nTo be fair English speaking countries tend to be richer therefore more kids there will buy more chocolate and therefore are more likely to get the tickets (Eg. Veruca buying hundreds of chocolates will give her a higher probability of landing a golden ticket than Charlie who can only afford one). \nBut yeah the fact that they’re children makes it rigged. Like I’m sure a teenager or even an adult would’ve gotten one because they bought chocolates too not just the kids.", ">\n\nWhat's strange is that one of those children wasn't an English speaker in real life and just learned the few lives he had to say in English without actually understanding everything.", ">\n\nI mean, it's a good way to murder your kids for insurance money and have a good alibi.", ">\n\nNot that convenient as britan is a white English speaking country it would be weird if it was different is what you meant to say 🤔", ">\n\nGrandpa Joe didn't get out of bed for 20 years. He let everyone take care of him. He decided he could walk again to see Wankas chocolate factory.", ">\n\nI still remember:\nteacher \"And all they had to eat every day was spinach\"\ngirl sitting on floor \"But I dont like spinach\"\nteacher looks down from book \"Then you would die.\"\nclass shocked picachu face\nme, in the back, cant hold back the laughter\nkid next to me looks over, What's your problem? written on his fucking kid face\ni cant speak... only laugh/cry", ">\n\nDidn't the film theory guy on YT calculate the odds of that happening?", ">\n\nAugustus Gloop wasn’t English. He was German. Don’t think he talked English at all.", ">\n\nIt's as convenient in England during that time period as it would be today if in Mexico they had something, and all the winners spoke Spanish. In other words, it's not suspiciously convenient at all.", ">\n\nThats all depends on where wonka sells his chocolate bars right?", ">\n\nSo you can suspend disbelief long enough to accept a factory with a chocolate river and candy plants but all the kids who found tickets speak the same language is just too much..", ">\n\nOf all the unreasonable events related to that story, you found the least one.", ">\n\nAugustus Gloop was from Germany.\nMike Teevee was from the USA.", ">\n\nI mean, it was America in the 1920s ... not a real inclusive time period. Not a lot of globalization going on in the 1920s, in America.\nEdit: 1920s England it seems ... so a fair bit more globalization than I'd assumed", ">\n\nPlenty of black people though.\nEdit: got those who can’t be bothered reading the stupid Reddit argument below, Charlie was originally written as black, and his family was dirt poor.", ">\n\nWhat do you think that the black population in the US (or any country that a British candy maker would have exported to in the 1920s for that matter) was in the 1920s?", ">\n\nAbout 10,000,000, according to Wikipedia.", ">\n\nSounds right ... a little less than 10% of the population.\nAnd how; do you think, many were in a socioeconomic position to spend money on imported European chocolate.", ">\n\nWhy don’t you answer your own question? I was responding to your point about the lack of “globalization” in the US, not about purchasing power of black Americans in 1920.", ">\n\nNo, you're were taking a position to insinuate that I was taking a position. So that you could seem or just feel superior in the \"great virtue\" that comes with micro-focusing on meaningless and disjointed facts out of context on your socials, because no one usually objects or bothers to call you out on your bullshit. \nMy next point would've been about how familiar with the black experience in 1920s America, do you think that Roald Dahl (a British writer in the 1960s) was, to be able to confidently include that in his book.", ">\n\npaywall" ]

[ "This is a friendly reminder to read our rules.\nRemember, /r/Showerthoughts is for showerthoughts, not \"thoughts had in the shower!\"\n(For an explanation of what a \"showerthought\" is, please read this page.)\nRule-breaking posts may result in bans.", ">\n\nI mean, one of them was German, and other than that it appeared to be a mix of British and American kids.", ">\n\nExactly. Put some respect on our bilingual king Augustus Gloop’s name OP! 🍫🇩🇪", ">\n\nFun fact! Did you know the actress who played his mother (Save some room for later!) was in a porn right around that time?", ">\n\nI didn't believe you, so I checked. This appears to be true!", ">\n\nI mean Michael Scott tried this and all the tickets went to the same company.", ">\n\nOmg maybe that episode was really just to shine light on the fact that there is a reason that all the tickets wound up going to the same demographic", ">\n\nNot really sure I’d consider Charlie Bucket and Veruca Salt as the same demographic.", ">\n\nPresumably old mate got confused between demographic and age bracket", ">\n\nAge is a demographic btw", ">\n\nOk. In the story, only Augustus Gloop and Mike Teavee are the same age (9), everyone else is a different age.\nBut why is it surprising that the main characters of a Roald Dahl Story are children? That’s kind of the point of all his children’s novels. \nThere is also almost always an element of magic, or at least the unexplained-possibly-paranormal in his books. In the novel, adults around the world searched like crazy for those tickets, but of course Wonka knows children will be the recipients because his factory, and indeed his candies, are made for children, and their imaginations. The tickets themselves were intended for children, never an adult.\nThe real convenience of it all lies in the the book being written for a target audience, and that audience is children… therefore, characters they relate to.", ">\n\nI wasn’t inherently disagreeing with you (I was responding to the person above who assumed you didn’t think age is a demographic), you can narrow the age demographic to whatever you want. I’d consider “children” to be a general age demographic, but if you want to split it up, that’s fair. \nUntil your response, I didn’t think you were referring to their age, but other points of their demographic profile (SES, culture, location, etc).", ">\n\nI’m sorry, I misunderstood! You are right in thinking I wasn’t referring to their age, btw. I agree they all fit an age demographic, but that’s hardly relevant compared to the social statuses Dahl has created for them.", ">\n\nIt's also incredibly convenient that Wonka's creepy-looking henchman was at the right time and place when all of them were discovered. Almost as if they were planted.", ">\n\nWell there was nothing \"incredibly convenient\" about the winners being English speakers. That was about 99% of the UK at the time.", ">\n\nBecause the only place willy wonkas factory shipped to was within the United Kingdoms borders?", ">\n\nExcept in the film (never read the book) it was implied Wonka’s chocolates shipped out all over the world. I mean, Augustus Gloop was Austrian/German.\nBut yeah, the fact that it was all children who got it would be statistically improbable.", ">\n\nMeh, more kids buy candy than adults, and every year there are more kids than adults.", ">\n\nRight, but the candy wasn’t the main prize. You got a lifetime supply of chocolate which could be sold hand over fist, which I’m sure plenty of adults considered in their quest to find the golden tickets. And plus an exclusive tour of the world’s most mysterious and profitable candy company would almost truly be a once in a lifetime event, and you’re telling me some rich celebrity wouldn’t swoop in and offer any one of those children $10mil cash for the golden ticket, just to have the prestige of going to Wonka’s factory? Just doesn’t add up.", ">\n\nTrue", ">\n\nHappy Cake Day, Jan", ">\n\nHappy what?", ">\n\nIt’s your cake day. Hence the little cake icon next to your username.", ">\n\nIt's because the thing was rigged from the start. Willy Wonka had no children of his own, so he was specifically looking for an heir to take over his empire.", ">\n\nAnd a few to murder.", ">\n\nAs you do", ">\n\nAs is tradition", ">\n\nAs You Were - LG", ">\n\nConsidering the children were all horrible can you think of the uproar on what nationality gets what arsehole behaviour.", ">\n\nI got the impression that Wonka had pretty elaborate plans for the kids, and selected them specifically to teach them lessons?", ">\n\nExactly. He chose Charlie, it was just the final test.", ">\n\nIn the gene wilder version, the candy store salesman admits he was hiding Wonka bars while they were auctioning for extreme prices. Why would a man in the business of selling candy for profit do that? Then, it's not until charlie says he wants to buy something for his grandfather that the candy seller chooses the type of bar for him, and that bar has the golden ticket. \nHe knew he had it, and was intentionally holding it for somebody who wasn't buying for themselves.", ">\n\nCharlie & the chocolate factory Lore", ">\n\nReminds me of how in Boruto, the main ladies of Naruto took a collective pregnancy pact to birth children in the same year.", ">\n\nWhat the fuck", ">\n\nThat's not literally what happened.\nThe naruto cast just had children in the same class at the start of boruto. Which makes kind of sense because Naruto ends with a giant war and those make people have children historically but it's also obviously to have a story in which all the original characters are involved through their children.\nBut it's also so obviously contrived that people joke they all made a pact to get pregnant at the same time because otherwise it's too convenient that they all have children at close to the same age.", ">\n\nThe kids of Boruto are literal baby boomers", ">\n\nThe book is set in 1960s England… What else would they speak?", ">\n\nAre you implying minorities didn't exist back in the 60s? Especially after the war?", ">\n\nNo, they're implying that in a book written in English and probably set in either England or America, the characters all speaking English is not at all surprising.", ">\n\nYou're completely missing out on OP's point by trying to be a contrarian", ">\n\nNo, I'm pointing out that it's a children's book that was written in English and set in a country where English is by far the most commonly spoken language. So the fact that the main characters are mostly children who speak English is not surprising at all. Disagreeing is not the same as being contrarian.", ">\n\nYou are missing out on OP's point", ">\n\nPlease do tell, o enlightened one! What point am I missing exactly?", ">\n\nOr maybe they just didn’t ship the golden ticket chocolate bars to other countries… \nI doubt there we’re many people living in England who speak no English back in those days", ">\n\nAugustus Gloop was German, though? I mean, maybe he was a German immigrant who moved to England, but I was always under the impression that he lived in Germany based on his and his parents' accents.", ">\n\nAnd I thought Mike was the American. What with all the cowboy gear. Could be from anywhere I guess.", ">\n\nYou are seeking logic in a movie where a piece of gum turns a girl into a blueberry… let that sink in", ">\n\n\"I do say, that song & dance all seemed a bit rehearsed!\" (Best line from the remake.)", ">\n\nTLDW - \nBetween 12% and 24%\nThe range is caused when the definition of “white person/English speaking” is changed", ">\n\nI'll bet when you consider that globalization want a thing in the 1920s and you eliminate basically all of Asia, Africa, and South America considering an American candy company's distribution network. The British kid was from a wealthy family who spent insane amounts of money to find a ticket. \nThe the German kid is the most odd to me. How popular has American chocolate ever been in Germany? I'm guessing that is not very popular and that since his family only seemed relatively well off, a trip to America may have been a prohibitive expense due nothing more than a candy factory tour.\nEdit: TIL that the story took place in England (definitely at the forefront of globalization, even in the 1920s). So, that pretty much destroys the logic of my argument.", ">\n\nKid was also a chubster who inhaled sweets like air.", ">\n\nTo be fair English speaking countries tend to be richer therefore more kids there will buy more chocolate and therefore are more likely to get the tickets (Eg. Veruca buying hundreds of chocolates will give her a higher probability of landing a golden ticket than Charlie who can only afford one). \nBut yeah the fact that they’re children makes it rigged. Like I’m sure a teenager or even an adult would’ve gotten one because they bought chocolates too not just the kids.", ">\n\nWhat's strange is that one of those children wasn't an English speaker in real life and just learned the few lives he had to say in English without actually understanding everything.", ">\n\nI mean, it's a good way to murder your kids for insurance money and have a good alibi.", ">\n\nNot that convenient as britan is a white English speaking country it would be weird if it was different is what you meant to say 🤔", ">\n\nGrandpa Joe didn't get out of bed for 20 years. He let everyone take care of him. He decided he could walk again to see Wankas chocolate factory.", ">\n\nI still remember:\nteacher \"And all they had to eat every day was spinach\"\ngirl sitting on floor \"But I dont like spinach\"\nteacher looks down from book \"Then you would die.\"\nclass shocked picachu face\nme, in the back, cant hold back the laughter\nkid next to me looks over, What's your problem? written on his fucking kid face\ni cant speak... only laugh/cry", ">\n\nDidn't the film theory guy on YT calculate the odds of that happening?", ">\n\nAugustus Gloop wasn’t English. He was German. Don’t think he talked English at all.", ">\n\nIt's as convenient in England during that time period as it would be today if in Mexico they had something, and all the winners spoke Spanish. In other words, it's not suspiciously convenient at all.", ">\n\nThats all depends on where wonka sells his chocolate bars right?", ">\n\nSo you can suspend disbelief long enough to accept a factory with a chocolate river and candy plants but all the kids who found tickets speak the same language is just too much..", ">\n\nOf all the unreasonable events related to that story, you found the least one.", ">\n\nAugustus Gloop was from Germany.\nMike Teevee was from the USA.", ">\n\nI mean, it was America in the 1920s ... not a real inclusive time period. Not a lot of globalization going on in the 1920s, in America.\nEdit: 1920s England it seems ... so a fair bit more globalization than I'd assumed", ">\n\nPlenty of black people though.\nEdit: got those who can’t be bothered reading the stupid Reddit argument below, Charlie was originally written as black, and his family was dirt poor.", ">\n\nWhat do you think that the black population in the US (or any country that a British candy maker would have exported to in the 1920s for that matter) was in the 1920s?", ">\n\nAbout 10,000,000, according to Wikipedia.", ">\n\nSounds right ... a little less than 10% of the population.\nAnd how; do you think, many were in a socioeconomic position to spend money on imported European chocolate.", ">\n\nWhy don’t you answer your own question? I was responding to your point about the lack of “globalization” in the US, not about purchasing power of black Americans in 1920.", ">\n\nNo, you're were taking a position to insinuate that I was taking a position. So that you could seem or just feel superior in the \"great virtue\" that comes with micro-focusing on meaningless and disjointed facts out of context on your socials, because no one usually objects or bothers to call you out on your bullshit. \nMy next point would've been about how familiar with the black experience in 1920s America, do you think that Roald Dahl (a British writer in the 1960s) was, to be able to confidently include that in his book.", ">\n\npaywall", ">\n\nYour point is taken, but it was four kids of the same age, and one peanut-sheller trying to keep a terrible job." ]

[ "This is a friendly reminder to read our rules.\nRemember, /r/Showerthoughts is for showerthoughts, not \"thoughts had in the shower!\"\n(For an explanation of what a \"showerthought\" is, please read this page.)\nRule-breaking posts may result in bans.", ">\n\nI mean, one of them was German, and other than that it appeared to be a mix of British and American kids.", ">\n\nExactly. Put some respect on our bilingual king Augustus Gloop’s name OP! 🍫🇩🇪", ">\n\nFun fact! Did you know the actress who played his mother (Save some room for later!) was in a porn right around that time?", ">\n\nI didn't believe you, so I checked. This appears to be true!", ">\n\nI mean Michael Scott tried this and all the tickets went to the same company.", ">\n\nOmg maybe that episode was really just to shine light on the fact that there is a reason that all the tickets wound up going to the same demographic", ">\n\nNot really sure I’d consider Charlie Bucket and Veruca Salt as the same demographic.", ">\n\nPresumably old mate got confused between demographic and age bracket", ">\n\nAge is a demographic btw", ">\n\nOk. In the story, only Augustus Gloop and Mike Teavee are the same age (9), everyone else is a different age.\nBut why is it surprising that the main characters of a Roald Dahl Story are children? That’s kind of the point of all his children’s novels. \nThere is also almost always an element of magic, or at least the unexplained-possibly-paranormal in his books. In the novel, adults around the world searched like crazy for those tickets, but of course Wonka knows children will be the recipients because his factory, and indeed his candies, are made for children, and their imaginations. The tickets themselves were intended for children, never an adult.\nThe real convenience of it all lies in the the book being written for a target audience, and that audience is children… therefore, characters they relate to.", ">\n\nI wasn’t inherently disagreeing with you (I was responding to the person above who assumed you didn’t think age is a demographic), you can narrow the age demographic to whatever you want. I’d consider “children” to be a general age demographic, but if you want to split it up, that’s fair. \nUntil your response, I didn’t think you were referring to their age, but other points of their demographic profile (SES, culture, location, etc).", ">\n\nI’m sorry, I misunderstood! You are right in thinking I wasn’t referring to their age, btw. I agree they all fit an age demographic, but that’s hardly relevant compared to the social statuses Dahl has created for them.", ">\n\nIt's also incredibly convenient that Wonka's creepy-looking henchman was at the right time and place when all of them were discovered. Almost as if they were planted.", ">\n\nWell there was nothing \"incredibly convenient\" about the winners being English speakers. That was about 99% of the UK at the time.", ">\n\nBecause the only place willy wonkas factory shipped to was within the United Kingdoms borders?", ">\n\nExcept in the film (never read the book) it was implied Wonka’s chocolates shipped out all over the world. I mean, Augustus Gloop was Austrian/German.\nBut yeah, the fact that it was all children who got it would be statistically improbable.", ">\n\nMeh, more kids buy candy than adults, and every year there are more kids than adults.", ">\n\nRight, but the candy wasn’t the main prize. You got a lifetime supply of chocolate which could be sold hand over fist, which I’m sure plenty of adults considered in their quest to find the golden tickets. And plus an exclusive tour of the world’s most mysterious and profitable candy company would almost truly be a once in a lifetime event, and you’re telling me some rich celebrity wouldn’t swoop in and offer any one of those children $10mil cash for the golden ticket, just to have the prestige of going to Wonka’s factory? Just doesn’t add up.", ">\n\nTrue", ">\n\nHappy Cake Day, Jan", ">\n\nHappy what?", ">\n\nIt’s your cake day. Hence the little cake icon next to your username.", ">\n\nIt's because the thing was rigged from the start. Willy Wonka had no children of his own, so he was specifically looking for an heir to take over his empire.", ">\n\nAnd a few to murder.", ">\n\nAs you do", ">\n\nAs is tradition", ">\n\nAs You Were - LG", ">\n\nConsidering the children were all horrible can you think of the uproar on what nationality gets what arsehole behaviour.", ">\n\nI got the impression that Wonka had pretty elaborate plans for the kids, and selected them specifically to teach them lessons?", ">\n\nExactly. He chose Charlie, it was just the final test.", ">\n\nIn the gene wilder version, the candy store salesman admits he was hiding Wonka bars while they were auctioning for extreme prices. Why would a man in the business of selling candy for profit do that? Then, it's not until charlie says he wants to buy something for his grandfather that the candy seller chooses the type of bar for him, and that bar has the golden ticket. \nHe knew he had it, and was intentionally holding it for somebody who wasn't buying for themselves.", ">\n\nCharlie & the chocolate factory Lore", ">\n\nReminds me of how in Boruto, the main ladies of Naruto took a collective pregnancy pact to birth children in the same year.", ">\n\nWhat the fuck", ">\n\nThat's not literally what happened.\nThe naruto cast just had children in the same class at the start of boruto. Which makes kind of sense because Naruto ends with a giant war and those make people have children historically but it's also obviously to have a story in which all the original characters are involved through their children.\nBut it's also so obviously contrived that people joke they all made a pact to get pregnant at the same time because otherwise it's too convenient that they all have children at close to the same age.", ">\n\nThe kids of Boruto are literal baby boomers", ">\n\nThe book is set in 1960s England… What else would they speak?", ">\n\nAre you implying minorities didn't exist back in the 60s? Especially after the war?", ">\n\nNo, they're implying that in a book written in English and probably set in either England or America, the characters all speaking English is not at all surprising.", ">\n\nYou're completely missing out on OP's point by trying to be a contrarian", ">\n\nNo, I'm pointing out that it's a children's book that was written in English and set in a country where English is by far the most commonly spoken language. So the fact that the main characters are mostly children who speak English is not surprising at all. Disagreeing is not the same as being contrarian.", ">\n\nYou are missing out on OP's point", ">\n\nPlease do tell, o enlightened one! What point am I missing exactly?", ">\n\nOr maybe they just didn’t ship the golden ticket chocolate bars to other countries… \nI doubt there we’re many people living in England who speak no English back in those days", ">\n\nAugustus Gloop was German, though? I mean, maybe he was a German immigrant who moved to England, but I was always under the impression that he lived in Germany based on his and his parents' accents.", ">\n\nAnd I thought Mike was the American. What with all the cowboy gear. Could be from anywhere I guess.", ">\n\nYou are seeking logic in a movie where a piece of gum turns a girl into a blueberry… let that sink in", ">\n\n\"I do say, that song & dance all seemed a bit rehearsed!\" (Best line from the remake.)", ">\n\nTLDW - \nBetween 12% and 24%\nThe range is caused when the definition of “white person/English speaking” is changed", ">\n\nI'll bet when you consider that globalization want a thing in the 1920s and you eliminate basically all of Asia, Africa, and South America considering an American candy company's distribution network. The British kid was from a wealthy family who spent insane amounts of money to find a ticket. \nThe the German kid is the most odd to me. How popular has American chocolate ever been in Germany? I'm guessing that is not very popular and that since his family only seemed relatively well off, a trip to America may have been a prohibitive expense due nothing more than a candy factory tour.\nEdit: TIL that the story took place in England (definitely at the forefront of globalization, even in the 1920s). So, that pretty much destroys the logic of my argument.", ">\n\nKid was also a chubster who inhaled sweets like air.", ">\n\nTo be fair English speaking countries tend to be richer therefore more kids there will buy more chocolate and therefore are more likely to get the tickets (Eg. Veruca buying hundreds of chocolates will give her a higher probability of landing a golden ticket than Charlie who can only afford one). \nBut yeah the fact that they’re children makes it rigged. Like I’m sure a teenager or even an adult would’ve gotten one because they bought chocolates too not just the kids.", ">\n\nWhat's strange is that one of those children wasn't an English speaker in real life and just learned the few lives he had to say in English without actually understanding everything.", ">\n\nI mean, it's a good way to murder your kids for insurance money and have a good alibi.", ">\n\nNot that convenient as britan is a white English speaking country it would be weird if it was different is what you meant to say 🤔", ">\n\nGrandpa Joe didn't get out of bed for 20 years. He let everyone take care of him. He decided he could walk again to see Wankas chocolate factory.", ">\n\nI still remember:\nteacher \"And all they had to eat every day was spinach\"\ngirl sitting on floor \"But I dont like spinach\"\nteacher looks down from book \"Then you would die.\"\nclass shocked picachu face\nme, in the back, cant hold back the laughter\nkid next to me looks over, What's your problem? written on his fucking kid face\ni cant speak... only laugh/cry", ">\n\nDidn't the film theory guy on YT calculate the odds of that happening?", ">\n\nAugustus Gloop wasn’t English. He was German. Don’t think he talked English at all.", ">\n\nIt's as convenient in England during that time period as it would be today if in Mexico they had something, and all the winners spoke Spanish. In other words, it's not suspiciously convenient at all.", ">\n\nThats all depends on where wonka sells his chocolate bars right?", ">\n\nSo you can suspend disbelief long enough to accept a factory with a chocolate river and candy plants but all the kids who found tickets speak the same language is just too much..", ">\n\nOf all the unreasonable events related to that story, you found the least one.", ">\n\nAugustus Gloop was from Germany.\nMike Teevee was from the USA.", ">\n\nI mean, it was America in the 1920s ... not a real inclusive time period. Not a lot of globalization going on in the 1920s, in America.\nEdit: 1920s England it seems ... so a fair bit more globalization than I'd assumed", ">\n\nPlenty of black people though.\nEdit: got those who can’t be bothered reading the stupid Reddit argument below, Charlie was originally written as black, and his family was dirt poor.", ">\n\nWhat do you think that the black population in the US (or any country that a British candy maker would have exported to in the 1920s for that matter) was in the 1920s?", ">\n\nAbout 10,000,000, according to Wikipedia.", ">\n\nSounds right ... a little less than 10% of the population.\nAnd how; do you think, many were in a socioeconomic position to spend money on imported European chocolate.", ">\n\nWhy don’t you answer your own question? I was responding to your point about the lack of “globalization” in the US, not about purchasing power of black Americans in 1920.", ">\n\nNo, you're were taking a position to insinuate that I was taking a position. So that you could seem or just feel superior in the \"great virtue\" that comes with micro-focusing on meaningless and disjointed facts out of context on your socials, because no one usually objects or bothers to call you out on your bullshit. \nMy next point would've been about how familiar with the black experience in 1920s America, do you think that Roald Dahl (a British writer in the 1960s) was, to be able to confidently include that in his book.", ">\n\npaywall", ">\n\nYour point is taken, but it was four kids of the same age, and one peanut-sheller trying to keep a terrible job.", ">\n\nThey weren't all found by kids, one of them had their father buy up all the stock and have his factory open them all and get a ticket, Agustus was eating loads of chocolate anyway, so his was a high chance relative to others. Except for charlie, they had systems in place to find them. Maybe Mike as well. But the film doesn't show that," ]

[ "This is a friendly reminder to read our rules.\nRemember, /r/Showerthoughts is for showerthoughts, not \"thoughts had in the shower!\"\n(For an explanation of what a \"showerthought\" is, please read this page.)\nRule-breaking posts may result in bans.", ">\n\nI mean, one of them was German, and other than that it appeared to be a mix of British and American kids.", ">\n\nExactly. Put some respect on our bilingual king Augustus Gloop’s name OP! 🍫🇩🇪", ">\n\nFun fact! Did you know the actress who played his mother (Save some room for later!) was in a porn right around that time?", ">\n\nI didn't believe you, so I checked. This appears to be true!", ">\n\nI mean Michael Scott tried this and all the tickets went to the same company.", ">\n\nOmg maybe that episode was really just to shine light on the fact that there is a reason that all the tickets wound up going to the same demographic", ">\n\nNot really sure I’d consider Charlie Bucket and Veruca Salt as the same demographic.", ">\n\nPresumably old mate got confused between demographic and age bracket", ">\n\nAge is a demographic btw", ">\n\nOk. In the story, only Augustus Gloop and Mike Teavee are the same age (9), everyone else is a different age.\nBut why is it surprising that the main characters of a Roald Dahl Story are children? That’s kind of the point of all his children’s novels. \nThere is also almost always an element of magic, or at least the unexplained-possibly-paranormal in his books. In the novel, adults around the world searched like crazy for those tickets, but of course Wonka knows children will be the recipients because his factory, and indeed his candies, are made for children, and their imaginations. The tickets themselves were intended for children, never an adult.\nThe real convenience of it all lies in the the book being written for a target audience, and that audience is children… therefore, characters they relate to.", ">\n\nI wasn’t inherently disagreeing with you (I was responding to the person above who assumed you didn’t think age is a demographic), you can narrow the age demographic to whatever you want. I’d consider “children” to be a general age demographic, but if you want to split it up, that’s fair. \nUntil your response, I didn’t think you were referring to their age, but other points of their demographic profile (SES, culture, location, etc).", ">\n\nI’m sorry, I misunderstood! You are right in thinking I wasn’t referring to their age, btw. I agree they all fit an age demographic, but that’s hardly relevant compared to the social statuses Dahl has created for them.", ">\n\nIt's also incredibly convenient that Wonka's creepy-looking henchman was at the right time and place when all of them were discovered. Almost as if they were planted.", ">\n\nWell there was nothing \"incredibly convenient\" about the winners being English speakers. That was about 99% of the UK at the time.", ">\n\nBecause the only place willy wonkas factory shipped to was within the United Kingdoms borders?", ">\n\nExcept in the film (never read the book) it was implied Wonka’s chocolates shipped out all over the world. I mean, Augustus Gloop was Austrian/German.\nBut yeah, the fact that it was all children who got it would be statistically improbable.", ">\n\nMeh, more kids buy candy than adults, and every year there are more kids than adults.", ">\n\nRight, but the candy wasn’t the main prize. You got a lifetime supply of chocolate which could be sold hand over fist, which I’m sure plenty of adults considered in their quest to find the golden tickets. And plus an exclusive tour of the world’s most mysterious and profitable candy company would almost truly be a once in a lifetime event, and you’re telling me some rich celebrity wouldn’t swoop in and offer any one of those children $10mil cash for the golden ticket, just to have the prestige of going to Wonka’s factory? Just doesn’t add up.", ">\n\nTrue", ">\n\nHappy Cake Day, Jan", ">\n\nHappy what?", ">\n\nIt’s your cake day. Hence the little cake icon next to your username.", ">\n\nIt's because the thing was rigged from the start. Willy Wonka had no children of his own, so he was specifically looking for an heir to take over his empire.", ">\n\nAnd a few to murder.", ">\n\nAs you do", ">\n\nAs is tradition", ">\n\nAs You Were - LG", ">\n\nConsidering the children were all horrible can you think of the uproar on what nationality gets what arsehole behaviour.", ">\n\nI got the impression that Wonka had pretty elaborate plans for the kids, and selected them specifically to teach them lessons?", ">\n\nExactly. He chose Charlie, it was just the final test.", ">\n\nIn the gene wilder version, the candy store salesman admits he was hiding Wonka bars while they were auctioning for extreme prices. Why would a man in the business of selling candy for profit do that? Then, it's not until charlie says he wants to buy something for his grandfather that the candy seller chooses the type of bar for him, and that bar has the golden ticket. \nHe knew he had it, and was intentionally holding it for somebody who wasn't buying for themselves.", ">\n\nCharlie & the chocolate factory Lore", ">\n\nReminds me of how in Boruto, the main ladies of Naruto took a collective pregnancy pact to birth children in the same year.", ">\n\nWhat the fuck", ">\n\nThat's not literally what happened.\nThe naruto cast just had children in the same class at the start of boruto. Which makes kind of sense because Naruto ends with a giant war and those make people have children historically but it's also obviously to have a story in which all the original characters are involved through their children.\nBut it's also so obviously contrived that people joke they all made a pact to get pregnant at the same time because otherwise it's too convenient that they all have children at close to the same age.", ">\n\nThe kids of Boruto are literal baby boomers", ">\n\nThe book is set in 1960s England… What else would they speak?", ">\n\nAre you implying minorities didn't exist back in the 60s? Especially after the war?", ">\n\nNo, they're implying that in a book written in English and probably set in either England or America, the characters all speaking English is not at all surprising.", ">\n\nYou're completely missing out on OP's point by trying to be a contrarian", ">\n\nNo, I'm pointing out that it's a children's book that was written in English and set in a country where English is by far the most commonly spoken language. So the fact that the main characters are mostly children who speak English is not surprising at all. Disagreeing is not the same as being contrarian.", ">\n\nYou are missing out on OP's point", ">\n\nPlease do tell, o enlightened one! What point am I missing exactly?", ">\n\nOr maybe they just didn’t ship the golden ticket chocolate bars to other countries… \nI doubt there we’re many people living in England who speak no English back in those days", ">\n\nAugustus Gloop was German, though? I mean, maybe he was a German immigrant who moved to England, but I was always under the impression that he lived in Germany based on his and his parents' accents.", ">\n\nAnd I thought Mike was the American. What with all the cowboy gear. Could be from anywhere I guess.", ">\n\nYou are seeking logic in a movie where a piece of gum turns a girl into a blueberry… let that sink in", ">\n\n\"I do say, that song & dance all seemed a bit rehearsed!\" (Best line from the remake.)", ">\n\nTLDW - \nBetween 12% and 24%\nThe range is caused when the definition of “white person/English speaking” is changed", ">\n\nI'll bet when you consider that globalization want a thing in the 1920s and you eliminate basically all of Asia, Africa, and South America considering an American candy company's distribution network. The British kid was from a wealthy family who spent insane amounts of money to find a ticket. \nThe the German kid is the most odd to me. How popular has American chocolate ever been in Germany? I'm guessing that is not very popular and that since his family only seemed relatively well off, a trip to America may have been a prohibitive expense due nothing more than a candy factory tour.\nEdit: TIL that the story took place in England (definitely at the forefront of globalization, even in the 1920s). So, that pretty much destroys the logic of my argument.", ">\n\nKid was also a chubster who inhaled sweets like air.", ">\n\nTo be fair English speaking countries tend to be richer therefore more kids there will buy more chocolate and therefore are more likely to get the tickets (Eg. Veruca buying hundreds of chocolates will give her a higher probability of landing a golden ticket than Charlie who can only afford one). \nBut yeah the fact that they’re children makes it rigged. Like I’m sure a teenager or even an adult would’ve gotten one because they bought chocolates too not just the kids.", ">\n\nWhat's strange is that one of those children wasn't an English speaker in real life and just learned the few lives he had to say in English without actually understanding everything.", ">\n\nI mean, it's a good way to murder your kids for insurance money and have a good alibi.", ">\n\nNot that convenient as britan is a white English speaking country it would be weird if it was different is what you meant to say 🤔", ">\n\nGrandpa Joe didn't get out of bed for 20 years. He let everyone take care of him. He decided he could walk again to see Wankas chocolate factory.", ">\n\nI still remember:\nteacher \"And all they had to eat every day was spinach\"\ngirl sitting on floor \"But I dont like spinach\"\nteacher looks down from book \"Then you would die.\"\nclass shocked picachu face\nme, in the back, cant hold back the laughter\nkid next to me looks over, What's your problem? written on his fucking kid face\ni cant speak... only laugh/cry", ">\n\nDidn't the film theory guy on YT calculate the odds of that happening?", ">\n\nAugustus Gloop wasn’t English. He was German. Don’t think he talked English at all.", ">\n\nIt's as convenient in England during that time period as it would be today if in Mexico they had something, and all the winners spoke Spanish. In other words, it's not suspiciously convenient at all.", ">\n\nThats all depends on where wonka sells his chocolate bars right?", ">\n\nSo you can suspend disbelief long enough to accept a factory with a chocolate river and candy plants but all the kids who found tickets speak the same language is just too much..", ">\n\nOf all the unreasonable events related to that story, you found the least one.", ">\n\nAugustus Gloop was from Germany.\nMike Teevee was from the USA.", ">\n\nI mean, it was America in the 1920s ... not a real inclusive time period. Not a lot of globalization going on in the 1920s, in America.\nEdit: 1920s England it seems ... so a fair bit more globalization than I'd assumed", ">\n\nPlenty of black people though.\nEdit: got those who can’t be bothered reading the stupid Reddit argument below, Charlie was originally written as black, and his family was dirt poor.", ">\n\nWhat do you think that the black population in the US (or any country that a British candy maker would have exported to in the 1920s for that matter) was in the 1920s?", ">\n\nAbout 10,000,000, according to Wikipedia.", ">\n\nSounds right ... a little less than 10% of the population.\nAnd how; do you think, many were in a socioeconomic position to spend money on imported European chocolate.", ">\n\nWhy don’t you answer your own question? I was responding to your point about the lack of “globalization” in the US, not about purchasing power of black Americans in 1920.", ">\n\nNo, you're were taking a position to insinuate that I was taking a position. So that you could seem or just feel superior in the \"great virtue\" that comes with micro-focusing on meaningless and disjointed facts out of context on your socials, because no one usually objects or bothers to call you out on your bullshit. \nMy next point would've been about how familiar with the black experience in 1920s America, do you think that Roald Dahl (a British writer in the 1960s) was, to be able to confidently include that in his book.", ">\n\npaywall", ">\n\nYour point is taken, but it was four kids of the same age, and one peanut-sheller trying to keep a terrible job.", ">\n\nThey weren't all found by kids, one of them had their father buy up all the stock and have his factory open them all and get a ticket, Agustus was eating loads of chocolate anyway, so his was a high chance relative to others. Except for charlie, they had systems in place to find them. Maybe Mike as well. But the film doesn't show that,", ">\n\nConvenient or just common sense? Look at the demographics of the time, things make sense when you use logic." ]

[ "This is a friendly reminder to read our rules.\nRemember, /r/Showerthoughts is for showerthoughts, not \"thoughts had in the shower!\"\n(For an explanation of what a \"showerthought\" is, please read this page.)\nRule-breaking posts may result in bans.", ">\n\nI mean, one of them was German, and other than that it appeared to be a mix of British and American kids.", ">\n\nExactly. Put some respect on our bilingual king Augustus Gloop’s name OP! 🍫🇩🇪", ">\n\nFun fact! Did you know the actress who played his mother (Save some room for later!) was in a porn right around that time?", ">\n\nI didn't believe you, so I checked. This appears to be true!", ">\n\nI mean Michael Scott tried this and all the tickets went to the same company.", ">\n\nOmg maybe that episode was really just to shine light on the fact that there is a reason that all the tickets wound up going to the same demographic", ">\n\nNot really sure I’d consider Charlie Bucket and Veruca Salt as the same demographic.", ">\n\nPresumably old mate got confused between demographic and age bracket", ">\n\nAge is a demographic btw", ">\n\nOk. In the story, only Augustus Gloop and Mike Teavee are the same age (9), everyone else is a different age.\nBut why is it surprising that the main characters of a Roald Dahl Story are children? That’s kind of the point of all his children’s novels. \nThere is also almost always an element of magic, or at least the unexplained-possibly-paranormal in his books. In the novel, adults around the world searched like crazy for those tickets, but of course Wonka knows children will be the recipients because his factory, and indeed his candies, are made for children, and their imaginations. The tickets themselves were intended for children, never an adult.\nThe real convenience of it all lies in the the book being written for a target audience, and that audience is children… therefore, characters they relate to.", ">\n\nI wasn’t inherently disagreeing with you (I was responding to the person above who assumed you didn’t think age is a demographic), you can narrow the age demographic to whatever you want. I’d consider “children” to be a general age demographic, but if you want to split it up, that’s fair. \nUntil your response, I didn’t think you were referring to their age, but other points of their demographic profile (SES, culture, location, etc).", ">\n\nI’m sorry, I misunderstood! You are right in thinking I wasn’t referring to their age, btw. I agree they all fit an age demographic, but that’s hardly relevant compared to the social statuses Dahl has created for them.", ">\n\nIt's also incredibly convenient that Wonka's creepy-looking henchman was at the right time and place when all of them were discovered. Almost as if they were planted.", ">\n\nWell there was nothing \"incredibly convenient\" about the winners being English speakers. That was about 99% of the UK at the time.", ">\n\nBecause the only place willy wonkas factory shipped to was within the United Kingdoms borders?", ">\n\nExcept in the film (never read the book) it was implied Wonka’s chocolates shipped out all over the world. I mean, Augustus Gloop was Austrian/German.\nBut yeah, the fact that it was all children who got it would be statistically improbable.", ">\n\nMeh, more kids buy candy than adults, and every year there are more kids than adults.", ">\n\nRight, but the candy wasn’t the main prize. You got a lifetime supply of chocolate which could be sold hand over fist, which I’m sure plenty of adults considered in their quest to find the golden tickets. And plus an exclusive tour of the world’s most mysterious and profitable candy company would almost truly be a once in a lifetime event, and you’re telling me some rich celebrity wouldn’t swoop in and offer any one of those children $10mil cash for the golden ticket, just to have the prestige of going to Wonka’s factory? Just doesn’t add up.", ">\n\nTrue", ">\n\nHappy Cake Day, Jan", ">\n\nHappy what?", ">\n\nIt’s your cake day. Hence the little cake icon next to your username.", ">\n\nIt's because the thing was rigged from the start. Willy Wonka had no children of his own, so he was specifically looking for an heir to take over his empire.", ">\n\nAnd a few to murder.", ">\n\nAs you do", ">\n\nAs is tradition", ">\n\nAs You Were - LG", ">\n\nConsidering the children were all horrible can you think of the uproar on what nationality gets what arsehole behaviour.", ">\n\nI got the impression that Wonka had pretty elaborate plans for the kids, and selected them specifically to teach them lessons?", ">\n\nExactly. He chose Charlie, it was just the final test.", ">\n\nIn the gene wilder version, the candy store salesman admits he was hiding Wonka bars while they were auctioning for extreme prices. Why would a man in the business of selling candy for profit do that? Then, it's not until charlie says he wants to buy something for his grandfather that the candy seller chooses the type of bar for him, and that bar has the golden ticket. \nHe knew he had it, and was intentionally holding it for somebody who wasn't buying for themselves.", ">\n\nCharlie & the chocolate factory Lore", ">\n\nReminds me of how in Boruto, the main ladies of Naruto took a collective pregnancy pact to birth children in the same year.", ">\n\nWhat the fuck", ">\n\nThat's not literally what happened.\nThe naruto cast just had children in the same class at the start of boruto. Which makes kind of sense because Naruto ends with a giant war and those make people have children historically but it's also obviously to have a story in which all the original characters are involved through their children.\nBut it's also so obviously contrived that people joke they all made a pact to get pregnant at the same time because otherwise it's too convenient that they all have children at close to the same age.", ">\n\nThe kids of Boruto are literal baby boomers", ">\n\nThe book is set in 1960s England… What else would they speak?", ">\n\nAre you implying minorities didn't exist back in the 60s? Especially after the war?", ">\n\nNo, they're implying that in a book written in English and probably set in either England or America, the characters all speaking English is not at all surprising.", ">\n\nYou're completely missing out on OP's point by trying to be a contrarian", ">\n\nNo, I'm pointing out that it's a children's book that was written in English and set in a country where English is by far the most commonly spoken language. So the fact that the main characters are mostly children who speak English is not surprising at all. Disagreeing is not the same as being contrarian.", ">\n\nYou are missing out on OP's point", ">\n\nPlease do tell, o enlightened one! What point am I missing exactly?", ">\n\nOr maybe they just didn’t ship the golden ticket chocolate bars to other countries… \nI doubt there we’re many people living in England who speak no English back in those days", ">\n\nAugustus Gloop was German, though? I mean, maybe he was a German immigrant who moved to England, but I was always under the impression that he lived in Germany based on his and his parents' accents.", ">\n\nAnd I thought Mike was the American. What with all the cowboy gear. Could be from anywhere I guess.", ">\n\nYou are seeking logic in a movie where a piece of gum turns a girl into a blueberry… let that sink in", ">\n\n\"I do say, that song & dance all seemed a bit rehearsed!\" (Best line from the remake.)", ">\n\nTLDW - \nBetween 12% and 24%\nThe range is caused when the definition of “white person/English speaking” is changed", ">\n\nI'll bet when you consider that globalization want a thing in the 1920s and you eliminate basically all of Asia, Africa, and South America considering an American candy company's distribution network. The British kid was from a wealthy family who spent insane amounts of money to find a ticket. \nThe the German kid is the most odd to me. How popular has American chocolate ever been in Germany? I'm guessing that is not very popular and that since his family only seemed relatively well off, a trip to America may have been a prohibitive expense due nothing more than a candy factory tour.\nEdit: TIL that the story took place in England (definitely at the forefront of globalization, even in the 1920s). So, that pretty much destroys the logic of my argument.", ">\n\nKid was also a chubster who inhaled sweets like air.", ">\n\nTo be fair English speaking countries tend to be richer therefore more kids there will buy more chocolate and therefore are more likely to get the tickets (Eg. Veruca buying hundreds of chocolates will give her a higher probability of landing a golden ticket than Charlie who can only afford one). \nBut yeah the fact that they’re children makes it rigged. Like I’m sure a teenager or even an adult would’ve gotten one because they bought chocolates too not just the kids.", ">\n\nWhat's strange is that one of those children wasn't an English speaker in real life and just learned the few lives he had to say in English without actually understanding everything.", ">\n\nI mean, it's a good way to murder your kids for insurance money and have a good alibi.", ">\n\nNot that convenient as britan is a white English speaking country it would be weird if it was different is what you meant to say 🤔", ">\n\nGrandpa Joe didn't get out of bed for 20 years. He let everyone take care of him. He decided he could walk again to see Wankas chocolate factory.", ">\n\nI still remember:\nteacher \"And all they had to eat every day was spinach\"\ngirl sitting on floor \"But I dont like spinach\"\nteacher looks down from book \"Then you would die.\"\nclass shocked picachu face\nme, in the back, cant hold back the laughter\nkid next to me looks over, What's your problem? written on his fucking kid face\ni cant speak... only laugh/cry", ">\n\nDidn't the film theory guy on YT calculate the odds of that happening?", ">\n\nAugustus Gloop wasn’t English. He was German. Don’t think he talked English at all.", ">\n\nIt's as convenient in England during that time period as it would be today if in Mexico they had something, and all the winners spoke Spanish. In other words, it's not suspiciously convenient at all.", ">\n\nThats all depends on where wonka sells his chocolate bars right?", ">\n\nSo you can suspend disbelief long enough to accept a factory with a chocolate river and candy plants but all the kids who found tickets speak the same language is just too much..", ">\n\nOf all the unreasonable events related to that story, you found the least one.", ">\n\nAugustus Gloop was from Germany.\nMike Teevee was from the USA.", ">\n\nI mean, it was America in the 1920s ... not a real inclusive time period. Not a lot of globalization going on in the 1920s, in America.\nEdit: 1920s England it seems ... so a fair bit more globalization than I'd assumed", ">\n\nPlenty of black people though.\nEdit: got those who can’t be bothered reading the stupid Reddit argument below, Charlie was originally written as black, and his family was dirt poor.", ">\n\nWhat do you think that the black population in the US (or any country that a British candy maker would have exported to in the 1920s for that matter) was in the 1920s?", ">\n\nAbout 10,000,000, according to Wikipedia.", ">\n\nSounds right ... a little less than 10% of the population.\nAnd how; do you think, many were in a socioeconomic position to spend money on imported European chocolate.", ">\n\nWhy don’t you answer your own question? I was responding to your point about the lack of “globalization” in the US, not about purchasing power of black Americans in 1920.", ">\n\nNo, you're were taking a position to insinuate that I was taking a position. So that you could seem or just feel superior in the \"great virtue\" that comes with micro-focusing on meaningless and disjointed facts out of context on your socials, because no one usually objects or bothers to call you out on your bullshit. \nMy next point would've been about how familiar with the black experience in 1920s America, do you think that Roald Dahl (a British writer in the 1960s) was, to be able to confidently include that in his book.", ">\n\npaywall", ">\n\nYour point is taken, but it was four kids of the same age, and one peanut-sheller trying to keep a terrible job.", ">\n\nThey weren't all found by kids, one of them had their father buy up all the stock and have his factory open them all and get a ticket, Agustus was eating loads of chocolate anyway, so his was a high chance relative to others. Except for charlie, they had systems in place to find them. Maybe Mike as well. But the film doesn't show that,", ">\n\nConvenient or just common sense? Look at the demographics of the time, things make sense when you use logic.", ">\n\nMy Chinese mum held onto dried plumbs for 6 months when she was a kid. That’s how deprived of decent sweets China was in the 70’s" ]

[ "This is a friendly reminder to read our rules.\nRemember, /r/Showerthoughts is for showerthoughts, not \"thoughts had in the shower!\"\n(For an explanation of what a \"showerthought\" is, please read this page.)\nRule-breaking posts may result in bans.", ">\n\nI mean, one of them was German, and other than that it appeared to be a mix of British and American kids.", ">\n\nExactly. Put some respect on our bilingual king Augustus Gloop’s name OP! 🍫🇩🇪", ">\n\nFun fact! Did you know the actress who played his mother (Save some room for later!) was in a porn right around that time?", ">\n\nI didn't believe you, so I checked. This appears to be true!", ">\n\nI mean Michael Scott tried this and all the tickets went to the same company.", ">\n\nOmg maybe that episode was really just to shine light on the fact that there is a reason that all the tickets wound up going to the same demographic", ">\n\nNot really sure I’d consider Charlie Bucket and Veruca Salt as the same demographic.", ">\n\nPresumably old mate got confused between demographic and age bracket", ">\n\nAge is a demographic btw", ">\n\nOk. In the story, only Augustus Gloop and Mike Teavee are the same age (9), everyone else is a different age.\nBut why is it surprising that the main characters of a Roald Dahl Story are children? That’s kind of the point of all his children’s novels. \nThere is also almost always an element of magic, or at least the unexplained-possibly-paranormal in his books. In the novel, adults around the world searched like crazy for those tickets, but of course Wonka knows children will be the recipients because his factory, and indeed his candies, are made for children, and their imaginations. The tickets themselves were intended for children, never an adult.\nThe real convenience of it all lies in the the book being written for a target audience, and that audience is children… therefore, characters they relate to.", ">\n\nI wasn’t inherently disagreeing with you (I was responding to the person above who assumed you didn’t think age is a demographic), you can narrow the age demographic to whatever you want. I’d consider “children” to be a general age demographic, but if you want to split it up, that’s fair. \nUntil your response, I didn’t think you were referring to their age, but other points of their demographic profile (SES, culture, location, etc).", ">\n\nI’m sorry, I misunderstood! You are right in thinking I wasn’t referring to their age, btw. I agree they all fit an age demographic, but that’s hardly relevant compared to the social statuses Dahl has created for them.", ">\n\nIt's also incredibly convenient that Wonka's creepy-looking henchman was at the right time and place when all of them were discovered. Almost as if they were planted.", ">\n\nWell there was nothing \"incredibly convenient\" about the winners being English speakers. That was about 99% of the UK at the time.", ">\n\nBecause the only place willy wonkas factory shipped to was within the United Kingdoms borders?", ">\n\nExcept in the film (never read the book) it was implied Wonka’s chocolates shipped out all over the world. I mean, Augustus Gloop was Austrian/German.\nBut yeah, the fact that it was all children who got it would be statistically improbable.", ">\n\nMeh, more kids buy candy than adults, and every year there are more kids than adults.", ">\n\nRight, but the candy wasn’t the main prize. You got a lifetime supply of chocolate which could be sold hand over fist, which I’m sure plenty of adults considered in their quest to find the golden tickets. And plus an exclusive tour of the world’s most mysterious and profitable candy company would almost truly be a once in a lifetime event, and you’re telling me some rich celebrity wouldn’t swoop in and offer any one of those children $10mil cash for the golden ticket, just to have the prestige of going to Wonka’s factory? Just doesn’t add up.", ">\n\nTrue", ">\n\nHappy Cake Day, Jan", ">\n\nHappy what?", ">\n\nIt’s your cake day. Hence the little cake icon next to your username.", ">\n\nIt's because the thing was rigged from the start. Willy Wonka had no children of his own, so he was specifically looking for an heir to take over his empire.", ">\n\nAnd a few to murder.", ">\n\nAs you do", ">\n\nAs is tradition", ">\n\nAs You Were - LG", ">\n\nConsidering the children were all horrible can you think of the uproar on what nationality gets what arsehole behaviour.", ">\n\nI got the impression that Wonka had pretty elaborate plans for the kids, and selected them specifically to teach them lessons?", ">\n\nExactly. He chose Charlie, it was just the final test.", ">\n\nIn the gene wilder version, the candy store salesman admits he was hiding Wonka bars while they were auctioning for extreme prices. Why would a man in the business of selling candy for profit do that? Then, it's not until charlie says he wants to buy something for his grandfather that the candy seller chooses the type of bar for him, and that bar has the golden ticket. \nHe knew he had it, and was intentionally holding it for somebody who wasn't buying for themselves.", ">\n\nCharlie & the chocolate factory Lore", ">\n\nReminds me of how in Boruto, the main ladies of Naruto took a collective pregnancy pact to birth children in the same year.", ">\n\nWhat the fuck", ">\n\nThat's not literally what happened.\nThe naruto cast just had children in the same class at the start of boruto. Which makes kind of sense because Naruto ends with a giant war and those make people have children historically but it's also obviously to have a story in which all the original characters are involved through their children.\nBut it's also so obviously contrived that people joke they all made a pact to get pregnant at the same time because otherwise it's too convenient that they all have children at close to the same age.", ">\n\nThe kids of Boruto are literal baby boomers", ">\n\nThe book is set in 1960s England… What else would they speak?", ">\n\nAre you implying minorities didn't exist back in the 60s? Especially after the war?", ">\n\nNo, they're implying that in a book written in English and probably set in either England or America, the characters all speaking English is not at all surprising.", ">\n\nYou're completely missing out on OP's point by trying to be a contrarian", ">\n\nNo, I'm pointing out that it's a children's book that was written in English and set in a country where English is by far the most commonly spoken language. So the fact that the main characters are mostly children who speak English is not surprising at all. Disagreeing is not the same as being contrarian.", ">\n\nYou are missing out on OP's point", ">\n\nPlease do tell, o enlightened one! What point am I missing exactly?", ">\n\nOr maybe they just didn’t ship the golden ticket chocolate bars to other countries… \nI doubt there we’re many people living in England who speak no English back in those days", ">\n\nAugustus Gloop was German, though? I mean, maybe he was a German immigrant who moved to England, but I was always under the impression that he lived in Germany based on his and his parents' accents.", ">\n\nAnd I thought Mike was the American. What with all the cowboy gear. Could be from anywhere I guess.", ">\n\nYou are seeking logic in a movie where a piece of gum turns a girl into a blueberry… let that sink in", ">\n\n\"I do say, that song & dance all seemed a bit rehearsed!\" (Best line from the remake.)", ">\n\nTLDW - \nBetween 12% and 24%\nThe range is caused when the definition of “white person/English speaking” is changed", ">\n\nI'll bet when you consider that globalization want a thing in the 1920s and you eliminate basically all of Asia, Africa, and South America considering an American candy company's distribution network. The British kid was from a wealthy family who spent insane amounts of money to find a ticket. \nThe the German kid is the most odd to me. How popular has American chocolate ever been in Germany? I'm guessing that is not very popular and that since his family only seemed relatively well off, a trip to America may have been a prohibitive expense due nothing more than a candy factory tour.\nEdit: TIL that the story took place in England (definitely at the forefront of globalization, even in the 1920s). So, that pretty much destroys the logic of my argument.", ">\n\nKid was also a chubster who inhaled sweets like air.", ">\n\nTo be fair English speaking countries tend to be richer therefore more kids there will buy more chocolate and therefore are more likely to get the tickets (Eg. Veruca buying hundreds of chocolates will give her a higher probability of landing a golden ticket than Charlie who can only afford one). \nBut yeah the fact that they’re children makes it rigged. Like I’m sure a teenager or even an adult would’ve gotten one because they bought chocolates too not just the kids.", ">\n\nWhat's strange is that one of those children wasn't an English speaker in real life and just learned the few lives he had to say in English without actually understanding everything.", ">\n\nI mean, it's a good way to murder your kids for insurance money and have a good alibi.", ">\n\nNot that convenient as britan is a white English speaking country it would be weird if it was different is what you meant to say 🤔", ">\n\nGrandpa Joe didn't get out of bed for 20 years. He let everyone take care of him. He decided he could walk again to see Wankas chocolate factory.", ">\n\nI still remember:\nteacher \"And all they had to eat every day was spinach\"\ngirl sitting on floor \"But I dont like spinach\"\nteacher looks down from book \"Then you would die.\"\nclass shocked picachu face\nme, in the back, cant hold back the laughter\nkid next to me looks over, What's your problem? written on his fucking kid face\ni cant speak... only laugh/cry", ">\n\nDidn't the film theory guy on YT calculate the odds of that happening?", ">\n\nAugustus Gloop wasn’t English. He was German. Don’t think he talked English at all.", ">\n\nIt's as convenient in England during that time period as it would be today if in Mexico they had something, and all the winners spoke Spanish. In other words, it's not suspiciously convenient at all.", ">\n\nThats all depends on where wonka sells his chocolate bars right?", ">\n\nSo you can suspend disbelief long enough to accept a factory with a chocolate river and candy plants but all the kids who found tickets speak the same language is just too much..", ">\n\nOf all the unreasonable events related to that story, you found the least one.", ">\n\nAugustus Gloop was from Germany.\nMike Teevee was from the USA.", ">\n\nI mean, it was America in the 1920s ... not a real inclusive time period. Not a lot of globalization going on in the 1920s, in America.\nEdit: 1920s England it seems ... so a fair bit more globalization than I'd assumed", ">\n\nPlenty of black people though.\nEdit: got those who can’t be bothered reading the stupid Reddit argument below, Charlie was originally written as black, and his family was dirt poor.", ">\n\nWhat do you think that the black population in the US (or any country that a British candy maker would have exported to in the 1920s for that matter) was in the 1920s?", ">\n\nAbout 10,000,000, according to Wikipedia.", ">\n\nSounds right ... a little less than 10% of the population.\nAnd how; do you think, many were in a socioeconomic position to spend money on imported European chocolate.", ">\n\nWhy don’t you answer your own question? I was responding to your point about the lack of “globalization” in the US, not about purchasing power of black Americans in 1920.", ">\n\nNo, you're were taking a position to insinuate that I was taking a position. So that you could seem or just feel superior in the \"great virtue\" that comes with micro-focusing on meaningless and disjointed facts out of context on your socials, because no one usually objects or bothers to call you out on your bullshit. \nMy next point would've been about how familiar with the black experience in 1920s America, do you think that Roald Dahl (a British writer in the 1960s) was, to be able to confidently include that in his book.", ">\n\npaywall", ">\n\nYour point is taken, but it was four kids of the same age, and one peanut-sheller trying to keep a terrible job.", ">\n\nThey weren't all found by kids, one of them had their father buy up all the stock and have his factory open them all and get a ticket, Agustus was eating loads of chocolate anyway, so his was a high chance relative to others. Except for charlie, they had systems in place to find them. Maybe Mike as well. But the film doesn't show that,", ">\n\nConvenient or just common sense? Look at the demographics of the time, things make sense when you use logic.", ">\n\nMy Chinese mum held onto dried plumbs for 6 months when she was a kid. That’s how deprived of decent sweets China was in the 70’s", ">\n\nThe Oompah Lumpah uprising will spare none of the bourgeoisie." ]

[ "This is a friendly reminder to read our rules.\nRemember, /r/Showerthoughts is for showerthoughts, not \"thoughts had in the shower!\"\n(For an explanation of what a \"showerthought\" is, please read this page.)\nRule-breaking posts may result in bans.", ">\n\nI mean, one of them was German, and other than that it appeared to be a mix of British and American kids.", ">\n\nExactly. Put some respect on our bilingual king Augustus Gloop’s name OP! 🍫🇩🇪", ">\n\nFun fact! Did you know the actress who played his mother (Save some room for later!) was in a porn right around that time?", ">\n\nI didn't believe you, so I checked. This appears to be true!", ">\n\nI mean Michael Scott tried this and all the tickets went to the same company.", ">\n\nOmg maybe that episode was really just to shine light on the fact that there is a reason that all the tickets wound up going to the same demographic", ">\n\nNot really sure I’d consider Charlie Bucket and Veruca Salt as the same demographic.", ">\n\nPresumably old mate got confused between demographic and age bracket", ">\n\nAge is a demographic btw", ">\n\nOk. In the story, only Augustus Gloop and Mike Teavee are the same age (9), everyone else is a different age.\nBut why is it surprising that the main characters of a Roald Dahl Story are children? That’s kind of the point of all his children’s novels. \nThere is also almost always an element of magic, or at least the unexplained-possibly-paranormal in his books. In the novel, adults around the world searched like crazy for those tickets, but of course Wonka knows children will be the recipients because his factory, and indeed his candies, are made for children, and their imaginations. The tickets themselves were intended for children, never an adult.\nThe real convenience of it all lies in the the book being written for a target audience, and that audience is children… therefore, characters they relate to.", ">\n\nI wasn’t inherently disagreeing with you (I was responding to the person above who assumed you didn’t think age is a demographic), you can narrow the age demographic to whatever you want. I’d consider “children” to be a general age demographic, but if you want to split it up, that’s fair. \nUntil your response, I didn’t think you were referring to their age, but other points of their demographic profile (SES, culture, location, etc).", ">\n\nI’m sorry, I misunderstood! You are right in thinking I wasn’t referring to their age, btw. I agree they all fit an age demographic, but that’s hardly relevant compared to the social statuses Dahl has created for them.", ">\n\nIt's also incredibly convenient that Wonka's creepy-looking henchman was at the right time and place when all of them were discovered. Almost as if they were planted.", ">\n\nWell there was nothing \"incredibly convenient\" about the winners being English speakers. That was about 99% of the UK at the time.", ">\n\nBecause the only place willy wonkas factory shipped to was within the United Kingdoms borders?", ">\n\nExcept in the film (never read the book) it was implied Wonka’s chocolates shipped out all over the world. I mean, Augustus Gloop was Austrian/German.\nBut yeah, the fact that it was all children who got it would be statistically improbable.", ">\n\nMeh, more kids buy candy than adults, and every year there are more kids than adults.", ">\n\nRight, but the candy wasn’t the main prize. You got a lifetime supply of chocolate which could be sold hand over fist, which I’m sure plenty of adults considered in their quest to find the golden tickets. And plus an exclusive tour of the world’s most mysterious and profitable candy company would almost truly be a once in a lifetime event, and you’re telling me some rich celebrity wouldn’t swoop in and offer any one of those children $10mil cash for the golden ticket, just to have the prestige of going to Wonka’s factory? Just doesn’t add up.", ">\n\nTrue", ">\n\nHappy Cake Day, Jan", ">\n\nHappy what?", ">\n\nIt’s your cake day. Hence the little cake icon next to your username.", ">\n\nIt's because the thing was rigged from the start. Willy Wonka had no children of his own, so he was specifically looking for an heir to take over his empire.", ">\n\nAnd a few to murder.", ">\n\nAs you do", ">\n\nAs is tradition", ">\n\nAs You Were - LG", ">\n\nConsidering the children were all horrible can you think of the uproar on what nationality gets what arsehole behaviour.", ">\n\nI got the impression that Wonka had pretty elaborate plans for the kids, and selected them specifically to teach them lessons?", ">\n\nExactly. He chose Charlie, it was just the final test.", ">\n\nIn the gene wilder version, the candy store salesman admits he was hiding Wonka bars while they were auctioning for extreme prices. Why would a man in the business of selling candy for profit do that? Then, it's not until charlie says he wants to buy something for his grandfather that the candy seller chooses the type of bar for him, and that bar has the golden ticket. \nHe knew he had it, and was intentionally holding it for somebody who wasn't buying for themselves.", ">\n\nCharlie & the chocolate factory Lore", ">\n\nReminds me of how in Boruto, the main ladies of Naruto took a collective pregnancy pact to birth children in the same year.", ">\n\nWhat the fuck", ">\n\nThat's not literally what happened.\nThe naruto cast just had children in the same class at the start of boruto. Which makes kind of sense because Naruto ends with a giant war and those make people have children historically but it's also obviously to have a story in which all the original characters are involved through their children.\nBut it's also so obviously contrived that people joke they all made a pact to get pregnant at the same time because otherwise it's too convenient that they all have children at close to the same age.", ">\n\nThe kids of Boruto are literal baby boomers", ">\n\nThe book is set in 1960s England… What else would they speak?", ">\n\nAre you implying minorities didn't exist back in the 60s? Especially after the war?", ">\n\nNo, they're implying that in a book written in English and probably set in either England or America, the characters all speaking English is not at all surprising.", ">\n\nYou're completely missing out on OP's point by trying to be a contrarian", ">\n\nNo, I'm pointing out that it's a children's book that was written in English and set in a country where English is by far the most commonly spoken language. So the fact that the main characters are mostly children who speak English is not surprising at all. Disagreeing is not the same as being contrarian.", ">\n\nYou are missing out on OP's point", ">\n\nPlease do tell, o enlightened one! What point am I missing exactly?", ">\n\nOr maybe they just didn’t ship the golden ticket chocolate bars to other countries… \nI doubt there we’re many people living in England who speak no English back in those days", ">\n\nAugustus Gloop was German, though? I mean, maybe he was a German immigrant who moved to England, but I was always under the impression that he lived in Germany based on his and his parents' accents.", ">\n\nAnd I thought Mike was the American. What with all the cowboy gear. Could be from anywhere I guess.", ">\n\nYou are seeking logic in a movie where a piece of gum turns a girl into a blueberry… let that sink in", ">\n\n\"I do say, that song & dance all seemed a bit rehearsed!\" (Best line from the remake.)", ">\n\nTLDW - \nBetween 12% and 24%\nThe range is caused when the definition of “white person/English speaking” is changed", ">\n\nI'll bet when you consider that globalization want a thing in the 1920s and you eliminate basically all of Asia, Africa, and South America considering an American candy company's distribution network. The British kid was from a wealthy family who spent insane amounts of money to find a ticket. \nThe the German kid is the most odd to me. How popular has American chocolate ever been in Germany? I'm guessing that is not very popular and that since his family only seemed relatively well off, a trip to America may have been a prohibitive expense due nothing more than a candy factory tour.\nEdit: TIL that the story took place in England (definitely at the forefront of globalization, even in the 1920s). So, that pretty much destroys the logic of my argument.", ">\n\nKid was also a chubster who inhaled sweets like air.", ">\n\nTo be fair English speaking countries tend to be richer therefore more kids there will buy more chocolate and therefore are more likely to get the tickets (Eg. Veruca buying hundreds of chocolates will give her a higher probability of landing a golden ticket than Charlie who can only afford one). \nBut yeah the fact that they’re children makes it rigged. Like I’m sure a teenager or even an adult would’ve gotten one because they bought chocolates too not just the kids.", ">\n\nWhat's strange is that one of those children wasn't an English speaker in real life and just learned the few lives he had to say in English without actually understanding everything.", ">\n\nI mean, it's a good way to murder your kids for insurance money and have a good alibi.", ">\n\nNot that convenient as britan is a white English speaking country it would be weird if it was different is what you meant to say 🤔", ">\n\nGrandpa Joe didn't get out of bed for 20 years. He let everyone take care of him. He decided he could walk again to see Wankas chocolate factory.", ">\n\nI still remember:\nteacher \"And all they had to eat every day was spinach\"\ngirl sitting on floor \"But I dont like spinach\"\nteacher looks down from book \"Then you would die.\"\nclass shocked picachu face\nme, in the back, cant hold back the laughter\nkid next to me looks over, What's your problem? written on his fucking kid face\ni cant speak... only laugh/cry", ">\n\nDidn't the film theory guy on YT calculate the odds of that happening?", ">\n\nAugustus Gloop wasn’t English. He was German. Don’t think he talked English at all.", ">\n\nIt's as convenient in England during that time period as it would be today if in Mexico they had something, and all the winners spoke Spanish. In other words, it's not suspiciously convenient at all.", ">\n\nThats all depends on where wonka sells his chocolate bars right?", ">\n\nSo you can suspend disbelief long enough to accept a factory with a chocolate river and candy plants but all the kids who found tickets speak the same language is just too much..", ">\n\nOf all the unreasonable events related to that story, you found the least one.", ">\n\nAugustus Gloop was from Germany.\nMike Teevee was from the USA.", ">\n\nI mean, it was America in the 1920s ... not a real inclusive time period. Not a lot of globalization going on in the 1920s, in America.\nEdit: 1920s England it seems ... so a fair bit more globalization than I'd assumed", ">\n\nPlenty of black people though.\nEdit: got those who can’t be bothered reading the stupid Reddit argument below, Charlie was originally written as black, and his family was dirt poor.", ">\n\nWhat do you think that the black population in the US (or any country that a British candy maker would have exported to in the 1920s for that matter) was in the 1920s?", ">\n\nAbout 10,000,000, according to Wikipedia.", ">\n\nSounds right ... a little less than 10% of the population.\nAnd how; do you think, many were in a socioeconomic position to spend money on imported European chocolate.", ">\n\nWhy don’t you answer your own question? I was responding to your point about the lack of “globalization” in the US, not about purchasing power of black Americans in 1920.", ">\n\nNo, you're were taking a position to insinuate that I was taking a position. So that you could seem or just feel superior in the \"great virtue\" that comes with micro-focusing on meaningless and disjointed facts out of context on your socials, because no one usually objects or bothers to call you out on your bullshit. \nMy next point would've been about how familiar with the black experience in 1920s America, do you think that Roald Dahl (a British writer in the 1960s) was, to be able to confidently include that in his book.", ">\n\npaywall", ">\n\nYour point is taken, but it was four kids of the same age, and one peanut-sheller trying to keep a terrible job.", ">\n\nThey weren't all found by kids, one of them had their father buy up all the stock and have his factory open them all and get a ticket, Agustus was eating loads of chocolate anyway, so his was a high chance relative to others. Except for charlie, they had systems in place to find them. Maybe Mike as well. But the film doesn't show that,", ">\n\nConvenient or just common sense? Look at the demographics of the time, things make sense when you use logic.", ">\n\nMy Chinese mum held onto dried plumbs for 6 months when she was a kid. That’s how deprived of decent sweets China was in the 70’s", ">\n\nThe Oompah Lumpah uprising will spare none of the bourgeoisie.", ">\n\nIf you ask that monster grandpa Joe, he would disagree. And crop dust you with cabbage farts as he waltzed away." ]

[ "This is a friendly reminder to read our rules.\nRemember, /r/Showerthoughts is for showerthoughts, not \"thoughts had in the shower!\"\n(For an explanation of what a \"showerthought\" is, please read this page.)\nRule-breaking posts may result in bans.", ">\n\nI mean, one of them was German, and other than that it appeared to be a mix of British and American kids.", ">\n\nExactly. Put some respect on our bilingual king Augustus Gloop’s name OP! 🍫🇩🇪", ">\n\nFun fact! Did you know the actress who played his mother (Save some room for later!) was in a porn right around that time?", ">\n\nI didn't believe you, so I checked. This appears to be true!", ">\n\nI mean Michael Scott tried this and all the tickets went to the same company.", ">\n\nOmg maybe that episode was really just to shine light on the fact that there is a reason that all the tickets wound up going to the same demographic", ">\n\nNot really sure I’d consider Charlie Bucket and Veruca Salt as the same demographic.", ">\n\nPresumably old mate got confused between demographic and age bracket", ">\n\nAge is a demographic btw", ">\n\nOk. In the story, only Augustus Gloop and Mike Teavee are the same age (9), everyone else is a different age.\nBut why is it surprising that the main characters of a Roald Dahl Story are children? That’s kind of the point of all his children’s novels. \nThere is also almost always an element of magic, or at least the unexplained-possibly-paranormal in his books. In the novel, adults around the world searched like crazy for those tickets, but of course Wonka knows children will be the recipients because his factory, and indeed his candies, are made for children, and their imaginations. The tickets themselves were intended for children, never an adult.\nThe real convenience of it all lies in the the book being written for a target audience, and that audience is children… therefore, characters they relate to.", ">\n\nI wasn’t inherently disagreeing with you (I was responding to the person above who assumed you didn’t think age is a demographic), you can narrow the age demographic to whatever you want. I’d consider “children” to be a general age demographic, but if you want to split it up, that’s fair. \nUntil your response, I didn’t think you were referring to their age, but other points of their demographic profile (SES, culture, location, etc).", ">\n\nI’m sorry, I misunderstood! You are right in thinking I wasn’t referring to their age, btw. I agree they all fit an age demographic, but that’s hardly relevant compared to the social statuses Dahl has created for them.", ">\n\nIt's also incredibly convenient that Wonka's creepy-looking henchman was at the right time and place when all of them were discovered. Almost as if they were planted.", ">\n\nWell there was nothing \"incredibly convenient\" about the winners being English speakers. That was about 99% of the UK at the time.", ">\n\nBecause the only place willy wonkas factory shipped to was within the United Kingdoms borders?", ">\n\nExcept in the film (never read the book) it was implied Wonka’s chocolates shipped out all over the world. I mean, Augustus Gloop was Austrian/German.\nBut yeah, the fact that it was all children who got it would be statistically improbable.", ">\n\nMeh, more kids buy candy than adults, and every year there are more kids than adults.", ">\n\nRight, but the candy wasn’t the main prize. You got a lifetime supply of chocolate which could be sold hand over fist, which I’m sure plenty of adults considered in their quest to find the golden tickets. And plus an exclusive tour of the world’s most mysterious and profitable candy company would almost truly be a once in a lifetime event, and you’re telling me some rich celebrity wouldn’t swoop in and offer any one of those children $10mil cash for the golden ticket, just to have the prestige of going to Wonka’s factory? Just doesn’t add up.", ">\n\nTrue", ">\n\nHappy Cake Day, Jan", ">\n\nHappy what?", ">\n\nIt’s your cake day. Hence the little cake icon next to your username.", ">\n\nIt's because the thing was rigged from the start. Willy Wonka had no children of his own, so he was specifically looking for an heir to take over his empire.", ">\n\nAnd a few to murder.", ">\n\nAs you do", ">\n\nAs is tradition", ">\n\nAs You Were - LG", ">\n\nConsidering the children were all horrible can you think of the uproar on what nationality gets what arsehole behaviour.", ">\n\nI got the impression that Wonka had pretty elaborate plans for the kids, and selected them specifically to teach them lessons?", ">\n\nExactly. He chose Charlie, it was just the final test.", ">\n\nIn the gene wilder version, the candy store salesman admits he was hiding Wonka bars while they were auctioning for extreme prices. Why would a man in the business of selling candy for profit do that? Then, it's not until charlie says he wants to buy something for his grandfather that the candy seller chooses the type of bar for him, and that bar has the golden ticket. \nHe knew he had it, and was intentionally holding it for somebody who wasn't buying for themselves.", ">\n\nCharlie & the chocolate factory Lore", ">\n\nReminds me of how in Boruto, the main ladies of Naruto took a collective pregnancy pact to birth children in the same year.", ">\n\nWhat the fuck", ">\n\nThat's not literally what happened.\nThe naruto cast just had children in the same class at the start of boruto. Which makes kind of sense because Naruto ends with a giant war and those make people have children historically but it's also obviously to have a story in which all the original characters are involved through their children.\nBut it's also so obviously contrived that people joke they all made a pact to get pregnant at the same time because otherwise it's too convenient that they all have children at close to the same age.", ">\n\nThe kids of Boruto are literal baby boomers", ">\n\nThe book is set in 1960s England… What else would they speak?", ">\n\nAre you implying minorities didn't exist back in the 60s? Especially after the war?", ">\n\nNo, they're implying that in a book written in English and probably set in either England or America, the characters all speaking English is not at all surprising.", ">\n\nYou're completely missing out on OP's point by trying to be a contrarian", ">\n\nNo, I'm pointing out that it's a children's book that was written in English and set in a country where English is by far the most commonly spoken language. So the fact that the main characters are mostly children who speak English is not surprising at all. Disagreeing is not the same as being contrarian.", ">\n\nYou are missing out on OP's point", ">\n\nPlease do tell, o enlightened one! What point am I missing exactly?", ">\n\nOr maybe they just didn’t ship the golden ticket chocolate bars to other countries… \nI doubt there we’re many people living in England who speak no English back in those days", ">\n\nAugustus Gloop was German, though? I mean, maybe he was a German immigrant who moved to England, but I was always under the impression that he lived in Germany based on his and his parents' accents.", ">\n\nAnd I thought Mike was the American. What with all the cowboy gear. Could be from anywhere I guess.", ">\n\nYou are seeking logic in a movie where a piece of gum turns a girl into a blueberry… let that sink in", ">\n\n\"I do say, that song & dance all seemed a bit rehearsed!\" (Best line from the remake.)", ">\n\nTLDW - \nBetween 12% and 24%\nThe range is caused when the definition of “white person/English speaking” is changed", ">\n\nI'll bet when you consider that globalization want a thing in the 1920s and you eliminate basically all of Asia, Africa, and South America considering an American candy company's distribution network. The British kid was from a wealthy family who spent insane amounts of money to find a ticket. \nThe the German kid is the most odd to me. How popular has American chocolate ever been in Germany? I'm guessing that is not very popular and that since his family only seemed relatively well off, a trip to America may have been a prohibitive expense due nothing more than a candy factory tour.\nEdit: TIL that the story took place in England (definitely at the forefront of globalization, even in the 1920s). So, that pretty much destroys the logic of my argument.", ">\n\nKid was also a chubster who inhaled sweets like air.", ">\n\nTo be fair English speaking countries tend to be richer therefore more kids there will buy more chocolate and therefore are more likely to get the tickets (Eg. Veruca buying hundreds of chocolates will give her a higher probability of landing a golden ticket than Charlie who can only afford one). \nBut yeah the fact that they’re children makes it rigged. Like I’m sure a teenager or even an adult would’ve gotten one because they bought chocolates too not just the kids.", ">\n\nWhat's strange is that one of those children wasn't an English speaker in real life and just learned the few lives he had to say in English without actually understanding everything.", ">\n\nI mean, it's a good way to murder your kids for insurance money and have a good alibi.", ">\n\nNot that convenient as britan is a white English speaking country it would be weird if it was different is what you meant to say 🤔", ">\n\nGrandpa Joe didn't get out of bed for 20 years. He let everyone take care of him. He decided he could walk again to see Wankas chocolate factory.", ">\n\nI still remember:\nteacher \"And all they had to eat every day was spinach\"\ngirl sitting on floor \"But I dont like spinach\"\nteacher looks down from book \"Then you would die.\"\nclass shocked picachu face\nme, in the back, cant hold back the laughter\nkid next to me looks over, What's your problem? written on his fucking kid face\ni cant speak... only laugh/cry", ">\n\nDidn't the film theory guy on YT calculate the odds of that happening?", ">\n\nAugustus Gloop wasn’t English. He was German. Don’t think he talked English at all.", ">\n\nIt's as convenient in England during that time period as it would be today if in Mexico they had something, and all the winners spoke Spanish. In other words, it's not suspiciously convenient at all.", ">\n\nThats all depends on where wonka sells his chocolate bars right?", ">\n\nSo you can suspend disbelief long enough to accept a factory with a chocolate river and candy plants but all the kids who found tickets speak the same language is just too much..", ">\n\nOf all the unreasonable events related to that story, you found the least one.", ">\n\nAugustus Gloop was from Germany.\nMike Teevee was from the USA.", ">\n\nI mean, it was America in the 1920s ... not a real inclusive time period. Not a lot of globalization going on in the 1920s, in America.\nEdit: 1920s England it seems ... so a fair bit more globalization than I'd assumed", ">\n\nPlenty of black people though.\nEdit: got those who can’t be bothered reading the stupid Reddit argument below, Charlie was originally written as black, and his family was dirt poor.", ">\n\nWhat do you think that the black population in the US (or any country that a British candy maker would have exported to in the 1920s for that matter) was in the 1920s?", ">\n\nAbout 10,000,000, according to Wikipedia.", ">\n\nSounds right ... a little less than 10% of the population.\nAnd how; do you think, many were in a socioeconomic position to spend money on imported European chocolate.", ">\n\nWhy don’t you answer your own question? I was responding to your point about the lack of “globalization” in the US, not about purchasing power of black Americans in 1920.", ">\n\nNo, you're were taking a position to insinuate that I was taking a position. So that you could seem or just feel superior in the \"great virtue\" that comes with micro-focusing on meaningless and disjointed facts out of context on your socials, because no one usually objects or bothers to call you out on your bullshit. \nMy next point would've been about how familiar with the black experience in 1920s America, do you think that Roald Dahl (a British writer in the 1960s) was, to be able to confidently include that in his book.", ">\n\npaywall", ">\n\nYour point is taken, but it was four kids of the same age, and one peanut-sheller trying to keep a terrible job.", ">\n\nThey weren't all found by kids, one of them had their father buy up all the stock and have his factory open them all and get a ticket, Agustus was eating loads of chocolate anyway, so his was a high chance relative to others. Except for charlie, they had systems in place to find them. Maybe Mike as well. But the film doesn't show that,", ">\n\nConvenient or just common sense? Look at the demographics of the time, things make sense when you use logic.", ">\n\nMy Chinese mum held onto dried plumbs for 6 months when she was a kid. That’s how deprived of decent sweets China was in the 70’s", ">\n\nThe Oompah Lumpah uprising will spare none of the bourgeoisie.", ">\n\nIf you ask that monster grandpa Joe, he would disagree. And crop dust you with cabbage farts as he waltzed away.", ">\n\nOompa loompas are just for show. Behind the colourful fake factory, the real factory is dark, damp, cold, and staffed by migrant children" ]

[ "This is a friendly reminder to read our rules.\nRemember, /r/Showerthoughts is for showerthoughts, not \"thoughts had in the shower!\"\n(For an explanation of what a \"showerthought\" is, please read this page.)\nRule-breaking posts may result in bans.", ">\n\nI mean, one of them was German, and other than that it appeared to be a mix of British and American kids.", ">\n\nExactly. Put some respect on our bilingual king Augustus Gloop’s name OP! 🍫🇩🇪", ">\n\nFun fact! Did you know the actress who played his mother (Save some room for later!) was in a porn right around that time?", ">\n\nI didn't believe you, so I checked. This appears to be true!", ">\n\nI mean Michael Scott tried this and all the tickets went to the same company.", ">\n\nOmg maybe that episode was really just to shine light on the fact that there is a reason that all the tickets wound up going to the same demographic", ">\n\nNot really sure I’d consider Charlie Bucket and Veruca Salt as the same demographic.", ">\n\nPresumably old mate got confused between demographic and age bracket", ">\n\nAge is a demographic btw", ">\n\nOk. In the story, only Augustus Gloop and Mike Teavee are the same age (9), everyone else is a different age.\nBut why is it surprising that the main characters of a Roald Dahl Story are children? That’s kind of the point of all his children’s novels. \nThere is also almost always an element of magic, or at least the unexplained-possibly-paranormal in his books. In the novel, adults around the world searched like crazy for those tickets, but of course Wonka knows children will be the recipients because his factory, and indeed his candies, are made for children, and their imaginations. The tickets themselves were intended for children, never an adult.\nThe real convenience of it all lies in the the book being written for a target audience, and that audience is children… therefore, characters they relate to.", ">\n\nI wasn’t inherently disagreeing with you (I was responding to the person above who assumed you didn’t think age is a demographic), you can narrow the age demographic to whatever you want. I’d consider “children” to be a general age demographic, but if you want to split it up, that’s fair. \nUntil your response, I didn’t think you were referring to their age, but other points of their demographic profile (SES, culture, location, etc).", ">\n\nI’m sorry, I misunderstood! You are right in thinking I wasn’t referring to their age, btw. I agree they all fit an age demographic, but that’s hardly relevant compared to the social statuses Dahl has created for them.", ">\n\nIt's also incredibly convenient that Wonka's creepy-looking henchman was at the right time and place when all of them were discovered. Almost as if they were planted.", ">\n\nWell there was nothing \"incredibly convenient\" about the winners being English speakers. That was about 99% of the UK at the time.", ">\n\nBecause the only place willy wonkas factory shipped to was within the United Kingdoms borders?", ">\n\nExcept in the film (never read the book) it was implied Wonka’s chocolates shipped out all over the world. I mean, Augustus Gloop was Austrian/German.\nBut yeah, the fact that it was all children who got it would be statistically improbable.", ">\n\nMeh, more kids buy candy than adults, and every year there are more kids than adults.", ">\n\nRight, but the candy wasn’t the main prize. You got a lifetime supply of chocolate which could be sold hand over fist, which I’m sure plenty of adults considered in their quest to find the golden tickets. And plus an exclusive tour of the world’s most mysterious and profitable candy company would almost truly be a once in a lifetime event, and you’re telling me some rich celebrity wouldn’t swoop in and offer any one of those children $10mil cash for the golden ticket, just to have the prestige of going to Wonka’s factory? Just doesn’t add up.", ">\n\nTrue", ">\n\nHappy Cake Day, Jan", ">\n\nHappy what?", ">\n\nIt’s your cake day. Hence the little cake icon next to your username.", ">\n\nIt's because the thing was rigged from the start. Willy Wonka had no children of his own, so he was specifically looking for an heir to take over his empire.", ">\n\nAnd a few to murder.", ">\n\nAs you do", ">\n\nAs is tradition", ">\n\nAs You Were - LG", ">\n\nConsidering the children were all horrible can you think of the uproar on what nationality gets what arsehole behaviour.", ">\n\nI got the impression that Wonka had pretty elaborate plans for the kids, and selected them specifically to teach them lessons?", ">\n\nExactly. He chose Charlie, it was just the final test.", ">\n\nIn the gene wilder version, the candy store salesman admits he was hiding Wonka bars while they were auctioning for extreme prices. Why would a man in the business of selling candy for profit do that? Then, it's not until charlie says he wants to buy something for his grandfather that the candy seller chooses the type of bar for him, and that bar has the golden ticket. \nHe knew he had it, and was intentionally holding it for somebody who wasn't buying for themselves.", ">\n\nCharlie & the chocolate factory Lore", ">\n\nReminds me of how in Boruto, the main ladies of Naruto took a collective pregnancy pact to birth children in the same year.", ">\n\nWhat the fuck", ">\n\nThat's not literally what happened.\nThe naruto cast just had children in the same class at the start of boruto. Which makes kind of sense because Naruto ends with a giant war and those make people have children historically but it's also obviously to have a story in which all the original characters are involved through their children.\nBut it's also so obviously contrived that people joke they all made a pact to get pregnant at the same time because otherwise it's too convenient that they all have children at close to the same age.", ">\n\nThe kids of Boruto are literal baby boomers", ">\n\nThe book is set in 1960s England… What else would they speak?", ">\n\nAre you implying minorities didn't exist back in the 60s? Especially after the war?", ">\n\nNo, they're implying that in a book written in English and probably set in either England or America, the characters all speaking English is not at all surprising.", ">\n\nYou're completely missing out on OP's point by trying to be a contrarian", ">\n\nNo, I'm pointing out that it's a children's book that was written in English and set in a country where English is by far the most commonly spoken language. So the fact that the main characters are mostly children who speak English is not surprising at all. Disagreeing is not the same as being contrarian.", ">\n\nYou are missing out on OP's point", ">\n\nPlease do tell, o enlightened one! What point am I missing exactly?", ">\n\nOr maybe they just didn’t ship the golden ticket chocolate bars to other countries… \nI doubt there we’re many people living in England who speak no English back in those days", ">\n\nAugustus Gloop was German, though? I mean, maybe he was a German immigrant who moved to England, but I was always under the impression that he lived in Germany based on his and his parents' accents.", ">\n\nAnd I thought Mike was the American. What with all the cowboy gear. Could be from anywhere I guess.", ">\n\nYou are seeking logic in a movie where a piece of gum turns a girl into a blueberry… let that sink in", ">\n\n\"I do say, that song & dance all seemed a bit rehearsed!\" (Best line from the remake.)", ">\n\nTLDW - \nBetween 12% and 24%\nThe range is caused when the definition of “white person/English speaking” is changed", ">\n\nI'll bet when you consider that globalization want a thing in the 1920s and you eliminate basically all of Asia, Africa, and South America considering an American candy company's distribution network. The British kid was from a wealthy family who spent insane amounts of money to find a ticket. \nThe the German kid is the most odd to me. How popular has American chocolate ever been in Germany? I'm guessing that is not very popular and that since his family only seemed relatively well off, a trip to America may have been a prohibitive expense due nothing more than a candy factory tour.\nEdit: TIL that the story took place in England (definitely at the forefront of globalization, even in the 1920s). So, that pretty much destroys the logic of my argument.", ">\n\nKid was also a chubster who inhaled sweets like air.", ">\n\nTo be fair English speaking countries tend to be richer therefore more kids there will buy more chocolate and therefore are more likely to get the tickets (Eg. Veruca buying hundreds of chocolates will give her a higher probability of landing a golden ticket than Charlie who can only afford one). \nBut yeah the fact that they’re children makes it rigged. Like I’m sure a teenager or even an adult would’ve gotten one because they bought chocolates too not just the kids.", ">\n\nWhat's strange is that one of those children wasn't an English speaker in real life and just learned the few lives he had to say in English without actually understanding everything.", ">\n\nI mean, it's a good way to murder your kids for insurance money and have a good alibi.", ">\n\nNot that convenient as britan is a white English speaking country it would be weird if it was different is what you meant to say 🤔", ">\n\nGrandpa Joe didn't get out of bed for 20 years. He let everyone take care of him. He decided he could walk again to see Wankas chocolate factory.", ">\n\nI still remember:\nteacher \"And all they had to eat every day was spinach\"\ngirl sitting on floor \"But I dont like spinach\"\nteacher looks down from book \"Then you would die.\"\nclass shocked picachu face\nme, in the back, cant hold back the laughter\nkid next to me looks over, What's your problem? written on his fucking kid face\ni cant speak... only laugh/cry", ">\n\nDidn't the film theory guy on YT calculate the odds of that happening?", ">\n\nAugustus Gloop wasn’t English. He was German. Don’t think he talked English at all.", ">\n\nIt's as convenient in England during that time period as it would be today if in Mexico they had something, and all the winners spoke Spanish. In other words, it's not suspiciously convenient at all.", ">\n\nThats all depends on where wonka sells his chocolate bars right?", ">\n\nSo you can suspend disbelief long enough to accept a factory with a chocolate river and candy plants but all the kids who found tickets speak the same language is just too much..", ">\n\nOf all the unreasonable events related to that story, you found the least one.", ">\n\nAugustus Gloop was from Germany.\nMike Teevee was from the USA.", ">\n\nI mean, it was America in the 1920s ... not a real inclusive time period. Not a lot of globalization going on in the 1920s, in America.\nEdit: 1920s England it seems ... so a fair bit more globalization than I'd assumed", ">\n\nPlenty of black people though.\nEdit: got those who can’t be bothered reading the stupid Reddit argument below, Charlie was originally written as black, and his family was dirt poor.", ">\n\nWhat do you think that the black population in the US (or any country that a British candy maker would have exported to in the 1920s for that matter) was in the 1920s?", ">\n\nAbout 10,000,000, according to Wikipedia.", ">\n\nSounds right ... a little less than 10% of the population.\nAnd how; do you think, many were in a socioeconomic position to spend money on imported European chocolate.", ">\n\nWhy don’t you answer your own question? I was responding to your point about the lack of “globalization” in the US, not about purchasing power of black Americans in 1920.", ">\n\nNo, you're were taking a position to insinuate that I was taking a position. So that you could seem or just feel superior in the \"great virtue\" that comes with micro-focusing on meaningless and disjointed facts out of context on your socials, because no one usually objects or bothers to call you out on your bullshit. \nMy next point would've been about how familiar with the black experience in 1920s America, do you think that Roald Dahl (a British writer in the 1960s) was, to be able to confidently include that in his book.", ">\n\npaywall", ">\n\nYour point is taken, but it was four kids of the same age, and one peanut-sheller trying to keep a terrible job.", ">\n\nThey weren't all found by kids, one of them had their father buy up all the stock and have his factory open them all and get a ticket, Agustus was eating loads of chocolate anyway, so his was a high chance relative to others. Except for charlie, they had systems in place to find them. Maybe Mike as well. But the film doesn't show that,", ">\n\nConvenient or just common sense? Look at the demographics of the time, things make sense when you use logic.", ">\n\nMy Chinese mum held onto dried plumbs for 6 months when she was a kid. That’s how deprived of decent sweets China was in the 70’s", ">\n\nThe Oompah Lumpah uprising will spare none of the bourgeoisie.", ">\n\nIf you ask that monster grandpa Joe, he would disagree. And crop dust you with cabbage farts as he waltzed away.", ">\n\nOompa loompas are just for show. Behind the colourful fake factory, the real factory is dark, damp, cold, and staffed by migrant children", ">\n\nIn the original book, Oompa Loompas were explicitly described as dark-skinned African pygmies who insisted on wearing their native clothing of skins and leaves- and the kids went naked. \nHe found them in their native country being preyed upon constantly by \"Whangdoodles, the Hornswogglers, and the Snozzwangers\" and offered to take them to live in his factory and they were happy to be paid in cacao beans.\nWilly Wonka is in a TON of legal trouble. Massive immigration and labor law violations, arguably slavery, is only the start. Child endangerment, manslaughter/negligent homicide, unsafe food handling practices, environmental pollution, and running illegal sweepstakes. \nPlus, seeing how the factory is a huge toxic pit of civil and criminal legal entanglements, he tries to just give his illegal sweatshop away to a random kid in an attempt to walk away from it and leave Charlie responsible for the consequences- which, legally, won't work" ]

[ "This is a friendly reminder to read our rules.\nRemember, /r/Showerthoughts is for showerthoughts, not \"thoughts had in the shower!\"\n(For an explanation of what a \"showerthought\" is, please read this page.)\nRule-breaking posts may result in bans.", ">\n\nI mean, one of them was German, and other than that it appeared to be a mix of British and American kids.", ">\n\nExactly. Put some respect on our bilingual king Augustus Gloop’s name OP! 🍫🇩🇪", ">\n\nFun fact! Did you know the actress who played his mother (Save some room for later!) was in a porn right around that time?", ">\n\nI didn't believe you, so I checked. This appears to be true!", ">\n\nI mean Michael Scott tried this and all the tickets went to the same company.", ">\n\nOmg maybe that episode was really just to shine light on the fact that there is a reason that all the tickets wound up going to the same demographic", ">\n\nNot really sure I’d consider Charlie Bucket and Veruca Salt as the same demographic.", ">\n\nPresumably old mate got confused between demographic and age bracket", ">\n\nAge is a demographic btw", ">\n\nOk. In the story, only Augustus Gloop and Mike Teavee are the same age (9), everyone else is a different age.\nBut why is it surprising that the main characters of a Roald Dahl Story are children? That’s kind of the point of all his children’s novels. \nThere is also almost always an element of magic, or at least the unexplained-possibly-paranormal in his books. In the novel, adults around the world searched like crazy for those tickets, but of course Wonka knows children will be the recipients because his factory, and indeed his candies, are made for children, and their imaginations. The tickets themselves were intended for children, never an adult.\nThe real convenience of it all lies in the the book being written for a target audience, and that audience is children… therefore, characters they relate to.", ">\n\nI wasn’t inherently disagreeing with you (I was responding to the person above who assumed you didn’t think age is a demographic), you can narrow the age demographic to whatever you want. I’d consider “children” to be a general age demographic, but if you want to split it up, that’s fair. \nUntil your response, I didn’t think you were referring to their age, but other points of their demographic profile (SES, culture, location, etc).", ">\n\nI’m sorry, I misunderstood! You are right in thinking I wasn’t referring to their age, btw. I agree they all fit an age demographic, but that’s hardly relevant compared to the social statuses Dahl has created for them.", ">\n\nIt's also incredibly convenient that Wonka's creepy-looking henchman was at the right time and place when all of them were discovered. Almost as if they were planted.", ">\n\nWell there was nothing \"incredibly convenient\" about the winners being English speakers. That was about 99% of the UK at the time.", ">\n\nBecause the only place willy wonkas factory shipped to was within the United Kingdoms borders?", ">\n\nExcept in the film (never read the book) it was implied Wonka’s chocolates shipped out all over the world. I mean, Augustus Gloop was Austrian/German.\nBut yeah, the fact that it was all children who got it would be statistically improbable.", ">\n\nMeh, more kids buy candy than adults, and every year there are more kids than adults.", ">\n\nRight, but the candy wasn’t the main prize. You got a lifetime supply of chocolate which could be sold hand over fist, which I’m sure plenty of adults considered in their quest to find the golden tickets. And plus an exclusive tour of the world’s most mysterious and profitable candy company would almost truly be a once in a lifetime event, and you’re telling me some rich celebrity wouldn’t swoop in and offer any one of those children $10mil cash for the golden ticket, just to have the prestige of going to Wonka’s factory? Just doesn’t add up.", ">\n\nTrue", ">\n\nHappy Cake Day, Jan", ">\n\nHappy what?", ">\n\nIt’s your cake day. Hence the little cake icon next to your username.", ">\n\nIt's because the thing was rigged from the start. Willy Wonka had no children of his own, so he was specifically looking for an heir to take over his empire.", ">\n\nAnd a few to murder.", ">\n\nAs you do", ">\n\nAs is tradition", ">\n\nAs You Were - LG", ">\n\nConsidering the children were all horrible can you think of the uproar on what nationality gets what arsehole behaviour.", ">\n\nI got the impression that Wonka had pretty elaborate plans for the kids, and selected them specifically to teach them lessons?", ">\n\nExactly. He chose Charlie, it was just the final test.", ">\n\nIn the gene wilder version, the candy store salesman admits he was hiding Wonka bars while they were auctioning for extreme prices. Why would a man in the business of selling candy for profit do that? Then, it's not until charlie says he wants to buy something for his grandfather that the candy seller chooses the type of bar for him, and that bar has the golden ticket. \nHe knew he had it, and was intentionally holding it for somebody who wasn't buying for themselves.", ">\n\nCharlie & the chocolate factory Lore", ">\n\nReminds me of how in Boruto, the main ladies of Naruto took a collective pregnancy pact to birth children in the same year.", ">\n\nWhat the fuck", ">\n\nThat's not literally what happened.\nThe naruto cast just had children in the same class at the start of boruto. Which makes kind of sense because Naruto ends with a giant war and those make people have children historically but it's also obviously to have a story in which all the original characters are involved through their children.\nBut it's also so obviously contrived that people joke they all made a pact to get pregnant at the same time because otherwise it's too convenient that they all have children at close to the same age.", ">\n\nThe kids of Boruto are literal baby boomers", ">\n\nThe book is set in 1960s England… What else would they speak?", ">\n\nAre you implying minorities didn't exist back in the 60s? Especially after the war?", ">\n\nNo, they're implying that in a book written in English and probably set in either England or America, the characters all speaking English is not at all surprising.", ">\n\nYou're completely missing out on OP's point by trying to be a contrarian", ">\n\nNo, I'm pointing out that it's a children's book that was written in English and set in a country where English is by far the most commonly spoken language. So the fact that the main characters are mostly children who speak English is not surprising at all. Disagreeing is not the same as being contrarian.", ">\n\nYou are missing out on OP's point", ">\n\nPlease do tell, o enlightened one! What point am I missing exactly?", ">\n\nOr maybe they just didn’t ship the golden ticket chocolate bars to other countries… \nI doubt there we’re many people living in England who speak no English back in those days", ">\n\nAugustus Gloop was German, though? I mean, maybe he was a German immigrant who moved to England, but I was always under the impression that he lived in Germany based on his and his parents' accents.", ">\n\nAnd I thought Mike was the American. What with all the cowboy gear. Could be from anywhere I guess.", ">\n\nYou are seeking logic in a movie where a piece of gum turns a girl into a blueberry… let that sink in", ">\n\n\"I do say, that song & dance all seemed a bit rehearsed!\" (Best line from the remake.)", ">\n\nTLDW - \nBetween 12% and 24%\nThe range is caused when the definition of “white person/English speaking” is changed", ">\n\nI'll bet when you consider that globalization want a thing in the 1920s and you eliminate basically all of Asia, Africa, and South America considering an American candy company's distribution network. The British kid was from a wealthy family who spent insane amounts of money to find a ticket. \nThe the German kid is the most odd to me. How popular has American chocolate ever been in Germany? I'm guessing that is not very popular and that since his family only seemed relatively well off, a trip to America may have been a prohibitive expense due nothing more than a candy factory tour.\nEdit: TIL that the story took place in England (definitely at the forefront of globalization, even in the 1920s). So, that pretty much destroys the logic of my argument.", ">\n\nKid was also a chubster who inhaled sweets like air.", ">\n\nTo be fair English speaking countries tend to be richer therefore more kids there will buy more chocolate and therefore are more likely to get the tickets (Eg. Veruca buying hundreds of chocolates will give her a higher probability of landing a golden ticket than Charlie who can only afford one). \nBut yeah the fact that they’re children makes it rigged. Like I’m sure a teenager or even an adult would’ve gotten one because they bought chocolates too not just the kids.", ">\n\nWhat's strange is that one of those children wasn't an English speaker in real life and just learned the few lives he had to say in English without actually understanding everything.", ">\n\nI mean, it's a good way to murder your kids for insurance money and have a good alibi.", ">\n\nNot that convenient as britan is a white English speaking country it would be weird if it was different is what you meant to say 🤔", ">\n\nGrandpa Joe didn't get out of bed for 20 years. He let everyone take care of him. He decided he could walk again to see Wankas chocolate factory.", ">\n\nI still remember:\nteacher \"And all they had to eat every day was spinach\"\ngirl sitting on floor \"But I dont like spinach\"\nteacher looks down from book \"Then you would die.\"\nclass shocked picachu face\nme, in the back, cant hold back the laughter\nkid next to me looks over, What's your problem? written on his fucking kid face\ni cant speak... only laugh/cry", ">\n\nDidn't the film theory guy on YT calculate the odds of that happening?", ">\n\nAugustus Gloop wasn’t English. He was German. Don’t think he talked English at all.", ">\n\nIt's as convenient in England during that time period as it would be today if in Mexico they had something, and all the winners spoke Spanish. In other words, it's not suspiciously convenient at all.", ">\n\nThats all depends on where wonka sells his chocolate bars right?", ">\n\nSo you can suspend disbelief long enough to accept a factory with a chocolate river and candy plants but all the kids who found tickets speak the same language is just too much..", ">\n\nOf all the unreasonable events related to that story, you found the least one.", ">\n\nAugustus Gloop was from Germany.\nMike Teevee was from the USA.", ">\n\nI mean, it was America in the 1920s ... not a real inclusive time period. Not a lot of globalization going on in the 1920s, in America.\nEdit: 1920s England it seems ... so a fair bit more globalization than I'd assumed", ">\n\nPlenty of black people though.\nEdit: got those who can’t be bothered reading the stupid Reddit argument below, Charlie was originally written as black, and his family was dirt poor.", ">\n\nWhat do you think that the black population in the US (or any country that a British candy maker would have exported to in the 1920s for that matter) was in the 1920s?", ">\n\nAbout 10,000,000, according to Wikipedia.", ">\n\nSounds right ... a little less than 10% of the population.\nAnd how; do you think, many were in a socioeconomic position to spend money on imported European chocolate.", ">\n\nWhy don’t you answer your own question? I was responding to your point about the lack of “globalization” in the US, not about purchasing power of black Americans in 1920.", ">\n\nNo, you're were taking a position to insinuate that I was taking a position. So that you could seem or just feel superior in the \"great virtue\" that comes with micro-focusing on meaningless and disjointed facts out of context on your socials, because no one usually objects or bothers to call you out on your bullshit. \nMy next point would've been about how familiar with the black experience in 1920s America, do you think that Roald Dahl (a British writer in the 1960s) was, to be able to confidently include that in his book.", ">\n\npaywall", ">\n\nYour point is taken, but it was four kids of the same age, and one peanut-sheller trying to keep a terrible job.", ">\n\nThey weren't all found by kids, one of them had their father buy up all the stock and have his factory open them all and get a ticket, Agustus was eating loads of chocolate anyway, so his was a high chance relative to others. Except for charlie, they had systems in place to find them. Maybe Mike as well. But the film doesn't show that,", ">\n\nConvenient or just common sense? Look at the demographics of the time, things make sense when you use logic.", ">\n\nMy Chinese mum held onto dried plumbs for 6 months when she was a kid. That’s how deprived of decent sweets China was in the 70’s", ">\n\nThe Oompah Lumpah uprising will spare none of the bourgeoisie.", ">\n\nIf you ask that monster grandpa Joe, he would disagree. And crop dust you with cabbage farts as he waltzed away.", ">\n\nOompa loompas are just for show. Behind the colourful fake factory, the real factory is dark, damp, cold, and staffed by migrant children", ">\n\nIn the original book, Oompa Loompas were explicitly described as dark-skinned African pygmies who insisted on wearing their native clothing of skins and leaves- and the kids went naked. \nHe found them in their native country being preyed upon constantly by \"Whangdoodles, the Hornswogglers, and the Snozzwangers\" and offered to take them to live in his factory and they were happy to be paid in cacao beans.\nWilly Wonka is in a TON of legal trouble. Massive immigration and labor law violations, arguably slavery, is only the start. Child endangerment, manslaughter/negligent homicide, unsafe food handling practices, environmental pollution, and running illegal sweepstakes. \nPlus, seeing how the factory is a huge toxic pit of civil and criminal legal entanglements, he tries to just give his illegal sweatshop away to a random kid in an attempt to walk away from it and leave Charlie responsible for the consequences- which, legally, won't work", ">\n\nDid Augustus even speak? I remember his mom had a super thick accent." ]

[ "This is a friendly reminder to read our rules.\nRemember, /r/Showerthoughts is for showerthoughts, not \"thoughts had in the shower!\"\n(For an explanation of what a \"showerthought\" is, please read this page.)\nRule-breaking posts may result in bans.", ">\n\nI mean, one of them was German, and other than that it appeared to be a mix of British and American kids.", ">\n\nExactly. Put some respect on our bilingual king Augustus Gloop’s name OP! 🍫🇩🇪", ">\n\nFun fact! Did you know the actress who played his mother (Save some room for later!) was in a porn right around that time?", ">\n\nI didn't believe you, so I checked. This appears to be true!", ">\n\nI mean Michael Scott tried this and all the tickets went to the same company.", ">\n\nOmg maybe that episode was really just to shine light on the fact that there is a reason that all the tickets wound up going to the same demographic", ">\n\nNot really sure I’d consider Charlie Bucket and Veruca Salt as the same demographic.", ">\n\nPresumably old mate got confused between demographic and age bracket", ">\n\nAge is a demographic btw", ">\n\nOk. In the story, only Augustus Gloop and Mike Teavee are the same age (9), everyone else is a different age.\nBut why is it surprising that the main characters of a Roald Dahl Story are children? That’s kind of the point of all his children’s novels. \nThere is also almost always an element of magic, or at least the unexplained-possibly-paranormal in his books. In the novel, adults around the world searched like crazy for those tickets, but of course Wonka knows children will be the recipients because his factory, and indeed his candies, are made for children, and their imaginations. The tickets themselves were intended for children, never an adult.\nThe real convenience of it all lies in the the book being written for a target audience, and that audience is children… therefore, characters they relate to.", ">\n\nI wasn’t inherently disagreeing with you (I was responding to the person above who assumed you didn’t think age is a demographic), you can narrow the age demographic to whatever you want. I’d consider “children” to be a general age demographic, but if you want to split it up, that’s fair. \nUntil your response, I didn’t think you were referring to their age, but other points of their demographic profile (SES, culture, location, etc).", ">\n\nI’m sorry, I misunderstood! You are right in thinking I wasn’t referring to their age, btw. I agree they all fit an age demographic, but that’s hardly relevant compared to the social statuses Dahl has created for them.", ">\n\nIt's also incredibly convenient that Wonka's creepy-looking henchman was at the right time and place when all of them were discovered. Almost as if they were planted.", ">\n\nWell there was nothing \"incredibly convenient\" about the winners being English speakers. That was about 99% of the UK at the time.", ">\n\nBecause the only place willy wonkas factory shipped to was within the United Kingdoms borders?", ">\n\nExcept in the film (never read the book) it was implied Wonka’s chocolates shipped out all over the world. I mean, Augustus Gloop was Austrian/German.\nBut yeah, the fact that it was all children who got it would be statistically improbable.", ">\n\nMeh, more kids buy candy than adults, and every year there are more kids than adults.", ">\n\nRight, but the candy wasn’t the main prize. You got a lifetime supply of chocolate which could be sold hand over fist, which I’m sure plenty of adults considered in their quest to find the golden tickets. And plus an exclusive tour of the world’s most mysterious and profitable candy company would almost truly be a once in a lifetime event, and you’re telling me some rich celebrity wouldn’t swoop in and offer any one of those children $10mil cash for the golden ticket, just to have the prestige of going to Wonka’s factory? Just doesn’t add up.", ">\n\nTrue", ">\n\nHappy Cake Day, Jan", ">\n\nHappy what?", ">\n\nIt’s your cake day. Hence the little cake icon next to your username.", ">\n\nIt's because the thing was rigged from the start. Willy Wonka had no children of his own, so he was specifically looking for an heir to take over his empire.", ">\n\nAnd a few to murder.", ">\n\nAs you do", ">\n\nAs is tradition", ">\n\nAs You Were - LG", ">\n\nConsidering the children were all horrible can you think of the uproar on what nationality gets what arsehole behaviour.", ">\n\nI got the impression that Wonka had pretty elaborate plans for the kids, and selected them specifically to teach them lessons?", ">\n\nExactly. He chose Charlie, it was just the final test.", ">\n\nIn the gene wilder version, the candy store salesman admits he was hiding Wonka bars while they were auctioning for extreme prices. Why would a man in the business of selling candy for profit do that? Then, it's not until charlie says he wants to buy something for his grandfather that the candy seller chooses the type of bar for him, and that bar has the golden ticket. \nHe knew he had it, and was intentionally holding it for somebody who wasn't buying for themselves.", ">\n\nCharlie & the chocolate factory Lore", ">\n\nReminds me of how in Boruto, the main ladies of Naruto took a collective pregnancy pact to birth children in the same year.", ">\n\nWhat the fuck", ">\n\nThat's not literally what happened.\nThe naruto cast just had children in the same class at the start of boruto. Which makes kind of sense because Naruto ends with a giant war and those make people have children historically but it's also obviously to have a story in which all the original characters are involved through their children.\nBut it's also so obviously contrived that people joke they all made a pact to get pregnant at the same time because otherwise it's too convenient that they all have children at close to the same age.", ">\n\nThe kids of Boruto are literal baby boomers", ">\n\nThe book is set in 1960s England… What else would they speak?", ">\n\nAre you implying minorities didn't exist back in the 60s? Especially after the war?", ">\n\nNo, they're implying that in a book written in English and probably set in either England or America, the characters all speaking English is not at all surprising.", ">\n\nYou're completely missing out on OP's point by trying to be a contrarian", ">\n\nNo, I'm pointing out that it's a children's book that was written in English and set in a country where English is by far the most commonly spoken language. So the fact that the main characters are mostly children who speak English is not surprising at all. Disagreeing is not the same as being contrarian.", ">\n\nYou are missing out on OP's point", ">\n\nPlease do tell, o enlightened one! What point am I missing exactly?", ">\n\nOr maybe they just didn’t ship the golden ticket chocolate bars to other countries… \nI doubt there we’re many people living in England who speak no English back in those days", ">\n\nAugustus Gloop was German, though? I mean, maybe he was a German immigrant who moved to England, but I was always under the impression that he lived in Germany based on his and his parents' accents.", ">\n\nAnd I thought Mike was the American. What with all the cowboy gear. Could be from anywhere I guess.", ">\n\nYou are seeking logic in a movie where a piece of gum turns a girl into a blueberry… let that sink in", ">\n\n\"I do say, that song & dance all seemed a bit rehearsed!\" (Best line from the remake.)", ">\n\nTLDW - \nBetween 12% and 24%\nThe range is caused when the definition of “white person/English speaking” is changed", ">\n\nI'll bet when you consider that globalization want a thing in the 1920s and you eliminate basically all of Asia, Africa, and South America considering an American candy company's distribution network. The British kid was from a wealthy family who spent insane amounts of money to find a ticket. \nThe the German kid is the most odd to me. How popular has American chocolate ever been in Germany? I'm guessing that is not very popular and that since his family only seemed relatively well off, a trip to America may have been a prohibitive expense due nothing more than a candy factory tour.\nEdit: TIL that the story took place in England (definitely at the forefront of globalization, even in the 1920s). So, that pretty much destroys the logic of my argument.", ">\n\nKid was also a chubster who inhaled sweets like air.", ">\n\nTo be fair English speaking countries tend to be richer therefore more kids there will buy more chocolate and therefore are more likely to get the tickets (Eg. Veruca buying hundreds of chocolates will give her a higher probability of landing a golden ticket than Charlie who can only afford one). \nBut yeah the fact that they’re children makes it rigged. Like I’m sure a teenager or even an adult would’ve gotten one because they bought chocolates too not just the kids.", ">\n\nWhat's strange is that one of those children wasn't an English speaker in real life and just learned the few lives he had to say in English without actually understanding everything.", ">\n\nI mean, it's a good way to murder your kids for insurance money and have a good alibi.", ">\n\nNot that convenient as britan is a white English speaking country it would be weird if it was different is what you meant to say 🤔", ">\n\nGrandpa Joe didn't get out of bed for 20 years. He let everyone take care of him. He decided he could walk again to see Wankas chocolate factory.", ">\n\nI still remember:\nteacher \"And all they had to eat every day was spinach\"\ngirl sitting on floor \"But I dont like spinach\"\nteacher looks down from book \"Then you would die.\"\nclass shocked picachu face\nme, in the back, cant hold back the laughter\nkid next to me looks over, What's your problem? written on his fucking kid face\ni cant speak... only laugh/cry", ">\n\nDidn't the film theory guy on YT calculate the odds of that happening?", ">\n\nAugustus Gloop wasn’t English. He was German. Don’t think he talked English at all.", ">\n\nIt's as convenient in England during that time period as it would be today if in Mexico they had something, and all the winners spoke Spanish. In other words, it's not suspiciously convenient at all.", ">\n\nThats all depends on where wonka sells his chocolate bars right?", ">\n\nSo you can suspend disbelief long enough to accept a factory with a chocolate river and candy plants but all the kids who found tickets speak the same language is just too much..", ">\n\nOf all the unreasonable events related to that story, you found the least one.", ">\n\nAugustus Gloop was from Germany.\nMike Teevee was from the USA.", ">\n\nI mean, it was America in the 1920s ... not a real inclusive time period. Not a lot of globalization going on in the 1920s, in America.\nEdit: 1920s England it seems ... so a fair bit more globalization than I'd assumed", ">\n\nPlenty of black people though.\nEdit: got those who can’t be bothered reading the stupid Reddit argument below, Charlie was originally written as black, and his family was dirt poor.", ">\n\nWhat do you think that the black population in the US (or any country that a British candy maker would have exported to in the 1920s for that matter) was in the 1920s?", ">\n\nAbout 10,000,000, according to Wikipedia.", ">\n\nSounds right ... a little less than 10% of the population.\nAnd how; do you think, many were in a socioeconomic position to spend money on imported European chocolate.", ">\n\nWhy don’t you answer your own question? I was responding to your point about the lack of “globalization” in the US, not about purchasing power of black Americans in 1920.", ">\n\nNo, you're were taking a position to insinuate that I was taking a position. So that you could seem or just feel superior in the \"great virtue\" that comes with micro-focusing on meaningless and disjointed facts out of context on your socials, because no one usually objects or bothers to call you out on your bullshit. \nMy next point would've been about how familiar with the black experience in 1920s America, do you think that Roald Dahl (a British writer in the 1960s) was, to be able to confidently include that in his book.", ">\n\npaywall", ">\n\nYour point is taken, but it was four kids of the same age, and one peanut-sheller trying to keep a terrible job.", ">\n\nThey weren't all found by kids, one of them had their father buy up all the stock and have his factory open them all and get a ticket, Agustus was eating loads of chocolate anyway, so his was a high chance relative to others. Except for charlie, they had systems in place to find them. Maybe Mike as well. But the film doesn't show that,", ">\n\nConvenient or just common sense? Look at the demographics of the time, things make sense when you use logic.", ">\n\nMy Chinese mum held onto dried plumbs for 6 months when she was a kid. That’s how deprived of decent sweets China was in the 70’s", ">\n\nThe Oompah Lumpah uprising will spare none of the bourgeoisie.", ">\n\nIf you ask that monster grandpa Joe, he would disagree. And crop dust you with cabbage farts as he waltzed away.", ">\n\nOompa loompas are just for show. Behind the colourful fake factory, the real factory is dark, damp, cold, and staffed by migrant children", ">\n\nIn the original book, Oompa Loompas were explicitly described as dark-skinned African pygmies who insisted on wearing their native clothing of skins and leaves- and the kids went naked. \nHe found them in their native country being preyed upon constantly by \"Whangdoodles, the Hornswogglers, and the Snozzwangers\" and offered to take them to live in his factory and they were happy to be paid in cacao beans.\nWilly Wonka is in a TON of legal trouble. Massive immigration and labor law violations, arguably slavery, is only the start. Child endangerment, manslaughter/negligent homicide, unsafe food handling practices, environmental pollution, and running illegal sweepstakes. \nPlus, seeing how the factory is a huge toxic pit of civil and criminal legal entanglements, he tries to just give his illegal sweatshop away to a random kid in an attempt to walk away from it and leave Charlie responsible for the consequences- which, legally, won't work", ">\n\nDid Augustus even speak? I remember his mom had a super thick accent.", ">\n\nHe did, but it was minimal dialogue. I think he offers Charlie some chocolate and makes a comment about eating more candy" ]

[ "This is a friendly reminder to read our rules.\nRemember, /r/Showerthoughts is for showerthoughts, not \"thoughts had in the shower!\"\n(For an explanation of what a \"showerthought\" is, please read this page.)\nRule-breaking posts may result in bans.", ">\n\nI mean, one of them was German, and other than that it appeared to be a mix of British and American kids.", ">\n\nExactly. Put some respect on our bilingual king Augustus Gloop’s name OP! 🍫🇩🇪", ">\n\nFun fact! Did you know the actress who played his mother (Save some room for later!) was in a porn right around that time?", ">\n\nI didn't believe you, so I checked. This appears to be true!", ">\n\nI mean Michael Scott tried this and all the tickets went to the same company.", ">\n\nOmg maybe that episode was really just to shine light on the fact that there is a reason that all the tickets wound up going to the same demographic", ">\n\nNot really sure I’d consider Charlie Bucket and Veruca Salt as the same demographic.", ">\n\nPresumably old mate got confused between demographic and age bracket", ">\n\nAge is a demographic btw", ">\n\nOk. In the story, only Augustus Gloop and Mike Teavee are the same age (9), everyone else is a different age.\nBut why is it surprising that the main characters of a Roald Dahl Story are children? That’s kind of the point of all his children’s novels. \nThere is also almost always an element of magic, or at least the unexplained-possibly-paranormal in his books. In the novel, adults around the world searched like crazy for those tickets, but of course Wonka knows children will be the recipients because his factory, and indeed his candies, are made for children, and their imaginations. The tickets themselves were intended for children, never an adult.\nThe real convenience of it all lies in the the book being written for a target audience, and that audience is children… therefore, characters they relate to.", ">\n\nI wasn’t inherently disagreeing with you (I was responding to the person above who assumed you didn’t think age is a demographic), you can narrow the age demographic to whatever you want. I’d consider “children” to be a general age demographic, but if you want to split it up, that’s fair. \nUntil your response, I didn’t think you were referring to their age, but other points of their demographic profile (SES, culture, location, etc).", ">\n\nI’m sorry, I misunderstood! You are right in thinking I wasn’t referring to their age, btw. I agree they all fit an age demographic, but that’s hardly relevant compared to the social statuses Dahl has created for them.", ">\n\nIt's also incredibly convenient that Wonka's creepy-looking henchman was at the right time and place when all of them were discovered. Almost as if they were planted.", ">\n\nWell there was nothing \"incredibly convenient\" about the winners being English speakers. That was about 99% of the UK at the time.", ">\n\nBecause the only place willy wonkas factory shipped to was within the United Kingdoms borders?", ">\n\nExcept in the film (never read the book) it was implied Wonka’s chocolates shipped out all over the world. I mean, Augustus Gloop was Austrian/German.\nBut yeah, the fact that it was all children who got it would be statistically improbable.", ">\n\nMeh, more kids buy candy than adults, and every year there are more kids than adults.", ">\n\nRight, but the candy wasn’t the main prize. You got a lifetime supply of chocolate which could be sold hand over fist, which I’m sure plenty of adults considered in their quest to find the golden tickets. And plus an exclusive tour of the world’s most mysterious and profitable candy company would almost truly be a once in a lifetime event, and you’re telling me some rich celebrity wouldn’t swoop in and offer any one of those children $10mil cash for the golden ticket, just to have the prestige of going to Wonka’s factory? Just doesn’t add up.", ">\n\nTrue", ">\n\nHappy Cake Day, Jan", ">\n\nHappy what?", ">\n\nIt’s your cake day. Hence the little cake icon next to your username.", ">\n\nIt's because the thing was rigged from the start. Willy Wonka had no children of his own, so he was specifically looking for an heir to take over his empire.", ">\n\nAnd a few to murder.", ">\n\nAs you do", ">\n\nAs is tradition", ">\n\nAs You Were - LG", ">\n\nConsidering the children were all horrible can you think of the uproar on what nationality gets what arsehole behaviour.", ">\n\nI got the impression that Wonka had pretty elaborate plans for the kids, and selected them specifically to teach them lessons?", ">\n\nExactly. He chose Charlie, it was just the final test.", ">\n\nIn the gene wilder version, the candy store salesman admits he was hiding Wonka bars while they were auctioning for extreme prices. Why would a man in the business of selling candy for profit do that? Then, it's not until charlie says he wants to buy something for his grandfather that the candy seller chooses the type of bar for him, and that bar has the golden ticket. \nHe knew he had it, and was intentionally holding it for somebody who wasn't buying for themselves.", ">\n\nCharlie & the chocolate factory Lore", ">\n\nReminds me of how in Boruto, the main ladies of Naruto took a collective pregnancy pact to birth children in the same year.", ">\n\nWhat the fuck", ">\n\nThat's not literally what happened.\nThe naruto cast just had children in the same class at the start of boruto. Which makes kind of sense because Naruto ends with a giant war and those make people have children historically but it's also obviously to have a story in which all the original characters are involved through their children.\nBut it's also so obviously contrived that people joke they all made a pact to get pregnant at the same time because otherwise it's too convenient that they all have children at close to the same age.", ">\n\nThe kids of Boruto are literal baby boomers", ">\n\nThe book is set in 1960s England… What else would they speak?", ">\n\nAre you implying minorities didn't exist back in the 60s? Especially after the war?", ">\n\nNo, they're implying that in a book written in English and probably set in either England or America, the characters all speaking English is not at all surprising.", ">\n\nYou're completely missing out on OP's point by trying to be a contrarian", ">\n\nNo, I'm pointing out that it's a children's book that was written in English and set in a country where English is by far the most commonly spoken language. So the fact that the main characters are mostly children who speak English is not surprising at all. Disagreeing is not the same as being contrarian.", ">\n\nYou are missing out on OP's point", ">\n\nPlease do tell, o enlightened one! What point am I missing exactly?", ">\n\nOr maybe they just didn’t ship the golden ticket chocolate bars to other countries… \nI doubt there we’re many people living in England who speak no English back in those days", ">\n\nAugustus Gloop was German, though? I mean, maybe he was a German immigrant who moved to England, but I was always under the impression that he lived in Germany based on his and his parents' accents.", ">\n\nAnd I thought Mike was the American. What with all the cowboy gear. Could be from anywhere I guess.", ">\n\nYou are seeking logic in a movie where a piece of gum turns a girl into a blueberry… let that sink in", ">\n\n\"I do say, that song & dance all seemed a bit rehearsed!\" (Best line from the remake.)", ">\n\nTLDW - \nBetween 12% and 24%\nThe range is caused when the definition of “white person/English speaking” is changed", ">\n\nI'll bet when you consider that globalization want a thing in the 1920s and you eliminate basically all of Asia, Africa, and South America considering an American candy company's distribution network. The British kid was from a wealthy family who spent insane amounts of money to find a ticket. \nThe the German kid is the most odd to me. How popular has American chocolate ever been in Germany? I'm guessing that is not very popular and that since his family only seemed relatively well off, a trip to America may have been a prohibitive expense due nothing more than a candy factory tour.\nEdit: TIL that the story took place in England (definitely at the forefront of globalization, even in the 1920s). So, that pretty much destroys the logic of my argument.", ">\n\nKid was also a chubster who inhaled sweets like air.", ">\n\nTo be fair English speaking countries tend to be richer therefore more kids there will buy more chocolate and therefore are more likely to get the tickets (Eg. Veruca buying hundreds of chocolates will give her a higher probability of landing a golden ticket than Charlie who can only afford one). \nBut yeah the fact that they’re children makes it rigged. Like I’m sure a teenager or even an adult would’ve gotten one because they bought chocolates too not just the kids.", ">\n\nWhat's strange is that one of those children wasn't an English speaker in real life and just learned the few lives he had to say in English without actually understanding everything.", ">\n\nI mean, it's a good way to murder your kids for insurance money and have a good alibi.", ">\n\nNot that convenient as britan is a white English speaking country it would be weird if it was different is what you meant to say 🤔", ">\n\nGrandpa Joe didn't get out of bed for 20 years. He let everyone take care of him. He decided he could walk again to see Wankas chocolate factory.", ">\n\nI still remember:\nteacher \"And all they had to eat every day was spinach\"\ngirl sitting on floor \"But I dont like spinach\"\nteacher looks down from book \"Then you would die.\"\nclass shocked picachu face\nme, in the back, cant hold back the laughter\nkid next to me looks over, What's your problem? written on his fucking kid face\ni cant speak... only laugh/cry", ">\n\nDidn't the film theory guy on YT calculate the odds of that happening?", ">\n\nAugustus Gloop wasn’t English. He was German. Don’t think he talked English at all.", ">\n\nIt's as convenient in England during that time period as it would be today if in Mexico they had something, and all the winners spoke Spanish. In other words, it's not suspiciously convenient at all.", ">\n\nThats all depends on where wonka sells his chocolate bars right?", ">\n\nSo you can suspend disbelief long enough to accept a factory with a chocolate river and candy plants but all the kids who found tickets speak the same language is just too much..", ">\n\nOf all the unreasonable events related to that story, you found the least one.", ">\n\nAugustus Gloop was from Germany.\nMike Teevee was from the USA.", ">\n\nI mean, it was America in the 1920s ... not a real inclusive time period. Not a lot of globalization going on in the 1920s, in America.\nEdit: 1920s England it seems ... so a fair bit more globalization than I'd assumed", ">\n\nPlenty of black people though.\nEdit: got those who can’t be bothered reading the stupid Reddit argument below, Charlie was originally written as black, and his family was dirt poor.", ">\n\nWhat do you think that the black population in the US (or any country that a British candy maker would have exported to in the 1920s for that matter) was in the 1920s?", ">\n\nAbout 10,000,000, according to Wikipedia.", ">\n\nSounds right ... a little less than 10% of the population.\nAnd how; do you think, many were in a socioeconomic position to spend money on imported European chocolate.", ">\n\nWhy don’t you answer your own question? I was responding to your point about the lack of “globalization” in the US, not about purchasing power of black Americans in 1920.", ">\n\nNo, you're were taking a position to insinuate that I was taking a position. So that you could seem or just feel superior in the \"great virtue\" that comes with micro-focusing on meaningless and disjointed facts out of context on your socials, because no one usually objects or bothers to call you out on your bullshit. \nMy next point would've been about how familiar with the black experience in 1920s America, do you think that Roald Dahl (a British writer in the 1960s) was, to be able to confidently include that in his book.", ">\n\npaywall", ">\n\nYour point is taken, but it was four kids of the same age, and one peanut-sheller trying to keep a terrible job.", ">\n\nThey weren't all found by kids, one of them had their father buy up all the stock and have his factory open them all and get a ticket, Agustus was eating loads of chocolate anyway, so his was a high chance relative to others. Except for charlie, they had systems in place to find them. Maybe Mike as well. But the film doesn't show that,", ">\n\nConvenient or just common sense? Look at the demographics of the time, things make sense when you use logic.", ">\n\nMy Chinese mum held onto dried plumbs for 6 months when she was a kid. That’s how deprived of decent sweets China was in the 70’s", ">\n\nThe Oompah Lumpah uprising will spare none of the bourgeoisie.", ">\n\nIf you ask that monster grandpa Joe, he would disagree. And crop dust you with cabbage farts as he waltzed away.", ">\n\nOompa loompas are just for show. Behind the colourful fake factory, the real factory is dark, damp, cold, and staffed by migrant children", ">\n\nIn the original book, Oompa Loompas were explicitly described as dark-skinned African pygmies who insisted on wearing their native clothing of skins and leaves- and the kids went naked. \nHe found them in their native country being preyed upon constantly by \"Whangdoodles, the Hornswogglers, and the Snozzwangers\" and offered to take them to live in his factory and they were happy to be paid in cacao beans.\nWilly Wonka is in a TON of legal trouble. Massive immigration and labor law violations, arguably slavery, is only the start. Child endangerment, manslaughter/negligent homicide, unsafe food handling practices, environmental pollution, and running illegal sweepstakes. \nPlus, seeing how the factory is a huge toxic pit of civil and criminal legal entanglements, he tries to just give his illegal sweatshop away to a random kid in an attempt to walk away from it and leave Charlie responsible for the consequences- which, legally, won't work", ">\n\nDid Augustus even speak? I remember his mom had a super thick accent.", ">\n\nHe did, but it was minimal dialogue. I think he offers Charlie some chocolate and makes a comment about eating more candy", ">\n\nIt's the same premise behind all the aliens invading Earth on Doctor Who starting with the UK." ]

[ "This is a friendly reminder to read our rules.\nRemember, /r/Showerthoughts is for showerthoughts, not \"thoughts had in the shower!\"\n(For an explanation of what a \"showerthought\" is, please read this page.)\nRule-breaking posts may result in bans.", ">\n\nI mean, one of them was German, and other than that it appeared to be a mix of British and American kids.", ">\n\nExactly. Put some respect on our bilingual king Augustus Gloop’s name OP! 🍫🇩🇪", ">\n\nFun fact! Did you know the actress who played his mother (Save some room for later!) was in a porn right around that time?", ">\n\nI didn't believe you, so I checked. This appears to be true!", ">\n\nI mean Michael Scott tried this and all the tickets went to the same company.", ">\n\nOmg maybe that episode was really just to shine light on the fact that there is a reason that all the tickets wound up going to the same demographic", ">\n\nNot really sure I’d consider Charlie Bucket and Veruca Salt as the same demographic.", ">\n\nPresumably old mate got confused between demographic and age bracket", ">\n\nAge is a demographic btw", ">\n\nOk. In the story, only Augustus Gloop and Mike Teavee are the same age (9), everyone else is a different age.\nBut why is it surprising that the main characters of a Roald Dahl Story are children? That’s kind of the point of all his children’s novels. \nThere is also almost always an element of magic, or at least the unexplained-possibly-paranormal in his books. In the novel, adults around the world searched like crazy for those tickets, but of course Wonka knows children will be the recipients because his factory, and indeed his candies, are made for children, and their imaginations. The tickets themselves were intended for children, never an adult.\nThe real convenience of it all lies in the the book being written for a target audience, and that audience is children… therefore, characters they relate to.", ">\n\nI wasn’t inherently disagreeing with you (I was responding to the person above who assumed you didn’t think age is a demographic), you can narrow the age demographic to whatever you want. I’d consider “children” to be a general age demographic, but if you want to split it up, that’s fair. \nUntil your response, I didn’t think you were referring to their age, but other points of their demographic profile (SES, culture, location, etc).", ">\n\nI’m sorry, I misunderstood! You are right in thinking I wasn’t referring to their age, btw. I agree they all fit an age demographic, but that’s hardly relevant compared to the social statuses Dahl has created for them.", ">\n\nIt's also incredibly convenient that Wonka's creepy-looking henchman was at the right time and place when all of them were discovered. Almost as if they were planted.", ">\n\nWell there was nothing \"incredibly convenient\" about the winners being English speakers. That was about 99% of the UK at the time.", ">\n\nBecause the only place willy wonkas factory shipped to was within the United Kingdoms borders?", ">\n\nExcept in the film (never read the book) it was implied Wonka’s chocolates shipped out all over the world. I mean, Augustus Gloop was Austrian/German.\nBut yeah, the fact that it was all children who got it would be statistically improbable.", ">\n\nMeh, more kids buy candy than adults, and every year there are more kids than adults.", ">\n\nRight, but the candy wasn’t the main prize. You got a lifetime supply of chocolate which could be sold hand over fist, which I’m sure plenty of adults considered in their quest to find the golden tickets. And plus an exclusive tour of the world’s most mysterious and profitable candy company would almost truly be a once in a lifetime event, and you’re telling me some rich celebrity wouldn’t swoop in and offer any one of those children $10mil cash for the golden ticket, just to have the prestige of going to Wonka’s factory? Just doesn’t add up.", ">\n\nTrue", ">\n\nHappy Cake Day, Jan", ">\n\nHappy what?", ">\n\nIt’s your cake day. Hence the little cake icon next to your username.", ">\n\nIt's because the thing was rigged from the start. Willy Wonka had no children of his own, so he was specifically looking for an heir to take over his empire.", ">\n\nAnd a few to murder.", ">\n\nAs you do", ">\n\nAs is tradition", ">\n\nAs You Were - LG", ">\n\nConsidering the children were all horrible can you think of the uproar on what nationality gets what arsehole behaviour.", ">\n\nI got the impression that Wonka had pretty elaborate plans for the kids, and selected them specifically to teach them lessons?", ">\n\nExactly. He chose Charlie, it was just the final test.", ">\n\nIn the gene wilder version, the candy store salesman admits he was hiding Wonka bars while they were auctioning for extreme prices. Why would a man in the business of selling candy for profit do that? Then, it's not until charlie says he wants to buy something for his grandfather that the candy seller chooses the type of bar for him, and that bar has the golden ticket. \nHe knew he had it, and was intentionally holding it for somebody who wasn't buying for themselves.", ">\n\nCharlie & the chocolate factory Lore", ">\n\nReminds me of how in Boruto, the main ladies of Naruto took a collective pregnancy pact to birth children in the same year.", ">\n\nWhat the fuck", ">\n\nThat's not literally what happened.\nThe naruto cast just had children in the same class at the start of boruto. Which makes kind of sense because Naruto ends with a giant war and those make people have children historically but it's also obviously to have a story in which all the original characters are involved through their children.\nBut it's also so obviously contrived that people joke they all made a pact to get pregnant at the same time because otherwise it's too convenient that they all have children at close to the same age.", ">\n\nThe kids of Boruto are literal baby boomers", ">\n\nThe book is set in 1960s England… What else would they speak?", ">\n\nAre you implying minorities didn't exist back in the 60s? Especially after the war?", ">\n\nNo, they're implying that in a book written in English and probably set in either England or America, the characters all speaking English is not at all surprising.", ">\n\nYou're completely missing out on OP's point by trying to be a contrarian", ">\n\nNo, I'm pointing out that it's a children's book that was written in English and set in a country where English is by far the most commonly spoken language. So the fact that the main characters are mostly children who speak English is not surprising at all. Disagreeing is not the same as being contrarian.", ">\n\nYou are missing out on OP's point", ">\n\nPlease do tell, o enlightened one! What point am I missing exactly?", ">\n\nOr maybe they just didn’t ship the golden ticket chocolate bars to other countries… \nI doubt there we’re many people living in England who speak no English back in those days", ">\n\nAugustus Gloop was German, though? I mean, maybe he was a German immigrant who moved to England, but I was always under the impression that he lived in Germany based on his and his parents' accents.", ">\n\nAnd I thought Mike was the American. What with all the cowboy gear. Could be from anywhere I guess.", ">\n\nYou are seeking logic in a movie where a piece of gum turns a girl into a blueberry… let that sink in", ">\n\n\"I do say, that song & dance all seemed a bit rehearsed!\" (Best line from the remake.)", ">\n\nTLDW - \nBetween 12% and 24%\nThe range is caused when the definition of “white person/English speaking” is changed", ">\n\nI'll bet when you consider that globalization want a thing in the 1920s and you eliminate basically all of Asia, Africa, and South America considering an American candy company's distribution network. The British kid was from a wealthy family who spent insane amounts of money to find a ticket. \nThe the German kid is the most odd to me. How popular has American chocolate ever been in Germany? I'm guessing that is not very popular and that since his family only seemed relatively well off, a trip to America may have been a prohibitive expense due nothing more than a candy factory tour.\nEdit: TIL that the story took place in England (definitely at the forefront of globalization, even in the 1920s). So, that pretty much destroys the logic of my argument.", ">\n\nKid was also a chubster who inhaled sweets like air.", ">\n\nTo be fair English speaking countries tend to be richer therefore more kids there will buy more chocolate and therefore are more likely to get the tickets (Eg. Veruca buying hundreds of chocolates will give her a higher probability of landing a golden ticket than Charlie who can only afford one). \nBut yeah the fact that they’re children makes it rigged. Like I’m sure a teenager or even an adult would’ve gotten one because they bought chocolates too not just the kids.", ">\n\nWhat's strange is that one of those children wasn't an English speaker in real life and just learned the few lives he had to say in English without actually understanding everything.", ">\n\nI mean, it's a good way to murder your kids for insurance money and have a good alibi.", ">\n\nNot that convenient as britan is a white English speaking country it would be weird if it was different is what you meant to say 🤔", ">\n\nGrandpa Joe didn't get out of bed for 20 years. He let everyone take care of him. He decided he could walk again to see Wankas chocolate factory.", ">\n\nI still remember:\nteacher \"And all they had to eat every day was spinach\"\ngirl sitting on floor \"But I dont like spinach\"\nteacher looks down from book \"Then you would die.\"\nclass shocked picachu face\nme, in the back, cant hold back the laughter\nkid next to me looks over, What's your problem? written on his fucking kid face\ni cant speak... only laugh/cry", ">\n\nDidn't the film theory guy on YT calculate the odds of that happening?", ">\n\nAugustus Gloop wasn’t English. He was German. Don’t think he talked English at all.", ">\n\nIt's as convenient in England during that time period as it would be today if in Mexico they had something, and all the winners spoke Spanish. In other words, it's not suspiciously convenient at all.", ">\n\nThats all depends on where wonka sells his chocolate bars right?", ">\n\nSo you can suspend disbelief long enough to accept a factory with a chocolate river and candy plants but all the kids who found tickets speak the same language is just too much..", ">\n\nOf all the unreasonable events related to that story, you found the least one.", ">\n\nAugustus Gloop was from Germany.\nMike Teevee was from the USA.", ">\n\nI mean, it was America in the 1920s ... not a real inclusive time period. Not a lot of globalization going on in the 1920s, in America.\nEdit: 1920s England it seems ... so a fair bit more globalization than I'd assumed", ">\n\nPlenty of black people though.\nEdit: got those who can’t be bothered reading the stupid Reddit argument below, Charlie was originally written as black, and his family was dirt poor.", ">\n\nWhat do you think that the black population in the US (or any country that a British candy maker would have exported to in the 1920s for that matter) was in the 1920s?", ">\n\nAbout 10,000,000, according to Wikipedia.", ">\n\nSounds right ... a little less than 10% of the population.\nAnd how; do you think, many were in a socioeconomic position to spend money on imported European chocolate.", ">\n\nWhy don’t you answer your own question? I was responding to your point about the lack of “globalization” in the US, not about purchasing power of black Americans in 1920.", ">\n\nNo, you're were taking a position to insinuate that I was taking a position. So that you could seem or just feel superior in the \"great virtue\" that comes with micro-focusing on meaningless and disjointed facts out of context on your socials, because no one usually objects or bothers to call you out on your bullshit. \nMy next point would've been about how familiar with the black experience in 1920s America, do you think that Roald Dahl (a British writer in the 1960s) was, to be able to confidently include that in his book.", ">\n\npaywall", ">\n\nYour point is taken, but it was four kids of the same age, and one peanut-sheller trying to keep a terrible job.", ">\n\nThey weren't all found by kids, one of them had their father buy up all the stock and have his factory open them all and get a ticket, Agustus was eating loads of chocolate anyway, so his was a high chance relative to others. Except for charlie, they had systems in place to find them. Maybe Mike as well. But the film doesn't show that,", ">\n\nConvenient or just common sense? Look at the demographics of the time, things make sense when you use logic.", ">\n\nMy Chinese mum held onto dried plumbs for 6 months when she was a kid. That’s how deprived of decent sweets China was in the 70’s", ">\n\nThe Oompah Lumpah uprising will spare none of the bourgeoisie.", ">\n\nIf you ask that monster grandpa Joe, he would disagree. And crop dust you with cabbage farts as he waltzed away.", ">\n\nOompa loompas are just for show. Behind the colourful fake factory, the real factory is dark, damp, cold, and staffed by migrant children", ">\n\nIn the original book, Oompa Loompas were explicitly described as dark-skinned African pygmies who insisted on wearing their native clothing of skins and leaves- and the kids went naked. \nHe found them in their native country being preyed upon constantly by \"Whangdoodles, the Hornswogglers, and the Snozzwangers\" and offered to take them to live in his factory and they were happy to be paid in cacao beans.\nWilly Wonka is in a TON of legal trouble. Massive immigration and labor law violations, arguably slavery, is only the start. Child endangerment, manslaughter/negligent homicide, unsafe food handling practices, environmental pollution, and running illegal sweepstakes. \nPlus, seeing how the factory is a huge toxic pit of civil and criminal legal entanglements, he tries to just give his illegal sweatshop away to a random kid in an attempt to walk away from it and leave Charlie responsible for the consequences- which, legally, won't work", ">\n\nDid Augustus even speak? I remember his mom had a super thick accent.", ">\n\nHe did, but it was minimal dialogue. I think he offers Charlie some chocolate and makes a comment about eating more candy", ">\n\nIt's the same premise behind all the aliens invading Earth on Doctor Who starting with the UK.", ">\n\nI always thought it was strange that they were all conveniently found before the date on the ticket. Charlie's was found just the day before." ]

[ "This is a friendly reminder to read our rules.\nRemember, /r/Showerthoughts is for showerthoughts, not \"thoughts had in the shower!\"\n(For an explanation of what a \"showerthought\" is, please read this page.)\nRule-breaking posts may result in bans.", ">\n\nI mean, one of them was German, and other than that it appeared to be a mix of British and American kids.", ">\n\nExactly. Put some respect on our bilingual king Augustus Gloop’s name OP! 🍫🇩🇪", ">\n\nFun fact! Did you know the actress who played his mother (Save some room for later!) was in a porn right around that time?", ">\n\nI didn't believe you, so I checked. This appears to be true!", ">\n\nI mean Michael Scott tried this and all the tickets went to the same company.", ">\n\nOmg maybe that episode was really just to shine light on the fact that there is a reason that all the tickets wound up going to the same demographic", ">\n\nNot really sure I’d consider Charlie Bucket and Veruca Salt as the same demographic.", ">\n\nPresumably old mate got confused between demographic and age bracket", ">\n\nAge is a demographic btw", ">\n\nOk. In the story, only Augustus Gloop and Mike Teavee are the same age (9), everyone else is a different age.\nBut why is it surprising that the main characters of a Roald Dahl Story are children? That’s kind of the point of all his children’s novels. \nThere is also almost always an element of magic, or at least the unexplained-possibly-paranormal in his books. In the novel, adults around the world searched like crazy for those tickets, but of course Wonka knows children will be the recipients because his factory, and indeed his candies, are made for children, and their imaginations. The tickets themselves were intended for children, never an adult.\nThe real convenience of it all lies in the the book being written for a target audience, and that audience is children… therefore, characters they relate to.", ">\n\nI wasn’t inherently disagreeing with you (I was responding to the person above who assumed you didn’t think age is a demographic), you can narrow the age demographic to whatever you want. I’d consider “children” to be a general age demographic, but if you want to split it up, that’s fair. \nUntil your response, I didn’t think you were referring to their age, but other points of their demographic profile (SES, culture, location, etc).", ">\n\nI’m sorry, I misunderstood! You are right in thinking I wasn’t referring to their age, btw. I agree they all fit an age demographic, but that’s hardly relevant compared to the social statuses Dahl has created for them.", ">\n\nIt's also incredibly convenient that Wonka's creepy-looking henchman was at the right time and place when all of them were discovered. Almost as if they were planted.", ">\n\nWell there was nothing \"incredibly convenient\" about the winners being English speakers. That was about 99% of the UK at the time.", ">\n\nBecause the only place willy wonkas factory shipped to was within the United Kingdoms borders?", ">\n\nExcept in the film (never read the book) it was implied Wonka’s chocolates shipped out all over the world. I mean, Augustus Gloop was Austrian/German.\nBut yeah, the fact that it was all children who got it would be statistically improbable.", ">\n\nMeh, more kids buy candy than adults, and every year there are more kids than adults.", ">\n\nRight, but the candy wasn’t the main prize. You got a lifetime supply of chocolate which could be sold hand over fist, which I’m sure plenty of adults considered in their quest to find the golden tickets. And plus an exclusive tour of the world’s most mysterious and profitable candy company would almost truly be a once in a lifetime event, and you’re telling me some rich celebrity wouldn’t swoop in and offer any one of those children $10mil cash for the golden ticket, just to have the prestige of going to Wonka’s factory? Just doesn’t add up.", ">\n\nTrue", ">\n\nHappy Cake Day, Jan", ">\n\nHappy what?", ">\n\nIt’s your cake day. Hence the little cake icon next to your username.", ">\n\nIt's because the thing was rigged from the start. Willy Wonka had no children of his own, so he was specifically looking for an heir to take over his empire.", ">\n\nAnd a few to murder.", ">\n\nAs you do", ">\n\nAs is tradition", ">\n\nAs You Were - LG", ">\n\nConsidering the children were all horrible can you think of the uproar on what nationality gets what arsehole behaviour.", ">\n\nI got the impression that Wonka had pretty elaborate plans for the kids, and selected them specifically to teach them lessons?", ">\n\nExactly. He chose Charlie, it was just the final test.", ">\n\nIn the gene wilder version, the candy store salesman admits he was hiding Wonka bars while they were auctioning for extreme prices. Why would a man in the business of selling candy for profit do that? Then, it's not until charlie says he wants to buy something for his grandfather that the candy seller chooses the type of bar for him, and that bar has the golden ticket. \nHe knew he had it, and was intentionally holding it for somebody who wasn't buying for themselves.", ">\n\nCharlie & the chocolate factory Lore", ">\n\nReminds me of how in Boruto, the main ladies of Naruto took a collective pregnancy pact to birth children in the same year.", ">\n\nWhat the fuck", ">\n\nThat's not literally what happened.\nThe naruto cast just had children in the same class at the start of boruto. Which makes kind of sense because Naruto ends with a giant war and those make people have children historically but it's also obviously to have a story in which all the original characters are involved through their children.\nBut it's also so obviously contrived that people joke they all made a pact to get pregnant at the same time because otherwise it's too convenient that they all have children at close to the same age.", ">\n\nThe kids of Boruto are literal baby boomers", ">\n\nThe book is set in 1960s England… What else would they speak?", ">\n\nAre you implying minorities didn't exist back in the 60s? Especially after the war?", ">\n\nNo, they're implying that in a book written in English and probably set in either England or America, the characters all speaking English is not at all surprising.", ">\n\nYou're completely missing out on OP's point by trying to be a contrarian", ">\n\nNo, I'm pointing out that it's a children's book that was written in English and set in a country where English is by far the most commonly spoken language. So the fact that the main characters are mostly children who speak English is not surprising at all. Disagreeing is not the same as being contrarian.", ">\n\nYou are missing out on OP's point", ">\n\nPlease do tell, o enlightened one! What point am I missing exactly?", ">\n\nOr maybe they just didn’t ship the golden ticket chocolate bars to other countries… \nI doubt there we’re many people living in England who speak no English back in those days", ">\n\nAugustus Gloop was German, though? I mean, maybe he was a German immigrant who moved to England, but I was always under the impression that he lived in Germany based on his and his parents' accents.", ">\n\nAnd I thought Mike was the American. What with all the cowboy gear. Could be from anywhere I guess.", ">\n\nYou are seeking logic in a movie where a piece of gum turns a girl into a blueberry… let that sink in", ">\n\n\"I do say, that song & dance all seemed a bit rehearsed!\" (Best line from the remake.)", ">\n\nTLDW - \nBetween 12% and 24%\nThe range is caused when the definition of “white person/English speaking” is changed", ">\n\nI'll bet when you consider that globalization want a thing in the 1920s and you eliminate basically all of Asia, Africa, and South America considering an American candy company's distribution network. The British kid was from a wealthy family who spent insane amounts of money to find a ticket. \nThe the German kid is the most odd to me. How popular has American chocolate ever been in Germany? I'm guessing that is not very popular and that since his family only seemed relatively well off, a trip to America may have been a prohibitive expense due nothing more than a candy factory tour.\nEdit: TIL that the story took place in England (definitely at the forefront of globalization, even in the 1920s). So, that pretty much destroys the logic of my argument.", ">\n\nKid was also a chubster who inhaled sweets like air.", ">\n\nTo be fair English speaking countries tend to be richer therefore more kids there will buy more chocolate and therefore are more likely to get the tickets (Eg. Veruca buying hundreds of chocolates will give her a higher probability of landing a golden ticket than Charlie who can only afford one). \nBut yeah the fact that they’re children makes it rigged. Like I’m sure a teenager or even an adult would’ve gotten one because they bought chocolates too not just the kids.", ">\n\nWhat's strange is that one of those children wasn't an English speaker in real life and just learned the few lives he had to say in English without actually understanding everything.", ">\n\nI mean, it's a good way to murder your kids for insurance money and have a good alibi.", ">\n\nNot that convenient as britan is a white English speaking country it would be weird if it was different is what you meant to say 🤔", ">\n\nGrandpa Joe didn't get out of bed for 20 years. He let everyone take care of him. He decided he could walk again to see Wankas chocolate factory.", ">\n\nI still remember:\nteacher \"And all they had to eat every day was spinach\"\ngirl sitting on floor \"But I dont like spinach\"\nteacher looks down from book \"Then you would die.\"\nclass shocked picachu face\nme, in the back, cant hold back the laughter\nkid next to me looks over, What's your problem? written on his fucking kid face\ni cant speak... only laugh/cry", ">\n\nDidn't the film theory guy on YT calculate the odds of that happening?", ">\n\nAugustus Gloop wasn’t English. He was German. Don’t think he talked English at all.", ">\n\nIt's as convenient in England during that time period as it would be today if in Mexico they had something, and all the winners spoke Spanish. In other words, it's not suspiciously convenient at all.", ">\n\nThats all depends on where wonka sells his chocolate bars right?", ">\n\nSo you can suspend disbelief long enough to accept a factory with a chocolate river and candy plants but all the kids who found tickets speak the same language is just too much..", ">\n\nOf all the unreasonable events related to that story, you found the least one.", ">\n\nAugustus Gloop was from Germany.\nMike Teevee was from the USA.", ">\n\nI mean, it was America in the 1920s ... not a real inclusive time period. Not a lot of globalization going on in the 1920s, in America.\nEdit: 1920s England it seems ... so a fair bit more globalization than I'd assumed", ">\n\nPlenty of black people though.\nEdit: got those who can’t be bothered reading the stupid Reddit argument below, Charlie was originally written as black, and his family was dirt poor.", ">\n\nWhat do you think that the black population in the US (or any country that a British candy maker would have exported to in the 1920s for that matter) was in the 1920s?", ">\n\nAbout 10,000,000, according to Wikipedia.", ">\n\nSounds right ... a little less than 10% of the population.\nAnd how; do you think, many were in a socioeconomic position to spend money on imported European chocolate.", ">\n\nWhy don’t you answer your own question? I was responding to your point about the lack of “globalization” in the US, not about purchasing power of black Americans in 1920.", ">\n\nNo, you're were taking a position to insinuate that I was taking a position. So that you could seem or just feel superior in the \"great virtue\" that comes with micro-focusing on meaningless and disjointed facts out of context on your socials, because no one usually objects or bothers to call you out on your bullshit. \nMy next point would've been about how familiar with the black experience in 1920s America, do you think that Roald Dahl (a British writer in the 1960s) was, to be able to confidently include that in his book.", ">\n\npaywall", ">\n\nYour point is taken, but it was four kids of the same age, and one peanut-sheller trying to keep a terrible job.", ">\n\nThey weren't all found by kids, one of them had their father buy up all the stock and have his factory open them all and get a ticket, Agustus was eating loads of chocolate anyway, so his was a high chance relative to others. Except for charlie, they had systems in place to find them. Maybe Mike as well. But the film doesn't show that,", ">\n\nConvenient or just common sense? Look at the demographics of the time, things make sense when you use logic.", ">\n\nMy Chinese mum held onto dried plumbs for 6 months when she was a kid. That’s how deprived of decent sweets China was in the 70’s", ">\n\nThe Oompah Lumpah uprising will spare none of the bourgeoisie.", ">\n\nIf you ask that monster grandpa Joe, he would disagree. And crop dust you with cabbage farts as he waltzed away.", ">\n\nOompa loompas are just for show. Behind the colourful fake factory, the real factory is dark, damp, cold, and staffed by migrant children", ">\n\nIn the original book, Oompa Loompas were explicitly described as dark-skinned African pygmies who insisted on wearing their native clothing of skins and leaves- and the kids went naked. \nHe found them in their native country being preyed upon constantly by \"Whangdoodles, the Hornswogglers, and the Snozzwangers\" and offered to take them to live in his factory and they were happy to be paid in cacao beans.\nWilly Wonka is in a TON of legal trouble. Massive immigration and labor law violations, arguably slavery, is only the start. Child endangerment, manslaughter/negligent homicide, unsafe food handling practices, environmental pollution, and running illegal sweepstakes. \nPlus, seeing how the factory is a huge toxic pit of civil and criminal legal entanglements, he tries to just give his illegal sweatshop away to a random kid in an attempt to walk away from it and leave Charlie responsible for the consequences- which, legally, won't work", ">\n\nDid Augustus even speak? I remember his mom had a super thick accent.", ">\n\nHe did, but it was minimal dialogue. I think he offers Charlie some chocolate and makes a comment about eating more candy", ">\n\nIt's the same premise behind all the aliens invading Earth on Doctor Who starting with the UK.", ">\n\nI always thought it was strange that they were all conveniently found before the date on the ticket. Charlie's was found just the day before.", ">\n\nThey were all from countries where speaking English is very commonplace" ]

[ "This is a friendly reminder to read our rules.\nRemember, /r/Showerthoughts is for showerthoughts, not \"thoughts had in the shower!\"\n(For an explanation of what a \"showerthought\" is, please read this page.)\nRule-breaking posts may result in bans.", ">\n\nI mean, one of them was German, and other than that it appeared to be a mix of British and American kids.", ">\n\nExactly. Put some respect on our bilingual king Augustus Gloop’s name OP! 🍫🇩🇪", ">\n\nFun fact! Did you know the actress who played his mother (Save some room for later!) was in a porn right around that time?", ">\n\nI didn't believe you, so I checked. This appears to be true!", ">\n\nI mean Michael Scott tried this and all the tickets went to the same company.", ">\n\nOmg maybe that episode was really just to shine light on the fact that there is a reason that all the tickets wound up going to the same demographic", ">\n\nNot really sure I’d consider Charlie Bucket and Veruca Salt as the same demographic.", ">\n\nPresumably old mate got confused between demographic and age bracket", ">\n\nAge is a demographic btw", ">\n\nOk. In the story, only Augustus Gloop and Mike Teavee are the same age (9), everyone else is a different age.\nBut why is it surprising that the main characters of a Roald Dahl Story are children? That’s kind of the point of all his children’s novels. \nThere is also almost always an element of magic, or at least the unexplained-possibly-paranormal in his books. In the novel, adults around the world searched like crazy for those tickets, but of course Wonka knows children will be the recipients because his factory, and indeed his candies, are made for children, and their imaginations. The tickets themselves were intended for children, never an adult.\nThe real convenience of it all lies in the the book being written for a target audience, and that audience is children… therefore, characters they relate to.", ">\n\nI wasn’t inherently disagreeing with you (I was responding to the person above who assumed you didn’t think age is a demographic), you can narrow the age demographic to whatever you want. I’d consider “children” to be a general age demographic, but if you want to split it up, that’s fair. \nUntil your response, I didn’t think you were referring to their age, but other points of their demographic profile (SES, culture, location, etc).", ">\n\nI’m sorry, I misunderstood! You are right in thinking I wasn’t referring to their age, btw. I agree they all fit an age demographic, but that’s hardly relevant compared to the social statuses Dahl has created for them.", ">\n\nIt's also incredibly convenient that Wonka's creepy-looking henchman was at the right time and place when all of them were discovered. Almost as if they were planted.", ">\n\nWell there was nothing \"incredibly convenient\" about the winners being English speakers. That was about 99% of the UK at the time.", ">\n\nBecause the only place willy wonkas factory shipped to was within the United Kingdoms borders?", ">\n\nExcept in the film (never read the book) it was implied Wonka’s chocolates shipped out all over the world. I mean, Augustus Gloop was Austrian/German.\nBut yeah, the fact that it was all children who got it would be statistically improbable.", ">\n\nMeh, more kids buy candy than adults, and every year there are more kids than adults.", ">\n\nRight, but the candy wasn’t the main prize. You got a lifetime supply of chocolate which could be sold hand over fist, which I’m sure plenty of adults considered in their quest to find the golden tickets. And plus an exclusive tour of the world’s most mysterious and profitable candy company would almost truly be a once in a lifetime event, and you’re telling me some rich celebrity wouldn’t swoop in and offer any one of those children $10mil cash for the golden ticket, just to have the prestige of going to Wonka’s factory? Just doesn’t add up.", ">\n\nTrue", ">\n\nHappy Cake Day, Jan", ">\n\nHappy what?", ">\n\nIt’s your cake day. Hence the little cake icon next to your username.", ">\n\nIt's because the thing was rigged from the start. Willy Wonka had no children of his own, so he was specifically looking for an heir to take over his empire.", ">\n\nAnd a few to murder.", ">\n\nAs you do", ">\n\nAs is tradition", ">\n\nAs You Were - LG", ">\n\nConsidering the children were all horrible can you think of the uproar on what nationality gets what arsehole behaviour.", ">\n\nI got the impression that Wonka had pretty elaborate plans for the kids, and selected them specifically to teach them lessons?", ">\n\nExactly. He chose Charlie, it was just the final test.", ">\n\nIn the gene wilder version, the candy store salesman admits he was hiding Wonka bars while they were auctioning for extreme prices. Why would a man in the business of selling candy for profit do that? Then, it's not until charlie says he wants to buy something for his grandfather that the candy seller chooses the type of bar for him, and that bar has the golden ticket. \nHe knew he had it, and was intentionally holding it for somebody who wasn't buying for themselves.", ">\n\nCharlie & the chocolate factory Lore", ">\n\nReminds me of how in Boruto, the main ladies of Naruto took a collective pregnancy pact to birth children in the same year.", ">\n\nWhat the fuck", ">\n\nThat's not literally what happened.\nThe naruto cast just had children in the same class at the start of boruto. Which makes kind of sense because Naruto ends with a giant war and those make people have children historically but it's also obviously to have a story in which all the original characters are involved through their children.\nBut it's also so obviously contrived that people joke they all made a pact to get pregnant at the same time because otherwise it's too convenient that they all have children at close to the same age.", ">\n\nThe kids of Boruto are literal baby boomers", ">\n\nThe book is set in 1960s England… What else would they speak?", ">\n\nAre you implying minorities didn't exist back in the 60s? Especially after the war?", ">\n\nNo, they're implying that in a book written in English and probably set in either England or America, the characters all speaking English is not at all surprising.", ">\n\nYou're completely missing out on OP's point by trying to be a contrarian", ">\n\nNo, I'm pointing out that it's a children's book that was written in English and set in a country where English is by far the most commonly spoken language. So the fact that the main characters are mostly children who speak English is not surprising at all. Disagreeing is not the same as being contrarian.", ">\n\nYou are missing out on OP's point", ">\n\nPlease do tell, o enlightened one! What point am I missing exactly?", ">\n\nOr maybe they just didn’t ship the golden ticket chocolate bars to other countries… \nI doubt there we’re many people living in England who speak no English back in those days", ">\n\nAugustus Gloop was German, though? I mean, maybe he was a German immigrant who moved to England, but I was always under the impression that he lived in Germany based on his and his parents' accents.", ">\n\nAnd I thought Mike was the American. What with all the cowboy gear. Could be from anywhere I guess.", ">\n\nYou are seeking logic in a movie where a piece of gum turns a girl into a blueberry… let that sink in", ">\n\n\"I do say, that song & dance all seemed a bit rehearsed!\" (Best line from the remake.)", ">\n\nTLDW - \nBetween 12% and 24%\nThe range is caused when the definition of “white person/English speaking” is changed", ">\n\nI'll bet when you consider that globalization want a thing in the 1920s and you eliminate basically all of Asia, Africa, and South America considering an American candy company's distribution network. The British kid was from a wealthy family who spent insane amounts of money to find a ticket. \nThe the German kid is the most odd to me. How popular has American chocolate ever been in Germany? I'm guessing that is not very popular and that since his family only seemed relatively well off, a trip to America may have been a prohibitive expense due nothing more than a candy factory tour.\nEdit: TIL that the story took place in England (definitely at the forefront of globalization, even in the 1920s). So, that pretty much destroys the logic of my argument.", ">\n\nKid was also a chubster who inhaled sweets like air.", ">\n\nTo be fair English speaking countries tend to be richer therefore more kids there will buy more chocolate and therefore are more likely to get the tickets (Eg. Veruca buying hundreds of chocolates will give her a higher probability of landing a golden ticket than Charlie who can only afford one). \nBut yeah the fact that they’re children makes it rigged. Like I’m sure a teenager or even an adult would’ve gotten one because they bought chocolates too not just the kids.", ">\n\nWhat's strange is that one of those children wasn't an English speaker in real life and just learned the few lives he had to say in English without actually understanding everything.", ">\n\nI mean, it's a good way to murder your kids for insurance money and have a good alibi.", ">\n\nNot that convenient as britan is a white English speaking country it would be weird if it was different is what you meant to say 🤔", ">\n\nGrandpa Joe didn't get out of bed for 20 years. He let everyone take care of him. He decided he could walk again to see Wankas chocolate factory.", ">\n\nI still remember:\nteacher \"And all they had to eat every day was spinach\"\ngirl sitting on floor \"But I dont like spinach\"\nteacher looks down from book \"Then you would die.\"\nclass shocked picachu face\nme, in the back, cant hold back the laughter\nkid next to me looks over, What's your problem? written on his fucking kid face\ni cant speak... only laugh/cry", ">\n\nDidn't the film theory guy on YT calculate the odds of that happening?", ">\n\nAugustus Gloop wasn’t English. He was German. Don’t think he talked English at all.", ">\n\nIt's as convenient in England during that time period as it would be today if in Mexico they had something, and all the winners spoke Spanish. In other words, it's not suspiciously convenient at all.", ">\n\nThats all depends on where wonka sells his chocolate bars right?", ">\n\nSo you can suspend disbelief long enough to accept a factory with a chocolate river and candy plants but all the kids who found tickets speak the same language is just too much..", ">\n\nOf all the unreasonable events related to that story, you found the least one.", ">\n\nAugustus Gloop was from Germany.\nMike Teevee was from the USA.", ">\n\nI mean, it was America in the 1920s ... not a real inclusive time period. Not a lot of globalization going on in the 1920s, in America.\nEdit: 1920s England it seems ... so a fair bit more globalization than I'd assumed", ">\n\nPlenty of black people though.\nEdit: got those who can’t be bothered reading the stupid Reddit argument below, Charlie was originally written as black, and his family was dirt poor.", ">\n\nWhat do you think that the black population in the US (or any country that a British candy maker would have exported to in the 1920s for that matter) was in the 1920s?", ">\n\nAbout 10,000,000, according to Wikipedia.", ">\n\nSounds right ... a little less than 10% of the population.\nAnd how; do you think, many were in a socioeconomic position to spend money on imported European chocolate.", ">\n\nWhy don’t you answer your own question? I was responding to your point about the lack of “globalization” in the US, not about purchasing power of black Americans in 1920.", ">\n\nNo, you're were taking a position to insinuate that I was taking a position. So that you could seem or just feel superior in the \"great virtue\" that comes with micro-focusing on meaningless and disjointed facts out of context on your socials, because no one usually objects or bothers to call you out on your bullshit. \nMy next point would've been about how familiar with the black experience in 1920s America, do you think that Roald Dahl (a British writer in the 1960s) was, to be able to confidently include that in his book.", ">\n\npaywall", ">\n\nYour point is taken, but it was four kids of the same age, and one peanut-sheller trying to keep a terrible job.", ">\n\nThey weren't all found by kids, one of them had their father buy up all the stock and have his factory open them all and get a ticket, Agustus was eating loads of chocolate anyway, so his was a high chance relative to others. Except for charlie, they had systems in place to find them. Maybe Mike as well. But the film doesn't show that,", ">\n\nConvenient or just common sense? Look at the demographics of the time, things make sense when you use logic.", ">\n\nMy Chinese mum held onto dried plumbs for 6 months when she was a kid. That’s how deprived of decent sweets China was in the 70’s", ">\n\nThe Oompah Lumpah uprising will spare none of the bourgeoisie.", ">\n\nIf you ask that monster grandpa Joe, he would disagree. And crop dust you with cabbage farts as he waltzed away.", ">\n\nOompa loompas are just for show. Behind the colourful fake factory, the real factory is dark, damp, cold, and staffed by migrant children", ">\n\nIn the original book, Oompa Loompas were explicitly described as dark-skinned African pygmies who insisted on wearing their native clothing of skins and leaves- and the kids went naked. \nHe found them in their native country being preyed upon constantly by \"Whangdoodles, the Hornswogglers, and the Snozzwangers\" and offered to take them to live in his factory and they were happy to be paid in cacao beans.\nWilly Wonka is in a TON of legal trouble. Massive immigration and labor law violations, arguably slavery, is only the start. Child endangerment, manslaughter/negligent homicide, unsafe food handling practices, environmental pollution, and running illegal sweepstakes. \nPlus, seeing how the factory is a huge toxic pit of civil and criminal legal entanglements, he tries to just give his illegal sweatshop away to a random kid in an attempt to walk away from it and leave Charlie responsible for the consequences- which, legally, won't work", ">\n\nDid Augustus even speak? I remember his mom had a super thick accent.", ">\n\nHe did, but it was minimal dialogue. I think he offers Charlie some chocolate and makes a comment about eating more candy", ">\n\nIt's the same premise behind all the aliens invading Earth on Doctor Who starting with the UK.", ">\n\nI always thought it was strange that they were all conveniently found before the date on the ticket. Charlie's was found just the day before.", ">\n\nThey were all from countries where speaking English is very commonplace", ">\n\nIt’s like the McDonalds Monopoly game, it was rigged from the start." ]

[ "This is a friendly reminder to read our rules.\nRemember, /r/Showerthoughts is for showerthoughts, not \"thoughts had in the shower!\"\n(For an explanation of what a \"showerthought\" is, please read this page.)\nRule-breaking posts may result in bans.", ">\n\nI mean, one of them was German, and other than that it appeared to be a mix of British and American kids.", ">\n\nExactly. Put some respect on our bilingual king Augustus Gloop’s name OP! 🍫🇩🇪", ">\n\nFun fact! Did you know the actress who played his mother (Save some room for later!) was in a porn right around that time?", ">\n\nI didn't believe you, so I checked. This appears to be true!", ">\n\nI mean Michael Scott tried this and all the tickets went to the same company.", ">\n\nOmg maybe that episode was really just to shine light on the fact that there is a reason that all the tickets wound up going to the same demographic", ">\n\nNot really sure I’d consider Charlie Bucket and Veruca Salt as the same demographic.", ">\n\nPresumably old mate got confused between demographic and age bracket", ">\n\nAge is a demographic btw", ">\n\nOk. In the story, only Augustus Gloop and Mike Teavee are the same age (9), everyone else is a different age.\nBut why is it surprising that the main characters of a Roald Dahl Story are children? That’s kind of the point of all his children’s novels. \nThere is also almost always an element of magic, or at least the unexplained-possibly-paranormal in his books. In the novel, adults around the world searched like crazy for those tickets, but of course Wonka knows children will be the recipients because his factory, and indeed his candies, are made for children, and their imaginations. The tickets themselves were intended for children, never an adult.\nThe real convenience of it all lies in the the book being written for a target audience, and that audience is children… therefore, characters they relate to.", ">\n\nI wasn’t inherently disagreeing with you (I was responding to the person above who assumed you didn’t think age is a demographic), you can narrow the age demographic to whatever you want. I’d consider “children” to be a general age demographic, but if you want to split it up, that’s fair. \nUntil your response, I didn’t think you were referring to their age, but other points of their demographic profile (SES, culture, location, etc).", ">\n\nI’m sorry, I misunderstood! You are right in thinking I wasn’t referring to their age, btw. I agree they all fit an age demographic, but that’s hardly relevant compared to the social statuses Dahl has created for them.", ">\n\nIt's also incredibly convenient that Wonka's creepy-looking henchman was at the right time and place when all of them were discovered. Almost as if they were planted.", ">\n\nWell there was nothing \"incredibly convenient\" about the winners being English speakers. That was about 99% of the UK at the time.", ">\n\nBecause the only place willy wonkas factory shipped to was within the United Kingdoms borders?", ">\n\nExcept in the film (never read the book) it was implied Wonka’s chocolates shipped out all over the world. I mean, Augustus Gloop was Austrian/German.\nBut yeah, the fact that it was all children who got it would be statistically improbable.", ">\n\nMeh, more kids buy candy than adults, and every year there are more kids than adults.", ">\n\nRight, but the candy wasn’t the main prize. You got a lifetime supply of chocolate which could be sold hand over fist, which I’m sure plenty of adults considered in their quest to find the golden tickets. And plus an exclusive tour of the world’s most mysterious and profitable candy company would almost truly be a once in a lifetime event, and you’re telling me some rich celebrity wouldn’t swoop in and offer any one of those children $10mil cash for the golden ticket, just to have the prestige of going to Wonka’s factory? Just doesn’t add up.", ">\n\nTrue", ">\n\nHappy Cake Day, Jan", ">\n\nHappy what?", ">\n\nIt’s your cake day. Hence the little cake icon next to your username.", ">\n\nIt's because the thing was rigged from the start. Willy Wonka had no children of his own, so he was specifically looking for an heir to take over his empire.", ">\n\nAnd a few to murder.", ">\n\nAs you do", ">\n\nAs is tradition", ">\n\nAs You Were - LG", ">\n\nConsidering the children were all horrible can you think of the uproar on what nationality gets what arsehole behaviour.", ">\n\nI got the impression that Wonka had pretty elaborate plans for the kids, and selected them specifically to teach them lessons?", ">\n\nExactly. He chose Charlie, it was just the final test.", ">\n\nIn the gene wilder version, the candy store salesman admits he was hiding Wonka bars while they were auctioning for extreme prices. Why would a man in the business of selling candy for profit do that? Then, it's not until charlie says he wants to buy something for his grandfather that the candy seller chooses the type of bar for him, and that bar has the golden ticket. \nHe knew he had it, and was intentionally holding it for somebody who wasn't buying for themselves.", ">\n\nCharlie & the chocolate factory Lore", ">\n\nReminds me of how in Boruto, the main ladies of Naruto took a collective pregnancy pact to birth children in the same year.", ">\n\nWhat the fuck", ">\n\nThat's not literally what happened.\nThe naruto cast just had children in the same class at the start of boruto. Which makes kind of sense because Naruto ends with a giant war and those make people have children historically but it's also obviously to have a story in which all the original characters are involved through their children.\nBut it's also so obviously contrived that people joke they all made a pact to get pregnant at the same time because otherwise it's too convenient that they all have children at close to the same age.", ">\n\nThe kids of Boruto are literal baby boomers", ">\n\nThe book is set in 1960s England… What else would they speak?", ">\n\nAre you implying minorities didn't exist back in the 60s? Especially after the war?", ">\n\nNo, they're implying that in a book written in English and probably set in either England or America, the characters all speaking English is not at all surprising.", ">\n\nYou're completely missing out on OP's point by trying to be a contrarian", ">\n\nNo, I'm pointing out that it's a children's book that was written in English and set in a country where English is by far the most commonly spoken language. So the fact that the main characters are mostly children who speak English is not surprising at all. Disagreeing is not the same as being contrarian.", ">\n\nYou are missing out on OP's point", ">\n\nPlease do tell, o enlightened one! What point am I missing exactly?", ">\n\nOr maybe they just didn’t ship the golden ticket chocolate bars to other countries… \nI doubt there we’re many people living in England who speak no English back in those days", ">\n\nAugustus Gloop was German, though? I mean, maybe he was a German immigrant who moved to England, but I was always under the impression that he lived in Germany based on his and his parents' accents.", ">\n\nAnd I thought Mike was the American. What with all the cowboy gear. Could be from anywhere I guess.", ">\n\nYou are seeking logic in a movie where a piece of gum turns a girl into a blueberry… let that sink in", ">\n\n\"I do say, that song & dance all seemed a bit rehearsed!\" (Best line from the remake.)", ">\n\nTLDW - \nBetween 12% and 24%\nThe range is caused when the definition of “white person/English speaking” is changed", ">\n\nI'll bet when you consider that globalization want a thing in the 1920s and you eliminate basically all of Asia, Africa, and South America considering an American candy company's distribution network. The British kid was from a wealthy family who spent insane amounts of money to find a ticket. \nThe the German kid is the most odd to me. How popular has American chocolate ever been in Germany? I'm guessing that is not very popular and that since his family only seemed relatively well off, a trip to America may have been a prohibitive expense due nothing more than a candy factory tour.\nEdit: TIL that the story took place in England (definitely at the forefront of globalization, even in the 1920s). So, that pretty much destroys the logic of my argument.", ">\n\nKid was also a chubster who inhaled sweets like air.", ">\n\nTo be fair English speaking countries tend to be richer therefore more kids there will buy more chocolate and therefore are more likely to get the tickets (Eg. Veruca buying hundreds of chocolates will give her a higher probability of landing a golden ticket than Charlie who can only afford one). \nBut yeah the fact that they’re children makes it rigged. Like I’m sure a teenager or even an adult would’ve gotten one because they bought chocolates too not just the kids.", ">\n\nWhat's strange is that one of those children wasn't an English speaker in real life and just learned the few lives he had to say in English without actually understanding everything.", ">\n\nI mean, it's a good way to murder your kids for insurance money and have a good alibi.", ">\n\nNot that convenient as britan is a white English speaking country it would be weird if it was different is what you meant to say 🤔", ">\n\nGrandpa Joe didn't get out of bed for 20 years. He let everyone take care of him. He decided he could walk again to see Wankas chocolate factory.", ">\n\nI still remember:\nteacher \"And all they had to eat every day was spinach\"\ngirl sitting on floor \"But I dont like spinach\"\nteacher looks down from book \"Then you would die.\"\nclass shocked picachu face\nme, in the back, cant hold back the laughter\nkid next to me looks over, What's your problem? written on his fucking kid face\ni cant speak... only laugh/cry", ">\n\nDidn't the film theory guy on YT calculate the odds of that happening?", ">\n\nAugustus Gloop wasn’t English. He was German. Don’t think he talked English at all.", ">\n\nIt's as convenient in England during that time period as it would be today if in Mexico they had something, and all the winners spoke Spanish. In other words, it's not suspiciously convenient at all.", ">\n\nThats all depends on where wonka sells his chocolate bars right?", ">\n\nSo you can suspend disbelief long enough to accept a factory with a chocolate river and candy plants but all the kids who found tickets speak the same language is just too much..", ">\n\nOf all the unreasonable events related to that story, you found the least one.", ">\n\nAugustus Gloop was from Germany.\nMike Teevee was from the USA.", ">\n\nI mean, it was America in the 1920s ... not a real inclusive time period. Not a lot of globalization going on in the 1920s, in America.\nEdit: 1920s England it seems ... so a fair bit more globalization than I'd assumed", ">\n\nPlenty of black people though.\nEdit: got those who can’t be bothered reading the stupid Reddit argument below, Charlie was originally written as black, and his family was dirt poor.", ">\n\nWhat do you think that the black population in the US (or any country that a British candy maker would have exported to in the 1920s for that matter) was in the 1920s?", ">\n\nAbout 10,000,000, according to Wikipedia.", ">\n\nSounds right ... a little less than 10% of the population.\nAnd how; do you think, many were in a socioeconomic position to spend money on imported European chocolate.", ">\n\nWhy don’t you answer your own question? I was responding to your point about the lack of “globalization” in the US, not about purchasing power of black Americans in 1920.", ">\n\nNo, you're were taking a position to insinuate that I was taking a position. So that you could seem or just feel superior in the \"great virtue\" that comes with micro-focusing on meaningless and disjointed facts out of context on your socials, because no one usually objects or bothers to call you out on your bullshit. \nMy next point would've been about how familiar with the black experience in 1920s America, do you think that Roald Dahl (a British writer in the 1960s) was, to be able to confidently include that in his book.", ">\n\npaywall", ">\n\nYour point is taken, but it was four kids of the same age, and one peanut-sheller trying to keep a terrible job.", ">\n\nThey weren't all found by kids, one of them had their father buy up all the stock and have his factory open them all and get a ticket, Agustus was eating loads of chocolate anyway, so his was a high chance relative to others. Except for charlie, they had systems in place to find them. Maybe Mike as well. But the film doesn't show that,", ">\n\nConvenient or just common sense? Look at the demographics of the time, things make sense when you use logic.", ">\n\nMy Chinese mum held onto dried plumbs for 6 months when she was a kid. That’s how deprived of decent sweets China was in the 70’s", ">\n\nThe Oompah Lumpah uprising will spare none of the bourgeoisie.", ">\n\nIf you ask that monster grandpa Joe, he would disagree. And crop dust you with cabbage farts as he waltzed away.", ">\n\nOompa loompas are just for show. Behind the colourful fake factory, the real factory is dark, damp, cold, and staffed by migrant children", ">\n\nIn the original book, Oompa Loompas were explicitly described as dark-skinned African pygmies who insisted on wearing their native clothing of skins and leaves- and the kids went naked. \nHe found them in their native country being preyed upon constantly by \"Whangdoodles, the Hornswogglers, and the Snozzwangers\" and offered to take them to live in his factory and they were happy to be paid in cacao beans.\nWilly Wonka is in a TON of legal trouble. Massive immigration and labor law violations, arguably slavery, is only the start. Child endangerment, manslaughter/negligent homicide, unsafe food handling practices, environmental pollution, and running illegal sweepstakes. \nPlus, seeing how the factory is a huge toxic pit of civil and criminal legal entanglements, he tries to just give his illegal sweatshop away to a random kid in an attempt to walk away from it and leave Charlie responsible for the consequences- which, legally, won't work", ">\n\nDid Augustus even speak? I remember his mom had a super thick accent.", ">\n\nHe did, but it was minimal dialogue. I think he offers Charlie some chocolate and makes a comment about eating more candy", ">\n\nIt's the same premise behind all the aliens invading Earth on Doctor Who starting with the UK.", ">\n\nI always thought it was strange that they were all conveniently found before the date on the ticket. Charlie's was found just the day before.", ">\n\nThey were all from countries where speaking English is very commonplace", ">\n\nIt’s like the McDonalds Monopoly game, it was rigged from the start.", ">\n\nI mean… he was the one who sent them out, he could’ve only sent the 5 to certain stores, or paid the owners of those store to specifically hand them to the people who got them, or any number of other things. We have no clue how deep wokna’s plan goes" ]

[ "This is a friendly reminder to read our rules.\nRemember, /r/Showerthoughts is for showerthoughts, not \"thoughts had in the shower!\"\n(For an explanation of what a \"showerthought\" is, please read this page.)\nRule-breaking posts may result in bans.", ">\n\nI mean, one of them was German, and other than that it appeared to be a mix of British and American kids.", ">\n\nExactly. Put some respect on our bilingual king Augustus Gloop’s name OP! 🍫🇩🇪", ">\n\nFun fact! Did you know the actress who played his mother (Save some room for later!) was in a porn right around that time?", ">\n\nI didn't believe you, so I checked. This appears to be true!", ">\n\nI mean Michael Scott tried this and all the tickets went to the same company.", ">\n\nOmg maybe that episode was really just to shine light on the fact that there is a reason that all the tickets wound up going to the same demographic", ">\n\nNot really sure I’d consider Charlie Bucket and Veruca Salt as the same demographic.", ">\n\nPresumably old mate got confused between demographic and age bracket", ">\n\nAge is a demographic btw", ">\n\nOk. In the story, only Augustus Gloop and Mike Teavee are the same age (9), everyone else is a different age.\nBut why is it surprising that the main characters of a Roald Dahl Story are children? That’s kind of the point of all his children’s novels. \nThere is also almost always an element of magic, or at least the unexplained-possibly-paranormal in his books. In the novel, adults around the world searched like crazy for those tickets, but of course Wonka knows children will be the recipients because his factory, and indeed his candies, are made for children, and their imaginations. The tickets themselves were intended for children, never an adult.\nThe real convenience of it all lies in the the book being written for a target audience, and that audience is children… therefore, characters they relate to.", ">\n\nI wasn’t inherently disagreeing with you (I was responding to the person above who assumed you didn’t think age is a demographic), you can narrow the age demographic to whatever you want. I’d consider “children” to be a general age demographic, but if you want to split it up, that’s fair. \nUntil your response, I didn’t think you were referring to their age, but other points of their demographic profile (SES, culture, location, etc).", ">\n\nI’m sorry, I misunderstood! You are right in thinking I wasn’t referring to their age, btw. I agree they all fit an age demographic, but that’s hardly relevant compared to the social statuses Dahl has created for them.", ">\n\nIt's also incredibly convenient that Wonka's creepy-looking henchman was at the right time and place when all of them were discovered. Almost as if they were planted.", ">\n\nWell there was nothing \"incredibly convenient\" about the winners being English speakers. That was about 99% of the UK at the time.", ">\n\nBecause the only place willy wonkas factory shipped to was within the United Kingdoms borders?", ">\n\nExcept in the film (never read the book) it was implied Wonka’s chocolates shipped out all over the world. I mean, Augustus Gloop was Austrian/German.\nBut yeah, the fact that it was all children who got it would be statistically improbable.", ">\n\nMeh, more kids buy candy than adults, and every year there are more kids than adults.", ">\n\nRight, but the candy wasn’t the main prize. You got a lifetime supply of chocolate which could be sold hand over fist, which I’m sure plenty of adults considered in their quest to find the golden tickets. And plus an exclusive tour of the world’s most mysterious and profitable candy company would almost truly be a once in a lifetime event, and you’re telling me some rich celebrity wouldn’t swoop in and offer any one of those children $10mil cash for the golden ticket, just to have the prestige of going to Wonka’s factory? Just doesn’t add up.", ">\n\nTrue", ">\n\nHappy Cake Day, Jan", ">\n\nHappy what?", ">\n\nIt’s your cake day. Hence the little cake icon next to your username.", ">\n\nIt's because the thing was rigged from the start. Willy Wonka had no children of his own, so he was specifically looking for an heir to take over his empire.", ">\n\nAnd a few to murder.", ">\n\nAs you do", ">\n\nAs is tradition", ">\n\nAs You Were - LG", ">\n\nConsidering the children were all horrible can you think of the uproar on what nationality gets what arsehole behaviour.", ">\n\nI got the impression that Wonka had pretty elaborate plans for the kids, and selected them specifically to teach them lessons?", ">\n\nExactly. He chose Charlie, it was just the final test.", ">\n\nIn the gene wilder version, the candy store salesman admits he was hiding Wonka bars while they were auctioning for extreme prices. Why would a man in the business of selling candy for profit do that? Then, it's not until charlie says he wants to buy something for his grandfather that the candy seller chooses the type of bar for him, and that bar has the golden ticket. \nHe knew he had it, and was intentionally holding it for somebody who wasn't buying for themselves.", ">\n\nCharlie & the chocolate factory Lore", ">\n\nReminds me of how in Boruto, the main ladies of Naruto took a collective pregnancy pact to birth children in the same year.", ">\n\nWhat the fuck", ">\n\nThat's not literally what happened.\nThe naruto cast just had children in the same class at the start of boruto. Which makes kind of sense because Naruto ends with a giant war and those make people have children historically but it's also obviously to have a story in which all the original characters are involved through their children.\nBut it's also so obviously contrived that people joke they all made a pact to get pregnant at the same time because otherwise it's too convenient that they all have children at close to the same age.", ">\n\nThe kids of Boruto are literal baby boomers", ">\n\nThe book is set in 1960s England… What else would they speak?", ">\n\nAre you implying minorities didn't exist back in the 60s? Especially after the war?", ">\n\nNo, they're implying that in a book written in English and probably set in either England or America, the characters all speaking English is not at all surprising.", ">\n\nYou're completely missing out on OP's point by trying to be a contrarian", ">\n\nNo, I'm pointing out that it's a children's book that was written in English and set in a country where English is by far the most commonly spoken language. So the fact that the main characters are mostly children who speak English is not surprising at all. Disagreeing is not the same as being contrarian.", ">\n\nYou are missing out on OP's point", ">\n\nPlease do tell, o enlightened one! What point am I missing exactly?", ">\n\nOr maybe they just didn’t ship the golden ticket chocolate bars to other countries… \nI doubt there we’re many people living in England who speak no English back in those days", ">\n\nAugustus Gloop was German, though? I mean, maybe he was a German immigrant who moved to England, but I was always under the impression that he lived in Germany based on his and his parents' accents.", ">\n\nAnd I thought Mike was the American. What with all the cowboy gear. Could be from anywhere I guess.", ">\n\nYou are seeking logic in a movie where a piece of gum turns a girl into a blueberry… let that sink in", ">\n\n\"I do say, that song & dance all seemed a bit rehearsed!\" (Best line from the remake.)", ">\n\nTLDW - \nBetween 12% and 24%\nThe range is caused when the definition of “white person/English speaking” is changed", ">\n\nI'll bet when you consider that globalization want a thing in the 1920s and you eliminate basically all of Asia, Africa, and South America considering an American candy company's distribution network. The British kid was from a wealthy family who spent insane amounts of money to find a ticket. \nThe the German kid is the most odd to me. How popular has American chocolate ever been in Germany? I'm guessing that is not very popular and that since his family only seemed relatively well off, a trip to America may have been a prohibitive expense due nothing more than a candy factory tour.\nEdit: TIL that the story took place in England (definitely at the forefront of globalization, even in the 1920s). So, that pretty much destroys the logic of my argument.", ">\n\nKid was also a chubster who inhaled sweets like air.", ">\n\nTo be fair English speaking countries tend to be richer therefore more kids there will buy more chocolate and therefore are more likely to get the tickets (Eg. Veruca buying hundreds of chocolates will give her a higher probability of landing a golden ticket than Charlie who can only afford one). \nBut yeah the fact that they’re children makes it rigged. Like I’m sure a teenager or even an adult would’ve gotten one because they bought chocolates too not just the kids.", ">\n\nWhat's strange is that one of those children wasn't an English speaker in real life and just learned the few lives he had to say in English without actually understanding everything.", ">\n\nI mean, it's a good way to murder your kids for insurance money and have a good alibi.", ">\n\nNot that convenient as britan is a white English speaking country it would be weird if it was different is what you meant to say 🤔", ">\n\nGrandpa Joe didn't get out of bed for 20 years. He let everyone take care of him. He decided he could walk again to see Wankas chocolate factory.", ">\n\nI still remember:\nteacher \"And all they had to eat every day was spinach\"\ngirl sitting on floor \"But I dont like spinach\"\nteacher looks down from book \"Then you would die.\"\nclass shocked picachu face\nme, in the back, cant hold back the laughter\nkid next to me looks over, What's your problem? written on his fucking kid face\ni cant speak... only laugh/cry", ">\n\nDidn't the film theory guy on YT calculate the odds of that happening?", ">\n\nAugustus Gloop wasn’t English. He was German. Don’t think he talked English at all.", ">\n\nIt's as convenient in England during that time period as it would be today if in Mexico they had something, and all the winners spoke Spanish. In other words, it's not suspiciously convenient at all.", ">\n\nThats all depends on where wonka sells his chocolate bars right?", ">\n\nSo you can suspend disbelief long enough to accept a factory with a chocolate river and candy plants but all the kids who found tickets speak the same language is just too much..", ">\n\nOf all the unreasonable events related to that story, you found the least one.", ">\n\nAugustus Gloop was from Germany.\nMike Teevee was from the USA.", ">\n\nI mean, it was America in the 1920s ... not a real inclusive time period. Not a lot of globalization going on in the 1920s, in America.\nEdit: 1920s England it seems ... so a fair bit more globalization than I'd assumed", ">\n\nPlenty of black people though.\nEdit: got those who can’t be bothered reading the stupid Reddit argument below, Charlie was originally written as black, and his family was dirt poor.", ">\n\nWhat do you think that the black population in the US (or any country that a British candy maker would have exported to in the 1920s for that matter) was in the 1920s?", ">\n\nAbout 10,000,000, according to Wikipedia.", ">\n\nSounds right ... a little less than 10% of the population.\nAnd how; do you think, many were in a socioeconomic position to spend money on imported European chocolate.", ">\n\nWhy don’t you answer your own question? I was responding to your point about the lack of “globalization” in the US, not about purchasing power of black Americans in 1920.", ">\n\nNo, you're were taking a position to insinuate that I was taking a position. So that you could seem or just feel superior in the \"great virtue\" that comes with micro-focusing on meaningless and disjointed facts out of context on your socials, because no one usually objects or bothers to call you out on your bullshit. \nMy next point would've been about how familiar with the black experience in 1920s America, do you think that Roald Dahl (a British writer in the 1960s) was, to be able to confidently include that in his book.", ">\n\npaywall", ">\n\nYour point is taken, but it was four kids of the same age, and one peanut-sheller trying to keep a terrible job.", ">\n\nThey weren't all found by kids, one of them had their father buy up all the stock and have his factory open them all and get a ticket, Agustus was eating loads of chocolate anyway, so his was a high chance relative to others. Except for charlie, they had systems in place to find them. Maybe Mike as well. But the film doesn't show that,", ">\n\nConvenient or just common sense? Look at the demographics of the time, things make sense when you use logic.", ">\n\nMy Chinese mum held onto dried plumbs for 6 months when she was a kid. That’s how deprived of decent sweets China was in the 70’s", ">\n\nThe Oompah Lumpah uprising will spare none of the bourgeoisie.", ">\n\nIf you ask that monster grandpa Joe, he would disagree. And crop dust you with cabbage farts as he waltzed away.", ">\n\nOompa loompas are just for show. Behind the colourful fake factory, the real factory is dark, damp, cold, and staffed by migrant children", ">\n\nIn the original book, Oompa Loompas were explicitly described as dark-skinned African pygmies who insisted on wearing their native clothing of skins and leaves- and the kids went naked. \nHe found them in their native country being preyed upon constantly by \"Whangdoodles, the Hornswogglers, and the Snozzwangers\" and offered to take them to live in his factory and they were happy to be paid in cacao beans.\nWilly Wonka is in a TON of legal trouble. Massive immigration and labor law violations, arguably slavery, is only the start. Child endangerment, manslaughter/negligent homicide, unsafe food handling practices, environmental pollution, and running illegal sweepstakes. \nPlus, seeing how the factory is a huge toxic pit of civil and criminal legal entanglements, he tries to just give his illegal sweatshop away to a random kid in an attempt to walk away from it and leave Charlie responsible for the consequences- which, legally, won't work", ">\n\nDid Augustus even speak? I remember his mom had a super thick accent.", ">\n\nHe did, but it was minimal dialogue. I think he offers Charlie some chocolate and makes a comment about eating more candy", ">\n\nIt's the same premise behind all the aliens invading Earth on Doctor Who starting with the UK.", ">\n\nI always thought it was strange that they were all conveniently found before the date on the ticket. Charlie's was found just the day before.", ">\n\nThey were all from countries where speaking English is very commonplace", ">\n\nIt’s like the McDonalds Monopoly game, it was rigged from the start.", ">\n\nI mean… he was the one who sent them out, he could’ve only sent the 5 to certain stores, or paid the owners of those store to specifically hand them to the people who got them, or any number of other things. We have no clue how deep wokna’s plan goes", ">\n\nIt's part of the story, the kids aside from Charlie all got there tickets by unfairly playing the system." ]

[ "This is a friendly reminder to read our rules.\nRemember, /r/Showerthoughts is for showerthoughts, not \"thoughts had in the shower!\"\n(For an explanation of what a \"showerthought\" is, please read this page.)\nRule-breaking posts may result in bans.", ">\n\nI mean, one of them was German, and other than that it appeared to be a mix of British and American kids.", ">\n\nExactly. Put some respect on our bilingual king Augustus Gloop’s name OP! 🍫🇩🇪", ">\n\nFun fact! Did you know the actress who played his mother (Save some room for later!) was in a porn right around that time?", ">\n\nI didn't believe you, so I checked. This appears to be true!", ">\n\nI mean Michael Scott tried this and all the tickets went to the same company.", ">\n\nOmg maybe that episode was really just to shine light on the fact that there is a reason that all the tickets wound up going to the same demographic", ">\n\nNot really sure I’d consider Charlie Bucket and Veruca Salt as the same demographic.", ">\n\nPresumably old mate got confused between demographic and age bracket", ">\n\nAge is a demographic btw", ">\n\nOk. In the story, only Augustus Gloop and Mike Teavee are the same age (9), everyone else is a different age.\nBut why is it surprising that the main characters of a Roald Dahl Story are children? That’s kind of the point of all his children’s novels. \nThere is also almost always an element of magic, or at least the unexplained-possibly-paranormal in his books. In the novel, adults around the world searched like crazy for those tickets, but of course Wonka knows children will be the recipients because his factory, and indeed his candies, are made for children, and their imaginations. The tickets themselves were intended for children, never an adult.\nThe real convenience of it all lies in the the book being written for a target audience, and that audience is children… therefore, characters they relate to.", ">\n\nI wasn’t inherently disagreeing with you (I was responding to the person above who assumed you didn’t think age is a demographic), you can narrow the age demographic to whatever you want. I’d consider “children” to be a general age demographic, but if you want to split it up, that’s fair. \nUntil your response, I didn’t think you were referring to their age, but other points of their demographic profile (SES, culture, location, etc).", ">\n\nI’m sorry, I misunderstood! You are right in thinking I wasn’t referring to their age, btw. I agree they all fit an age demographic, but that’s hardly relevant compared to the social statuses Dahl has created for them.", ">\n\nIt's also incredibly convenient that Wonka's creepy-looking henchman was at the right time and place when all of them were discovered. Almost as if they were planted.", ">\n\nWell there was nothing \"incredibly convenient\" about the winners being English speakers. That was about 99% of the UK at the time.", ">\n\nBecause the only place willy wonkas factory shipped to was within the United Kingdoms borders?", ">\n\nExcept in the film (never read the book) it was implied Wonka’s chocolates shipped out all over the world. I mean, Augustus Gloop was Austrian/German.\nBut yeah, the fact that it was all children who got it would be statistically improbable.", ">\n\nMeh, more kids buy candy than adults, and every year there are more kids than adults.", ">\n\nRight, but the candy wasn’t the main prize. You got a lifetime supply of chocolate which could be sold hand over fist, which I’m sure plenty of adults considered in their quest to find the golden tickets. And plus an exclusive tour of the world’s most mysterious and profitable candy company would almost truly be a once in a lifetime event, and you’re telling me some rich celebrity wouldn’t swoop in and offer any one of those children $10mil cash for the golden ticket, just to have the prestige of going to Wonka’s factory? Just doesn’t add up.", ">\n\nTrue", ">\n\nHappy Cake Day, Jan", ">\n\nHappy what?", ">\n\nIt’s your cake day. Hence the little cake icon next to your username.", ">\n\nIt's because the thing was rigged from the start. Willy Wonka had no children of his own, so he was specifically looking for an heir to take over his empire.", ">\n\nAnd a few to murder.", ">\n\nAs you do", ">\n\nAs is tradition", ">\n\nAs You Were - LG", ">\n\nConsidering the children were all horrible can you think of the uproar on what nationality gets what arsehole behaviour.", ">\n\nI got the impression that Wonka had pretty elaborate plans for the kids, and selected them specifically to teach them lessons?", ">\n\nExactly. He chose Charlie, it was just the final test.", ">\n\nIn the gene wilder version, the candy store salesman admits he was hiding Wonka bars while they were auctioning for extreme prices. Why would a man in the business of selling candy for profit do that? Then, it's not until charlie says he wants to buy something for his grandfather that the candy seller chooses the type of bar for him, and that bar has the golden ticket. \nHe knew he had it, and was intentionally holding it for somebody who wasn't buying for themselves.", ">\n\nCharlie & the chocolate factory Lore", ">\n\nReminds me of how in Boruto, the main ladies of Naruto took a collective pregnancy pact to birth children in the same year.", ">\n\nWhat the fuck", ">\n\nThat's not literally what happened.\nThe naruto cast just had children in the same class at the start of boruto. Which makes kind of sense because Naruto ends with a giant war and those make people have children historically but it's also obviously to have a story in which all the original characters are involved through their children.\nBut it's also so obviously contrived that people joke they all made a pact to get pregnant at the same time because otherwise it's too convenient that they all have children at close to the same age.", ">\n\nThe kids of Boruto are literal baby boomers", ">\n\nThe book is set in 1960s England… What else would they speak?", ">\n\nAre you implying minorities didn't exist back in the 60s? Especially after the war?", ">\n\nNo, they're implying that in a book written in English and probably set in either England or America, the characters all speaking English is not at all surprising.", ">\n\nYou're completely missing out on OP's point by trying to be a contrarian", ">\n\nNo, I'm pointing out that it's a children's book that was written in English and set in a country where English is by far the most commonly spoken language. So the fact that the main characters are mostly children who speak English is not surprising at all. Disagreeing is not the same as being contrarian.", ">\n\nYou are missing out on OP's point", ">\n\nPlease do tell, o enlightened one! What point am I missing exactly?", ">\n\nOr maybe they just didn’t ship the golden ticket chocolate bars to other countries… \nI doubt there we’re many people living in England who speak no English back in those days", ">\n\nAugustus Gloop was German, though? I mean, maybe he was a German immigrant who moved to England, but I was always under the impression that he lived in Germany based on his and his parents' accents.", ">\n\nAnd I thought Mike was the American. What with all the cowboy gear. Could be from anywhere I guess.", ">\n\nYou are seeking logic in a movie where a piece of gum turns a girl into a blueberry… let that sink in", ">\n\n\"I do say, that song & dance all seemed a bit rehearsed!\" (Best line from the remake.)", ">\n\nTLDW - \nBetween 12% and 24%\nThe range is caused when the definition of “white person/English speaking” is changed", ">\n\nI'll bet when you consider that globalization want a thing in the 1920s and you eliminate basically all of Asia, Africa, and South America considering an American candy company's distribution network. The British kid was from a wealthy family who spent insane amounts of money to find a ticket. \nThe the German kid is the most odd to me. How popular has American chocolate ever been in Germany? I'm guessing that is not very popular and that since his family only seemed relatively well off, a trip to America may have been a prohibitive expense due nothing more than a candy factory tour.\nEdit: TIL that the story took place in England (definitely at the forefront of globalization, even in the 1920s). So, that pretty much destroys the logic of my argument.", ">\n\nKid was also a chubster who inhaled sweets like air.", ">\n\nTo be fair English speaking countries tend to be richer therefore more kids there will buy more chocolate and therefore are more likely to get the tickets (Eg. Veruca buying hundreds of chocolates will give her a higher probability of landing a golden ticket than Charlie who can only afford one). \nBut yeah the fact that they’re children makes it rigged. Like I’m sure a teenager or even an adult would’ve gotten one because they bought chocolates too not just the kids.", ">\n\nWhat's strange is that one of those children wasn't an English speaker in real life and just learned the few lives he had to say in English without actually understanding everything.", ">\n\nI mean, it's a good way to murder your kids for insurance money and have a good alibi.", ">\n\nNot that convenient as britan is a white English speaking country it would be weird if it was different is what you meant to say 🤔", ">\n\nGrandpa Joe didn't get out of bed for 20 years. He let everyone take care of him. He decided he could walk again to see Wankas chocolate factory.", ">\n\nI still remember:\nteacher \"And all they had to eat every day was spinach\"\ngirl sitting on floor \"But I dont like spinach\"\nteacher looks down from book \"Then you would die.\"\nclass shocked picachu face\nme, in the back, cant hold back the laughter\nkid next to me looks over, What's your problem? written on his fucking kid face\ni cant speak... only laugh/cry", ">\n\nDidn't the film theory guy on YT calculate the odds of that happening?", ">\n\nAugustus Gloop wasn’t English. He was German. Don’t think he talked English at all.", ">\n\nIt's as convenient in England during that time period as it would be today if in Mexico they had something, and all the winners spoke Spanish. In other words, it's not suspiciously convenient at all.", ">\n\nThats all depends on where wonka sells his chocolate bars right?", ">\n\nSo you can suspend disbelief long enough to accept a factory with a chocolate river and candy plants but all the kids who found tickets speak the same language is just too much..", ">\n\nOf all the unreasonable events related to that story, you found the least one.", ">\n\nAugustus Gloop was from Germany.\nMike Teevee was from the USA.", ">\n\nI mean, it was America in the 1920s ... not a real inclusive time period. Not a lot of globalization going on in the 1920s, in America.\nEdit: 1920s England it seems ... so a fair bit more globalization than I'd assumed", ">\n\nPlenty of black people though.\nEdit: got those who can’t be bothered reading the stupid Reddit argument below, Charlie was originally written as black, and his family was dirt poor.", ">\n\nWhat do you think that the black population in the US (or any country that a British candy maker would have exported to in the 1920s for that matter) was in the 1920s?", ">\n\nAbout 10,000,000, according to Wikipedia.", ">\n\nSounds right ... a little less than 10% of the population.\nAnd how; do you think, many were in a socioeconomic position to spend money on imported European chocolate.", ">\n\nWhy don’t you answer your own question? I was responding to your point about the lack of “globalization” in the US, not about purchasing power of black Americans in 1920.", ">\n\nNo, you're were taking a position to insinuate that I was taking a position. So that you could seem or just feel superior in the \"great virtue\" that comes with micro-focusing on meaningless and disjointed facts out of context on your socials, because no one usually objects or bothers to call you out on your bullshit. \nMy next point would've been about how familiar with the black experience in 1920s America, do you think that Roald Dahl (a British writer in the 1960s) was, to be able to confidently include that in his book.", ">\n\npaywall", ">\n\nYour point is taken, but it was four kids of the same age, and one peanut-sheller trying to keep a terrible job.", ">\n\nThey weren't all found by kids, one of them had their father buy up all the stock and have his factory open them all and get a ticket, Agustus was eating loads of chocolate anyway, so his was a high chance relative to others. Except for charlie, they had systems in place to find them. Maybe Mike as well. But the film doesn't show that,", ">\n\nConvenient or just common sense? Look at the demographics of the time, things make sense when you use logic.", ">\n\nMy Chinese mum held onto dried plumbs for 6 months when she was a kid. That’s how deprived of decent sweets China was in the 70’s", ">\n\nThe Oompah Lumpah uprising will spare none of the bourgeoisie.", ">\n\nIf you ask that monster grandpa Joe, he would disagree. And crop dust you with cabbage farts as he waltzed away.", ">\n\nOompa loompas are just for show. Behind the colourful fake factory, the real factory is dark, damp, cold, and staffed by migrant children", ">\n\nIn the original book, Oompa Loompas were explicitly described as dark-skinned African pygmies who insisted on wearing their native clothing of skins and leaves- and the kids went naked. \nHe found them in their native country being preyed upon constantly by \"Whangdoodles, the Hornswogglers, and the Snozzwangers\" and offered to take them to live in his factory and they were happy to be paid in cacao beans.\nWilly Wonka is in a TON of legal trouble. Massive immigration and labor law violations, arguably slavery, is only the start. Child endangerment, manslaughter/negligent homicide, unsafe food handling practices, environmental pollution, and running illegal sweepstakes. \nPlus, seeing how the factory is a huge toxic pit of civil and criminal legal entanglements, he tries to just give his illegal sweatshop away to a random kid in an attempt to walk away from it and leave Charlie responsible for the consequences- which, legally, won't work", ">\n\nDid Augustus even speak? I remember his mom had a super thick accent.", ">\n\nHe did, but it was minimal dialogue. I think he offers Charlie some chocolate and makes a comment about eating more candy", ">\n\nIt's the same premise behind all the aliens invading Earth on Doctor Who starting with the UK.", ">\n\nI always thought it was strange that they were all conveniently found before the date on the ticket. Charlie's was found just the day before.", ">\n\nThey were all from countries where speaking English is very commonplace", ">\n\nIt’s like the McDonalds Monopoly game, it was rigged from the start.", ">\n\nI mean… he was the one who sent them out, he could’ve only sent the 5 to certain stores, or paid the owners of those store to specifically hand them to the people who got them, or any number of other things. We have no clue how deep wokna’s plan goes", ">\n\nIt's part of the story, the kids aside from Charlie all got there tickets by unfairly playing the system.", ">\n\nIt was an American company, I imagine its products were more distributed in America, and then to a lesser extent in Europe, then even less in other places. Sure enough, only two were non-Americans, and they were both from Europe." ]

[ "This is a friendly reminder to read our rules.\nRemember, /r/Showerthoughts is for showerthoughts, not \"thoughts had in the shower!\"\n(For an explanation of what a \"showerthought\" is, please read this page.)\nRule-breaking posts may result in bans.", ">\n\nI mean, one of them was German, and other than that it appeared to be a mix of British and American kids.", ">\n\nExactly. Put some respect on our bilingual king Augustus Gloop’s name OP! 🍫🇩🇪", ">\n\nFun fact! Did you know the actress who played his mother (Save some room for later!) was in a porn right around that time?", ">\n\nI didn't believe you, so I checked. This appears to be true!", ">\n\nI mean Michael Scott tried this and all the tickets went to the same company.", ">\n\nOmg maybe that episode was really just to shine light on the fact that there is a reason that all the tickets wound up going to the same demographic", ">\n\nNot really sure I’d consider Charlie Bucket and Veruca Salt as the same demographic.", ">\n\nPresumably old mate got confused between demographic and age bracket", ">\n\nAge is a demographic btw", ">\n\nOk. In the story, only Augustus Gloop and Mike Teavee are the same age (9), everyone else is a different age.\nBut why is it surprising that the main characters of a Roald Dahl Story are children? That’s kind of the point of all his children’s novels. \nThere is also almost always an element of magic, or at least the unexplained-possibly-paranormal in his books. In the novel, adults around the world searched like crazy for those tickets, but of course Wonka knows children will be the recipients because his factory, and indeed his candies, are made for children, and their imaginations. The tickets themselves were intended for children, never an adult.\nThe real convenience of it all lies in the the book being written for a target audience, and that audience is children… therefore, characters they relate to.", ">\n\nI wasn’t inherently disagreeing with you (I was responding to the person above who assumed you didn’t think age is a demographic), you can narrow the age demographic to whatever you want. I’d consider “children” to be a general age demographic, but if you want to split it up, that’s fair. \nUntil your response, I didn’t think you were referring to their age, but other points of their demographic profile (SES, culture, location, etc).", ">\n\nI’m sorry, I misunderstood! You are right in thinking I wasn’t referring to their age, btw. I agree they all fit an age demographic, but that’s hardly relevant compared to the social statuses Dahl has created for them.", ">\n\nIt's also incredibly convenient that Wonka's creepy-looking henchman was at the right time and place when all of them were discovered. Almost as if they were planted.", ">\n\nWell there was nothing \"incredibly convenient\" about the winners being English speakers. That was about 99% of the UK at the time.", ">\n\nBecause the only place willy wonkas factory shipped to was within the United Kingdoms borders?", ">\n\nExcept in the film (never read the book) it was implied Wonka’s chocolates shipped out all over the world. I mean, Augustus Gloop was Austrian/German.\nBut yeah, the fact that it was all children who got it would be statistically improbable.", ">\n\nMeh, more kids buy candy than adults, and every year there are more kids than adults.", ">\n\nRight, but the candy wasn’t the main prize. You got a lifetime supply of chocolate which could be sold hand over fist, which I’m sure plenty of adults considered in their quest to find the golden tickets. And plus an exclusive tour of the world’s most mysterious and profitable candy company would almost truly be a once in a lifetime event, and you’re telling me some rich celebrity wouldn’t swoop in and offer any one of those children $10mil cash for the golden ticket, just to have the prestige of going to Wonka’s factory? Just doesn’t add up.", ">\n\nTrue", ">\n\nHappy Cake Day, Jan", ">\n\nHappy what?", ">\n\nIt’s your cake day. Hence the little cake icon next to your username.", ">\n\nIt's because the thing was rigged from the start. Willy Wonka had no children of his own, so he was specifically looking for an heir to take over his empire.", ">\n\nAnd a few to murder.", ">\n\nAs you do", ">\n\nAs is tradition", ">\n\nAs You Were - LG", ">\n\nConsidering the children were all horrible can you think of the uproar on what nationality gets what arsehole behaviour.", ">\n\nI got the impression that Wonka had pretty elaborate plans for the kids, and selected them specifically to teach them lessons?", ">\n\nExactly. He chose Charlie, it was just the final test.", ">\n\nIn the gene wilder version, the candy store salesman admits he was hiding Wonka bars while they were auctioning for extreme prices. Why would a man in the business of selling candy for profit do that? Then, it's not until charlie says he wants to buy something for his grandfather that the candy seller chooses the type of bar for him, and that bar has the golden ticket. \nHe knew he had it, and was intentionally holding it for somebody who wasn't buying for themselves.", ">\n\nCharlie & the chocolate factory Lore", ">\n\nReminds me of how in Boruto, the main ladies of Naruto took a collective pregnancy pact to birth children in the same year.", ">\n\nWhat the fuck", ">\n\nThat's not literally what happened.\nThe naruto cast just had children in the same class at the start of boruto. Which makes kind of sense because Naruto ends with a giant war and those make people have children historically but it's also obviously to have a story in which all the original characters are involved through their children.\nBut it's also so obviously contrived that people joke they all made a pact to get pregnant at the same time because otherwise it's too convenient that they all have children at close to the same age.", ">\n\nThe kids of Boruto are literal baby boomers", ">\n\nThe book is set in 1960s England… What else would they speak?", ">\n\nAre you implying minorities didn't exist back in the 60s? Especially after the war?", ">\n\nNo, they're implying that in a book written in English and probably set in either England or America, the characters all speaking English is not at all surprising.", ">\n\nYou're completely missing out on OP's point by trying to be a contrarian", ">\n\nNo, I'm pointing out that it's a children's book that was written in English and set in a country where English is by far the most commonly spoken language. So the fact that the main characters are mostly children who speak English is not surprising at all. Disagreeing is not the same as being contrarian.", ">\n\nYou are missing out on OP's point", ">\n\nPlease do tell, o enlightened one! What point am I missing exactly?", ">\n\nOr maybe they just didn’t ship the golden ticket chocolate bars to other countries… \nI doubt there we’re many people living in England who speak no English back in those days", ">\n\nAugustus Gloop was German, though? I mean, maybe he was a German immigrant who moved to England, but I was always under the impression that he lived in Germany based on his and his parents' accents.", ">\n\nAnd I thought Mike was the American. What with all the cowboy gear. Could be from anywhere I guess.", ">\n\nYou are seeking logic in a movie where a piece of gum turns a girl into a blueberry… let that sink in", ">\n\n\"I do say, that song & dance all seemed a bit rehearsed!\" (Best line from the remake.)", ">\n\nTLDW - \nBetween 12% and 24%\nThe range is caused when the definition of “white person/English speaking” is changed", ">\n\nI'll bet when you consider that globalization want a thing in the 1920s and you eliminate basically all of Asia, Africa, and South America considering an American candy company's distribution network. The British kid was from a wealthy family who spent insane amounts of money to find a ticket. \nThe the German kid is the most odd to me. How popular has American chocolate ever been in Germany? I'm guessing that is not very popular and that since his family only seemed relatively well off, a trip to America may have been a prohibitive expense due nothing more than a candy factory tour.\nEdit: TIL that the story took place in England (definitely at the forefront of globalization, even in the 1920s). So, that pretty much destroys the logic of my argument.", ">\n\nKid was also a chubster who inhaled sweets like air.", ">\n\nTo be fair English speaking countries tend to be richer therefore more kids there will buy more chocolate and therefore are more likely to get the tickets (Eg. Veruca buying hundreds of chocolates will give her a higher probability of landing a golden ticket than Charlie who can only afford one). \nBut yeah the fact that they’re children makes it rigged. Like I’m sure a teenager or even an adult would’ve gotten one because they bought chocolates too not just the kids.", ">\n\nWhat's strange is that one of those children wasn't an English speaker in real life and just learned the few lives he had to say in English without actually understanding everything.", ">\n\nI mean, it's a good way to murder your kids for insurance money and have a good alibi.", ">\n\nNot that convenient as britan is a white English speaking country it would be weird if it was different is what you meant to say 🤔", ">\n\nGrandpa Joe didn't get out of bed for 20 years. He let everyone take care of him. He decided he could walk again to see Wankas chocolate factory.", ">\n\nI still remember:\nteacher \"And all they had to eat every day was spinach\"\ngirl sitting on floor \"But I dont like spinach\"\nteacher looks down from book \"Then you would die.\"\nclass shocked picachu face\nme, in the back, cant hold back the laughter\nkid next to me looks over, What's your problem? written on his fucking kid face\ni cant speak... only laugh/cry", ">\n\nDidn't the film theory guy on YT calculate the odds of that happening?", ">\n\nAugustus Gloop wasn’t English. He was German. Don’t think he talked English at all.", ">\n\nIt's as convenient in England during that time period as it would be today if in Mexico they had something, and all the winners spoke Spanish. In other words, it's not suspiciously convenient at all.", ">\n\nThats all depends on where wonka sells his chocolate bars right?", ">\n\nSo you can suspend disbelief long enough to accept a factory with a chocolate river and candy plants but all the kids who found tickets speak the same language is just too much..", ">\n\nOf all the unreasonable events related to that story, you found the least one.", ">\n\nAugustus Gloop was from Germany.\nMike Teevee was from the USA.", ">\n\nI mean, it was America in the 1920s ... not a real inclusive time period. Not a lot of globalization going on in the 1920s, in America.\nEdit: 1920s England it seems ... so a fair bit more globalization than I'd assumed", ">\n\nPlenty of black people though.\nEdit: got those who can’t be bothered reading the stupid Reddit argument below, Charlie was originally written as black, and his family was dirt poor.", ">\n\nWhat do you think that the black population in the US (or any country that a British candy maker would have exported to in the 1920s for that matter) was in the 1920s?", ">\n\nAbout 10,000,000, according to Wikipedia.", ">\n\nSounds right ... a little less than 10% of the population.\nAnd how; do you think, many were in a socioeconomic position to spend money on imported European chocolate.", ">\n\nWhy don’t you answer your own question? I was responding to your point about the lack of “globalization” in the US, not about purchasing power of black Americans in 1920.", ">\n\nNo, you're were taking a position to insinuate that I was taking a position. So that you could seem or just feel superior in the \"great virtue\" that comes with micro-focusing on meaningless and disjointed facts out of context on your socials, because no one usually objects or bothers to call you out on your bullshit. \nMy next point would've been about how familiar with the black experience in 1920s America, do you think that Roald Dahl (a British writer in the 1960s) was, to be able to confidently include that in his book.", ">\n\npaywall", ">\n\nYour point is taken, but it was four kids of the same age, and one peanut-sheller trying to keep a terrible job.", ">\n\nThey weren't all found by kids, one of them had their father buy up all the stock and have his factory open them all and get a ticket, Agustus was eating loads of chocolate anyway, so his was a high chance relative to others. Except for charlie, they had systems in place to find them. Maybe Mike as well. But the film doesn't show that,", ">\n\nConvenient or just common sense? Look at the demographics of the time, things make sense when you use logic.", ">\n\nMy Chinese mum held onto dried plumbs for 6 months when she was a kid. That’s how deprived of decent sweets China was in the 70’s", ">\n\nThe Oompah Lumpah uprising will spare none of the bourgeoisie.", ">\n\nIf you ask that monster grandpa Joe, he would disagree. And crop dust you with cabbage farts as he waltzed away.", ">\n\nOompa loompas are just for show. Behind the colourful fake factory, the real factory is dark, damp, cold, and staffed by migrant children", ">\n\nIn the original book, Oompa Loompas were explicitly described as dark-skinned African pygmies who insisted on wearing their native clothing of skins and leaves- and the kids went naked. \nHe found them in their native country being preyed upon constantly by \"Whangdoodles, the Hornswogglers, and the Snozzwangers\" and offered to take them to live in his factory and they were happy to be paid in cacao beans.\nWilly Wonka is in a TON of legal trouble. Massive immigration and labor law violations, arguably slavery, is only the start. Child endangerment, manslaughter/negligent homicide, unsafe food handling practices, environmental pollution, and running illegal sweepstakes. \nPlus, seeing how the factory is a huge toxic pit of civil and criminal legal entanglements, he tries to just give his illegal sweatshop away to a random kid in an attempt to walk away from it and leave Charlie responsible for the consequences- which, legally, won't work", ">\n\nDid Augustus even speak? I remember his mom had a super thick accent.", ">\n\nHe did, but it was minimal dialogue. I think he offers Charlie some chocolate and makes a comment about eating more candy", ">\n\nIt's the same premise behind all the aliens invading Earth on Doctor Who starting with the UK.", ">\n\nI always thought it was strange that they were all conveniently found before the date on the ticket. Charlie's was found just the day before.", ">\n\nThey were all from countries where speaking English is very commonplace", ">\n\nIt’s like the McDonalds Monopoly game, it was rigged from the start.", ">\n\nI mean… he was the one who sent them out, he could’ve only sent the 5 to certain stores, or paid the owners of those store to specifically hand them to the people who got them, or any number of other things. We have no clue how deep wokna’s plan goes", ">\n\nIt's part of the story, the kids aside from Charlie all got there tickets by unfairly playing the system.", ">\n\nIt was an American company, I imagine its products were more distributed in America, and then to a lesser extent in Europe, then even less in other places. Sure enough, only two were non-Americans, and they were both from Europe.", ">\n\nDon't ask too many questions or the oompa loompas will pay you a visit" ]

[ "This is a friendly reminder to read our rules.\nRemember, /r/Showerthoughts is for showerthoughts, not \"thoughts had in the shower!\"\n(For an explanation of what a \"showerthought\" is, please read this page.)\nRule-breaking posts may result in bans.", ">\n\nI mean, one of them was German, and other than that it appeared to be a mix of British and American kids.", ">\n\nExactly. Put some respect on our bilingual king Augustus Gloop’s name OP! 🍫🇩🇪", ">\n\nFun fact! Did you know the actress who played his mother (Save some room for later!) was in a porn right around that time?", ">\n\nI didn't believe you, so I checked. This appears to be true!", ">\n\nI mean Michael Scott tried this and all the tickets went to the same company.", ">\n\nOmg maybe that episode was really just to shine light on the fact that there is a reason that all the tickets wound up going to the same demographic", ">\n\nNot really sure I’d consider Charlie Bucket and Veruca Salt as the same demographic.", ">\n\nPresumably old mate got confused between demographic and age bracket", ">\n\nAge is a demographic btw", ">\n\nOk. In the story, only Augustus Gloop and Mike Teavee are the same age (9), everyone else is a different age.\nBut why is it surprising that the main characters of a Roald Dahl Story are children? That’s kind of the point of all his children’s novels. \nThere is also almost always an element of magic, or at least the unexplained-possibly-paranormal in his books. In the novel, adults around the world searched like crazy for those tickets, but of course Wonka knows children will be the recipients because his factory, and indeed his candies, are made for children, and their imaginations. The tickets themselves were intended for children, never an adult.\nThe real convenience of it all lies in the the book being written for a target audience, and that audience is children… therefore, characters they relate to.", ">\n\nI wasn’t inherently disagreeing with you (I was responding to the person above who assumed you didn’t think age is a demographic), you can narrow the age demographic to whatever you want. I’d consider “children” to be a general age demographic, but if you want to split it up, that’s fair. \nUntil your response, I didn’t think you were referring to their age, but other points of their demographic profile (SES, culture, location, etc).", ">\n\nI’m sorry, I misunderstood! You are right in thinking I wasn’t referring to their age, btw. I agree they all fit an age demographic, but that’s hardly relevant compared to the social statuses Dahl has created for them.", ">\n\nIt's also incredibly convenient that Wonka's creepy-looking henchman was at the right time and place when all of them were discovered. Almost as if they were planted.", ">\n\nWell there was nothing \"incredibly convenient\" about the winners being English speakers. That was about 99% of the UK at the time.", ">\n\nBecause the only place willy wonkas factory shipped to was within the United Kingdoms borders?", ">\n\nExcept in the film (never read the book) it was implied Wonka’s chocolates shipped out all over the world. I mean, Augustus Gloop was Austrian/German.\nBut yeah, the fact that it was all children who got it would be statistically improbable.", ">\n\nMeh, more kids buy candy than adults, and every year there are more kids than adults.", ">\n\nRight, but the candy wasn’t the main prize. You got a lifetime supply of chocolate which could be sold hand over fist, which I’m sure plenty of adults considered in their quest to find the golden tickets. And plus an exclusive tour of the world’s most mysterious and profitable candy company would almost truly be a once in a lifetime event, and you’re telling me some rich celebrity wouldn’t swoop in and offer any one of those children $10mil cash for the golden ticket, just to have the prestige of going to Wonka’s factory? Just doesn’t add up.", ">\n\nTrue", ">\n\nHappy Cake Day, Jan", ">\n\nHappy what?", ">\n\nIt’s your cake day. Hence the little cake icon next to your username.", ">\n\nIt's because the thing was rigged from the start. Willy Wonka had no children of his own, so he was specifically looking for an heir to take over his empire.", ">\n\nAnd a few to murder.", ">\n\nAs you do", ">\n\nAs is tradition", ">\n\nAs You Were - LG", ">\n\nConsidering the children were all horrible can you think of the uproar on what nationality gets what arsehole behaviour.", ">\n\nI got the impression that Wonka had pretty elaborate plans for the kids, and selected them specifically to teach them lessons?", ">\n\nExactly. He chose Charlie, it was just the final test.", ">\n\nIn the gene wilder version, the candy store salesman admits he was hiding Wonka bars while they were auctioning for extreme prices. Why would a man in the business of selling candy for profit do that? Then, it's not until charlie says he wants to buy something for his grandfather that the candy seller chooses the type of bar for him, and that bar has the golden ticket. \nHe knew he had it, and was intentionally holding it for somebody who wasn't buying for themselves.", ">\n\nCharlie & the chocolate factory Lore", ">\n\nReminds me of how in Boruto, the main ladies of Naruto took a collective pregnancy pact to birth children in the same year.", ">\n\nWhat the fuck", ">\n\nThat's not literally what happened.\nThe naruto cast just had children in the same class at the start of boruto. Which makes kind of sense because Naruto ends with a giant war and those make people have children historically but it's also obviously to have a story in which all the original characters are involved through their children.\nBut it's also so obviously contrived that people joke they all made a pact to get pregnant at the same time because otherwise it's too convenient that they all have children at close to the same age.", ">\n\nThe kids of Boruto are literal baby boomers", ">\n\nThe book is set in 1960s England… What else would they speak?", ">\n\nAre you implying minorities didn't exist back in the 60s? Especially after the war?", ">\n\nNo, they're implying that in a book written in English and probably set in either England or America, the characters all speaking English is not at all surprising.", ">\n\nYou're completely missing out on OP's point by trying to be a contrarian", ">\n\nNo, I'm pointing out that it's a children's book that was written in English and set in a country where English is by far the most commonly spoken language. So the fact that the main characters are mostly children who speak English is not surprising at all. Disagreeing is not the same as being contrarian.", ">\n\nYou are missing out on OP's point", ">\n\nPlease do tell, o enlightened one! What point am I missing exactly?", ">\n\nOr maybe they just didn’t ship the golden ticket chocolate bars to other countries… \nI doubt there we’re many people living in England who speak no English back in those days", ">\n\nAugustus Gloop was German, though? I mean, maybe he was a German immigrant who moved to England, but I was always under the impression that he lived in Germany based on his and his parents' accents.", ">\n\nAnd I thought Mike was the American. What with all the cowboy gear. Could be from anywhere I guess.", ">\n\nYou are seeking logic in a movie where a piece of gum turns a girl into a blueberry… let that sink in", ">\n\n\"I do say, that song & dance all seemed a bit rehearsed!\" (Best line from the remake.)", ">\n\nTLDW - \nBetween 12% and 24%\nThe range is caused when the definition of “white person/English speaking” is changed", ">\n\nI'll bet when you consider that globalization want a thing in the 1920s and you eliminate basically all of Asia, Africa, and South America considering an American candy company's distribution network. The British kid was from a wealthy family who spent insane amounts of money to find a ticket. \nThe the German kid is the most odd to me. How popular has American chocolate ever been in Germany? I'm guessing that is not very popular and that since his family only seemed relatively well off, a trip to America may have been a prohibitive expense due nothing more than a candy factory tour.\nEdit: TIL that the story took place in England (definitely at the forefront of globalization, even in the 1920s). So, that pretty much destroys the logic of my argument.", ">\n\nKid was also a chubster who inhaled sweets like air.", ">\n\nTo be fair English speaking countries tend to be richer therefore more kids there will buy more chocolate and therefore are more likely to get the tickets (Eg. Veruca buying hundreds of chocolates will give her a higher probability of landing a golden ticket than Charlie who can only afford one). \nBut yeah the fact that they’re children makes it rigged. Like I’m sure a teenager or even an adult would’ve gotten one because they bought chocolates too not just the kids.", ">\n\nWhat's strange is that one of those children wasn't an English speaker in real life and just learned the few lives he had to say in English without actually understanding everything.", ">\n\nI mean, it's a good way to murder your kids for insurance money and have a good alibi.", ">\n\nNot that convenient as britan is a white English speaking country it would be weird if it was different is what you meant to say 🤔", ">\n\nGrandpa Joe didn't get out of bed for 20 years. He let everyone take care of him. He decided he could walk again to see Wankas chocolate factory.", ">\n\nI still remember:\nteacher \"And all they had to eat every day was spinach\"\ngirl sitting on floor \"But I dont like spinach\"\nteacher looks down from book \"Then you would die.\"\nclass shocked picachu face\nme, in the back, cant hold back the laughter\nkid next to me looks over, What's your problem? written on his fucking kid face\ni cant speak... only laugh/cry", ">\n\nDidn't the film theory guy on YT calculate the odds of that happening?", ">\n\nAugustus Gloop wasn’t English. He was German. Don’t think he talked English at all.", ">\n\nIt's as convenient in England during that time period as it would be today if in Mexico they had something, and all the winners spoke Spanish. In other words, it's not suspiciously convenient at all.", ">\n\nThats all depends on where wonka sells his chocolate bars right?", ">\n\nSo you can suspend disbelief long enough to accept a factory with a chocolate river and candy plants but all the kids who found tickets speak the same language is just too much..", ">\n\nOf all the unreasonable events related to that story, you found the least one.", ">\n\nAugustus Gloop was from Germany.\nMike Teevee was from the USA.", ">\n\nI mean, it was America in the 1920s ... not a real inclusive time period. Not a lot of globalization going on in the 1920s, in America.\nEdit: 1920s England it seems ... so a fair bit more globalization than I'd assumed", ">\n\nPlenty of black people though.\nEdit: got those who can’t be bothered reading the stupid Reddit argument below, Charlie was originally written as black, and his family was dirt poor.", ">\n\nWhat do you think that the black population in the US (or any country that a British candy maker would have exported to in the 1920s for that matter) was in the 1920s?", ">\n\nAbout 10,000,000, according to Wikipedia.", ">\n\nSounds right ... a little less than 10% of the population.\nAnd how; do you think, many were in a socioeconomic position to spend money on imported European chocolate.", ">\n\nWhy don’t you answer your own question? I was responding to your point about the lack of “globalization” in the US, not about purchasing power of black Americans in 1920.", ">\n\nNo, you're were taking a position to insinuate that I was taking a position. So that you could seem or just feel superior in the \"great virtue\" that comes with micro-focusing on meaningless and disjointed facts out of context on your socials, because no one usually objects or bothers to call you out on your bullshit. \nMy next point would've been about how familiar with the black experience in 1920s America, do you think that Roald Dahl (a British writer in the 1960s) was, to be able to confidently include that in his book.", ">\n\npaywall", ">\n\nYour point is taken, but it was four kids of the same age, and one peanut-sheller trying to keep a terrible job.", ">\n\nThey weren't all found by kids, one of them had their father buy up all the stock and have his factory open them all and get a ticket, Agustus was eating loads of chocolate anyway, so his was a high chance relative to others. Except for charlie, they had systems in place to find them. Maybe Mike as well. But the film doesn't show that,", ">\n\nConvenient or just common sense? Look at the demographics of the time, things make sense when you use logic.", ">\n\nMy Chinese mum held onto dried plumbs for 6 months when she was a kid. That’s how deprived of decent sweets China was in the 70’s", ">\n\nThe Oompah Lumpah uprising will spare none of the bourgeoisie.", ">\n\nIf you ask that monster grandpa Joe, he would disagree. And crop dust you with cabbage farts as he waltzed away.", ">\n\nOompa loompas are just for show. Behind the colourful fake factory, the real factory is dark, damp, cold, and staffed by migrant children", ">\n\nIn the original book, Oompa Loompas were explicitly described as dark-skinned African pygmies who insisted on wearing their native clothing of skins and leaves- and the kids went naked. \nHe found them in their native country being preyed upon constantly by \"Whangdoodles, the Hornswogglers, and the Snozzwangers\" and offered to take them to live in his factory and they were happy to be paid in cacao beans.\nWilly Wonka is in a TON of legal trouble. Massive immigration and labor law violations, arguably slavery, is only the start. Child endangerment, manslaughter/negligent homicide, unsafe food handling practices, environmental pollution, and running illegal sweepstakes. \nPlus, seeing how the factory is a huge toxic pit of civil and criminal legal entanglements, he tries to just give his illegal sweatshop away to a random kid in an attempt to walk away from it and leave Charlie responsible for the consequences- which, legally, won't work", ">\n\nDid Augustus even speak? I remember his mom had a super thick accent.", ">\n\nHe did, but it was minimal dialogue. I think he offers Charlie some chocolate and makes a comment about eating more candy", ">\n\nIt's the same premise behind all the aliens invading Earth on Doctor Who starting with the UK.", ">\n\nI always thought it was strange that they were all conveniently found before the date on the ticket. Charlie's was found just the day before.", ">\n\nThey were all from countries where speaking English is very commonplace", ">\n\nIt’s like the McDonalds Monopoly game, it was rigged from the start.", ">\n\nI mean… he was the one who sent them out, he could’ve only sent the 5 to certain stores, or paid the owners of those store to specifically hand them to the people who got them, or any number of other things. We have no clue how deep wokna’s plan goes", ">\n\nIt's part of the story, the kids aside from Charlie all got there tickets by unfairly playing the system.", ">\n\nIt was an American company, I imagine its products were more distributed in America, and then to a lesser extent in Europe, then even less in other places. Sure enough, only two were non-Americans, and they were both from Europe.", ">\n\nDon't ask too many questions or the oompa loompas will pay you a visit", ">\n\nThat's the point, most of the kids were rich, and bought their way to a golden ticket." ]

[ "This is a friendly reminder to read our rules.\nRemember, /r/Showerthoughts is for showerthoughts, not \"thoughts had in the shower!\"\n(For an explanation of what a \"showerthought\" is, please read this page.)\nRule-breaking posts may result in bans.", ">\n\nI mean, one of them was German, and other than that it appeared to be a mix of British and American kids.", ">\n\nExactly. Put some respect on our bilingual king Augustus Gloop’s name OP! 🍫🇩🇪", ">\n\nFun fact! Did you know the actress who played his mother (Save some room for later!) was in a porn right around that time?", ">\n\nI didn't believe you, so I checked. This appears to be true!", ">\n\nI mean Michael Scott tried this and all the tickets went to the same company.", ">\n\nOmg maybe that episode was really just to shine light on the fact that there is a reason that all the tickets wound up going to the same demographic", ">\n\nNot really sure I’d consider Charlie Bucket and Veruca Salt as the same demographic.", ">\n\nPresumably old mate got confused between demographic and age bracket", ">\n\nAge is a demographic btw", ">\n\nOk. In the story, only Augustus Gloop and Mike Teavee are the same age (9), everyone else is a different age.\nBut why is it surprising that the main characters of a Roald Dahl Story are children? That’s kind of the point of all his children’s novels. \nThere is also almost always an element of magic, or at least the unexplained-possibly-paranormal in his books. In the novel, adults around the world searched like crazy for those tickets, but of course Wonka knows children will be the recipients because his factory, and indeed his candies, are made for children, and their imaginations. The tickets themselves were intended for children, never an adult.\nThe real convenience of it all lies in the the book being written for a target audience, and that audience is children… therefore, characters they relate to.", ">\n\nI wasn’t inherently disagreeing with you (I was responding to the person above who assumed you didn’t think age is a demographic), you can narrow the age demographic to whatever you want. I’d consider “children” to be a general age demographic, but if you want to split it up, that’s fair. \nUntil your response, I didn’t think you were referring to their age, but other points of their demographic profile (SES, culture, location, etc).", ">\n\nI’m sorry, I misunderstood! You are right in thinking I wasn’t referring to their age, btw. I agree they all fit an age demographic, but that’s hardly relevant compared to the social statuses Dahl has created for them.", ">\n\nIt's also incredibly convenient that Wonka's creepy-looking henchman was at the right time and place when all of them were discovered. Almost as if they were planted.", ">\n\nWell there was nothing \"incredibly convenient\" about the winners being English speakers. That was about 99% of the UK at the time.", ">\n\nBecause the only place willy wonkas factory shipped to was within the United Kingdoms borders?", ">\n\nExcept in the film (never read the book) it was implied Wonka’s chocolates shipped out all over the world. I mean, Augustus Gloop was Austrian/German.\nBut yeah, the fact that it was all children who got it would be statistically improbable.", ">\n\nMeh, more kids buy candy than adults, and every year there are more kids than adults.", ">\n\nRight, but the candy wasn’t the main prize. You got a lifetime supply of chocolate which could be sold hand over fist, which I’m sure plenty of adults considered in their quest to find the golden tickets. And plus an exclusive tour of the world’s most mysterious and profitable candy company would almost truly be a once in a lifetime event, and you’re telling me some rich celebrity wouldn’t swoop in and offer any one of those children $10mil cash for the golden ticket, just to have the prestige of going to Wonka’s factory? Just doesn’t add up.", ">\n\nTrue", ">\n\nHappy Cake Day, Jan", ">\n\nHappy what?", ">\n\nIt’s your cake day. Hence the little cake icon next to your username.", ">\n\nIt's because the thing was rigged from the start. Willy Wonka had no children of his own, so he was specifically looking for an heir to take over his empire.", ">\n\nAnd a few to murder.", ">\n\nAs you do", ">\n\nAs is tradition", ">\n\nAs You Were - LG", ">\n\nConsidering the children were all horrible can you think of the uproar on what nationality gets what arsehole behaviour.", ">\n\nI got the impression that Wonka had pretty elaborate plans for the kids, and selected them specifically to teach them lessons?", ">\n\nExactly. He chose Charlie, it was just the final test.", ">\n\nIn the gene wilder version, the candy store salesman admits he was hiding Wonka bars while they were auctioning for extreme prices. Why would a man in the business of selling candy for profit do that? Then, it's not until charlie says he wants to buy something for his grandfather that the candy seller chooses the type of bar for him, and that bar has the golden ticket. \nHe knew he had it, and was intentionally holding it for somebody who wasn't buying for themselves.", ">\n\nCharlie & the chocolate factory Lore", ">\n\nReminds me of how in Boruto, the main ladies of Naruto took a collective pregnancy pact to birth children in the same year.", ">\n\nWhat the fuck", ">\n\nThat's not literally what happened.\nThe naruto cast just had children in the same class at the start of boruto. Which makes kind of sense because Naruto ends with a giant war and those make people have children historically but it's also obviously to have a story in which all the original characters are involved through their children.\nBut it's also so obviously contrived that people joke they all made a pact to get pregnant at the same time because otherwise it's too convenient that they all have children at close to the same age.", ">\n\nThe kids of Boruto are literal baby boomers", ">\n\nThe book is set in 1960s England… What else would they speak?", ">\n\nAre you implying minorities didn't exist back in the 60s? Especially after the war?", ">\n\nNo, they're implying that in a book written in English and probably set in either England or America, the characters all speaking English is not at all surprising.", ">\n\nYou're completely missing out on OP's point by trying to be a contrarian", ">\n\nNo, I'm pointing out that it's a children's book that was written in English and set in a country where English is by far the most commonly spoken language. So the fact that the main characters are mostly children who speak English is not surprising at all. Disagreeing is not the same as being contrarian.", ">\n\nYou are missing out on OP's point", ">\n\nPlease do tell, o enlightened one! What point am I missing exactly?", ">\n\nOr maybe they just didn’t ship the golden ticket chocolate bars to other countries… \nI doubt there we’re many people living in England who speak no English back in those days", ">\n\nAugustus Gloop was German, though? I mean, maybe he was a German immigrant who moved to England, but I was always under the impression that he lived in Germany based on his and his parents' accents.", ">\n\nAnd I thought Mike was the American. What with all the cowboy gear. Could be from anywhere I guess.", ">\n\nYou are seeking logic in a movie where a piece of gum turns a girl into a blueberry… let that sink in", ">\n\n\"I do say, that song & dance all seemed a bit rehearsed!\" (Best line from the remake.)", ">\n\nTLDW - \nBetween 12% and 24%\nThe range is caused when the definition of “white person/English speaking” is changed", ">\n\nI'll bet when you consider that globalization want a thing in the 1920s and you eliminate basically all of Asia, Africa, and South America considering an American candy company's distribution network. The British kid was from a wealthy family who spent insane amounts of money to find a ticket. \nThe the German kid is the most odd to me. How popular has American chocolate ever been in Germany? I'm guessing that is not very popular and that since his family only seemed relatively well off, a trip to America may have been a prohibitive expense due nothing more than a candy factory tour.\nEdit: TIL that the story took place in England (definitely at the forefront of globalization, even in the 1920s). So, that pretty much destroys the logic of my argument.", ">\n\nKid was also a chubster who inhaled sweets like air.", ">\n\nTo be fair English speaking countries tend to be richer therefore more kids there will buy more chocolate and therefore are more likely to get the tickets (Eg. Veruca buying hundreds of chocolates will give her a higher probability of landing a golden ticket than Charlie who can only afford one). \nBut yeah the fact that they’re children makes it rigged. Like I’m sure a teenager or even an adult would’ve gotten one because they bought chocolates too not just the kids.", ">\n\nWhat's strange is that one of those children wasn't an English speaker in real life and just learned the few lives he had to say in English without actually understanding everything.", ">\n\nI mean, it's a good way to murder your kids for insurance money and have a good alibi.", ">\n\nNot that convenient as britan is a white English speaking country it would be weird if it was different is what you meant to say 🤔", ">\n\nGrandpa Joe didn't get out of bed for 20 years. He let everyone take care of him. He decided he could walk again to see Wankas chocolate factory.", ">\n\nI still remember:\nteacher \"And all they had to eat every day was spinach\"\ngirl sitting on floor \"But I dont like spinach\"\nteacher looks down from book \"Then you would die.\"\nclass shocked picachu face\nme, in the back, cant hold back the laughter\nkid next to me looks over, What's your problem? written on his fucking kid face\ni cant speak... only laugh/cry", ">\n\nDidn't the film theory guy on YT calculate the odds of that happening?", ">\n\nAugustus Gloop wasn’t English. He was German. Don’t think he talked English at all.", ">\n\nIt's as convenient in England during that time period as it would be today if in Mexico they had something, and all the winners spoke Spanish. In other words, it's not suspiciously convenient at all.", ">\n\nThats all depends on where wonka sells his chocolate bars right?", ">\n\nSo you can suspend disbelief long enough to accept a factory with a chocolate river and candy plants but all the kids who found tickets speak the same language is just too much..", ">\n\nOf all the unreasonable events related to that story, you found the least one.", ">\n\nAugustus Gloop was from Germany.\nMike Teevee was from the USA.", ">\n\nI mean, it was America in the 1920s ... not a real inclusive time period. Not a lot of globalization going on in the 1920s, in America.\nEdit: 1920s England it seems ... so a fair bit more globalization than I'd assumed", ">\n\nPlenty of black people though.\nEdit: got those who can’t be bothered reading the stupid Reddit argument below, Charlie was originally written as black, and his family was dirt poor.", ">\n\nWhat do you think that the black population in the US (or any country that a British candy maker would have exported to in the 1920s for that matter) was in the 1920s?", ">\n\nAbout 10,000,000, according to Wikipedia.", ">\n\nSounds right ... a little less than 10% of the population.\nAnd how; do you think, many were in a socioeconomic position to spend money on imported European chocolate.", ">\n\nWhy don’t you answer your own question? I was responding to your point about the lack of “globalization” in the US, not about purchasing power of black Americans in 1920.", ">\n\nNo, you're were taking a position to insinuate that I was taking a position. So that you could seem or just feel superior in the \"great virtue\" that comes with micro-focusing on meaningless and disjointed facts out of context on your socials, because no one usually objects or bothers to call you out on your bullshit. \nMy next point would've been about how familiar with the black experience in 1920s America, do you think that Roald Dahl (a British writer in the 1960s) was, to be able to confidently include that in his book.", ">\n\npaywall", ">\n\nYour point is taken, but it was four kids of the same age, and one peanut-sheller trying to keep a terrible job.", ">\n\nThey weren't all found by kids, one of them had their father buy up all the stock and have his factory open them all and get a ticket, Agustus was eating loads of chocolate anyway, so his was a high chance relative to others. Except for charlie, they had systems in place to find them. Maybe Mike as well. But the film doesn't show that,", ">\n\nConvenient or just common sense? Look at the demographics of the time, things make sense when you use logic.", ">\n\nMy Chinese mum held onto dried plumbs for 6 months when she was a kid. That’s how deprived of decent sweets China was in the 70’s", ">\n\nThe Oompah Lumpah uprising will spare none of the bourgeoisie.", ">\n\nIf you ask that monster grandpa Joe, he would disagree. And crop dust you with cabbage farts as he waltzed away.", ">\n\nOompa loompas are just for show. Behind the colourful fake factory, the real factory is dark, damp, cold, and staffed by migrant children", ">\n\nIn the original book, Oompa Loompas were explicitly described as dark-skinned African pygmies who insisted on wearing their native clothing of skins and leaves- and the kids went naked. \nHe found them in their native country being preyed upon constantly by \"Whangdoodles, the Hornswogglers, and the Snozzwangers\" and offered to take them to live in his factory and they were happy to be paid in cacao beans.\nWilly Wonka is in a TON of legal trouble. Massive immigration and labor law violations, arguably slavery, is only the start. Child endangerment, manslaughter/negligent homicide, unsafe food handling practices, environmental pollution, and running illegal sweepstakes. \nPlus, seeing how the factory is a huge toxic pit of civil and criminal legal entanglements, he tries to just give his illegal sweatshop away to a random kid in an attempt to walk away from it and leave Charlie responsible for the consequences- which, legally, won't work", ">\n\nDid Augustus even speak? I remember his mom had a super thick accent.", ">\n\nHe did, but it was minimal dialogue. I think he offers Charlie some chocolate and makes a comment about eating more candy", ">\n\nIt's the same premise behind all the aliens invading Earth on Doctor Who starting with the UK.", ">\n\nI always thought it was strange that they were all conveniently found before the date on the ticket. Charlie's was found just the day before.", ">\n\nThey were all from countries where speaking English is very commonplace", ">\n\nIt’s like the McDonalds Monopoly game, it was rigged from the start.", ">\n\nI mean… he was the one who sent them out, he could’ve only sent the 5 to certain stores, or paid the owners of those store to specifically hand them to the people who got them, or any number of other things. We have no clue how deep wokna’s plan goes", ">\n\nIt's part of the story, the kids aside from Charlie all got there tickets by unfairly playing the system.", ">\n\nIt was an American company, I imagine its products were more distributed in America, and then to a lesser extent in Europe, then even less in other places. Sure enough, only two were non-Americans, and they were both from Europe.", ">\n\nDon't ask too many questions or the oompa loompas will pay you a visit", ">\n\nThat's the point, most of the kids were rich, and bought their way to a golden ticket.", ">\n\nAnd all with the ability to afford transportation to the factory, or be within walking distance." ]

[ "This is a friendly reminder to read our rules.\nRemember, /r/Showerthoughts is for showerthoughts, not \"thoughts had in the shower!\"\n(For an explanation of what a \"showerthought\" is, please read this page.)\nRule-breaking posts may result in bans.", ">\n\nI mean, one of them was German, and other than that it appeared to be a mix of British and American kids.", ">\n\nExactly. Put some respect on our bilingual king Augustus Gloop’s name OP! 🍫🇩🇪", ">\n\nFun fact! Did you know the actress who played his mother (Save some room for later!) was in a porn right around that time?", ">\n\nI didn't believe you, so I checked. This appears to be true!", ">\n\nI mean Michael Scott tried this and all the tickets went to the same company.", ">\n\nOmg maybe that episode was really just to shine light on the fact that there is a reason that all the tickets wound up going to the same demographic", ">\n\nNot really sure I’d consider Charlie Bucket and Veruca Salt as the same demographic.", ">\n\nPresumably old mate got confused between demographic and age bracket", ">\n\nAge is a demographic btw", ">\n\nOk. In the story, only Augustus Gloop and Mike Teavee are the same age (9), everyone else is a different age.\nBut why is it surprising that the main characters of a Roald Dahl Story are children? That’s kind of the point of all his children’s novels. \nThere is also almost always an element of magic, or at least the unexplained-possibly-paranormal in his books. In the novel, adults around the world searched like crazy for those tickets, but of course Wonka knows children will be the recipients because his factory, and indeed his candies, are made for children, and their imaginations. The tickets themselves were intended for children, never an adult.\nThe real convenience of it all lies in the the book being written for a target audience, and that audience is children… therefore, characters they relate to.", ">\n\nI wasn’t inherently disagreeing with you (I was responding to the person above who assumed you didn’t think age is a demographic), you can narrow the age demographic to whatever you want. I’d consider “children” to be a general age demographic, but if you want to split it up, that’s fair. \nUntil your response, I didn’t think you were referring to their age, but other points of their demographic profile (SES, culture, location, etc).", ">\n\nI’m sorry, I misunderstood! You are right in thinking I wasn’t referring to their age, btw. I agree they all fit an age demographic, but that’s hardly relevant compared to the social statuses Dahl has created for them.", ">\n\nIt's also incredibly convenient that Wonka's creepy-looking henchman was at the right time and place when all of them were discovered. Almost as if they were planted.", ">\n\nWell there was nothing \"incredibly convenient\" about the winners being English speakers. That was about 99% of the UK at the time.", ">\n\nBecause the only place willy wonkas factory shipped to was within the United Kingdoms borders?", ">\n\nExcept in the film (never read the book) it was implied Wonka’s chocolates shipped out all over the world. I mean, Augustus Gloop was Austrian/German.\nBut yeah, the fact that it was all children who got it would be statistically improbable.", ">\n\nMeh, more kids buy candy than adults, and every year there are more kids than adults.", ">\n\nRight, but the candy wasn’t the main prize. You got a lifetime supply of chocolate which could be sold hand over fist, which I’m sure plenty of adults considered in their quest to find the golden tickets. And plus an exclusive tour of the world’s most mysterious and profitable candy company would almost truly be a once in a lifetime event, and you’re telling me some rich celebrity wouldn’t swoop in and offer any one of those children $10mil cash for the golden ticket, just to have the prestige of going to Wonka’s factory? Just doesn’t add up.", ">\n\nTrue", ">\n\nHappy Cake Day, Jan", ">\n\nHappy what?", ">\n\nIt’s your cake day. Hence the little cake icon next to your username.", ">\n\nIt's because the thing was rigged from the start. Willy Wonka had no children of his own, so he was specifically looking for an heir to take over his empire.", ">\n\nAnd a few to murder.", ">\n\nAs you do", ">\n\nAs is tradition", ">\n\nAs You Were - LG", ">\n\nConsidering the children were all horrible can you think of the uproar on what nationality gets what arsehole behaviour.", ">\n\nI got the impression that Wonka had pretty elaborate plans for the kids, and selected them specifically to teach them lessons?", ">\n\nExactly. He chose Charlie, it was just the final test.", ">\n\nIn the gene wilder version, the candy store salesman admits he was hiding Wonka bars while they were auctioning for extreme prices. Why would a man in the business of selling candy for profit do that? Then, it's not until charlie says he wants to buy something for his grandfather that the candy seller chooses the type of bar for him, and that bar has the golden ticket. \nHe knew he had it, and was intentionally holding it for somebody who wasn't buying for themselves.", ">\n\nCharlie & the chocolate factory Lore", ">\n\nReminds me of how in Boruto, the main ladies of Naruto took a collective pregnancy pact to birth children in the same year.", ">\n\nWhat the fuck", ">\n\nThat's not literally what happened.\nThe naruto cast just had children in the same class at the start of boruto. Which makes kind of sense because Naruto ends with a giant war and those make people have children historically but it's also obviously to have a story in which all the original characters are involved through their children.\nBut it's also so obviously contrived that people joke they all made a pact to get pregnant at the same time because otherwise it's too convenient that they all have children at close to the same age.", ">\n\nThe kids of Boruto are literal baby boomers", ">\n\nThe book is set in 1960s England… What else would they speak?", ">\n\nAre you implying minorities didn't exist back in the 60s? Especially after the war?", ">\n\nNo, they're implying that in a book written in English and probably set in either England or America, the characters all speaking English is not at all surprising.", ">\n\nYou're completely missing out on OP's point by trying to be a contrarian", ">\n\nNo, I'm pointing out that it's a children's book that was written in English and set in a country where English is by far the most commonly spoken language. So the fact that the main characters are mostly children who speak English is not surprising at all. Disagreeing is not the same as being contrarian.", ">\n\nYou are missing out on OP's point", ">\n\nPlease do tell, o enlightened one! What point am I missing exactly?", ">\n\nOr maybe they just didn’t ship the golden ticket chocolate bars to other countries… \nI doubt there we’re many people living in England who speak no English back in those days", ">\n\nAugustus Gloop was German, though? I mean, maybe he was a German immigrant who moved to England, but I was always under the impression that he lived in Germany based on his and his parents' accents.", ">\n\nAnd I thought Mike was the American. What with all the cowboy gear. Could be from anywhere I guess.", ">\n\nYou are seeking logic in a movie where a piece of gum turns a girl into a blueberry… let that sink in", ">\n\n\"I do say, that song & dance all seemed a bit rehearsed!\" (Best line from the remake.)", ">\n\nTLDW - \nBetween 12% and 24%\nThe range is caused when the definition of “white person/English speaking” is changed", ">\n\nI'll bet when you consider that globalization want a thing in the 1920s and you eliminate basically all of Asia, Africa, and South America considering an American candy company's distribution network. The British kid was from a wealthy family who spent insane amounts of money to find a ticket. \nThe the German kid is the most odd to me. How popular has American chocolate ever been in Germany? I'm guessing that is not very popular and that since his family only seemed relatively well off, a trip to America may have been a prohibitive expense due nothing more than a candy factory tour.\nEdit: TIL that the story took place in England (definitely at the forefront of globalization, even in the 1920s). So, that pretty much destroys the logic of my argument.", ">\n\nKid was also a chubster who inhaled sweets like air.", ">\n\nTo be fair English speaking countries tend to be richer therefore more kids there will buy more chocolate and therefore are more likely to get the tickets (Eg. Veruca buying hundreds of chocolates will give her a higher probability of landing a golden ticket than Charlie who can only afford one). \nBut yeah the fact that they’re children makes it rigged. Like I’m sure a teenager or even an adult would’ve gotten one because they bought chocolates too not just the kids.", ">\n\nWhat's strange is that one of those children wasn't an English speaker in real life and just learned the few lives he had to say in English without actually understanding everything.", ">\n\nI mean, it's a good way to murder your kids for insurance money and have a good alibi.", ">\n\nNot that convenient as britan is a white English speaking country it would be weird if it was different is what you meant to say 🤔", ">\n\nGrandpa Joe didn't get out of bed for 20 years. He let everyone take care of him. He decided he could walk again to see Wankas chocolate factory.", ">\n\nI still remember:\nteacher \"And all they had to eat every day was spinach\"\ngirl sitting on floor \"But I dont like spinach\"\nteacher looks down from book \"Then you would die.\"\nclass shocked picachu face\nme, in the back, cant hold back the laughter\nkid next to me looks over, What's your problem? written on his fucking kid face\ni cant speak... only laugh/cry", ">\n\nDidn't the film theory guy on YT calculate the odds of that happening?", ">\n\nAugustus Gloop wasn’t English. He was German. Don’t think he talked English at all.", ">\n\nIt's as convenient in England during that time period as it would be today if in Mexico they had something, and all the winners spoke Spanish. In other words, it's not suspiciously convenient at all.", ">\n\nThats all depends on where wonka sells his chocolate bars right?", ">\n\nSo you can suspend disbelief long enough to accept a factory with a chocolate river and candy plants but all the kids who found tickets speak the same language is just too much..", ">\n\nOf all the unreasonable events related to that story, you found the least one.", ">\n\nAugustus Gloop was from Germany.\nMike Teevee was from the USA.", ">\n\nI mean, it was America in the 1920s ... not a real inclusive time period. Not a lot of globalization going on in the 1920s, in America.\nEdit: 1920s England it seems ... so a fair bit more globalization than I'd assumed", ">\n\nPlenty of black people though.\nEdit: got those who can’t be bothered reading the stupid Reddit argument below, Charlie was originally written as black, and his family was dirt poor.", ">\n\nWhat do you think that the black population in the US (or any country that a British candy maker would have exported to in the 1920s for that matter) was in the 1920s?", ">\n\nAbout 10,000,000, according to Wikipedia.", ">\n\nSounds right ... a little less than 10% of the population.\nAnd how; do you think, many were in a socioeconomic position to spend money on imported European chocolate.", ">\n\nWhy don’t you answer your own question? I was responding to your point about the lack of “globalization” in the US, not about purchasing power of black Americans in 1920.", ">\n\nNo, you're were taking a position to insinuate that I was taking a position. So that you could seem or just feel superior in the \"great virtue\" that comes with micro-focusing on meaningless and disjointed facts out of context on your socials, because no one usually objects or bothers to call you out on your bullshit. \nMy next point would've been about how familiar with the black experience in 1920s America, do you think that Roald Dahl (a British writer in the 1960s) was, to be able to confidently include that in his book.", ">\n\npaywall", ">\n\nYour point is taken, but it was four kids of the same age, and one peanut-sheller trying to keep a terrible job.", ">\n\nThey weren't all found by kids, one of them had their father buy up all the stock and have his factory open them all and get a ticket, Agustus was eating loads of chocolate anyway, so his was a high chance relative to others. Except for charlie, they had systems in place to find them. Maybe Mike as well. But the film doesn't show that,", ">\n\nConvenient or just common sense? Look at the demographics of the time, things make sense when you use logic.", ">\n\nMy Chinese mum held onto dried plumbs for 6 months when she was a kid. That’s how deprived of decent sweets China was in the 70’s", ">\n\nThe Oompah Lumpah uprising will spare none of the bourgeoisie.", ">\n\nIf you ask that monster grandpa Joe, he would disagree. And crop dust you with cabbage farts as he waltzed away.", ">\n\nOompa loompas are just for show. Behind the colourful fake factory, the real factory is dark, damp, cold, and staffed by migrant children", ">\n\nIn the original book, Oompa Loompas were explicitly described as dark-skinned African pygmies who insisted on wearing their native clothing of skins and leaves- and the kids went naked. \nHe found them in their native country being preyed upon constantly by \"Whangdoodles, the Hornswogglers, and the Snozzwangers\" and offered to take them to live in his factory and they were happy to be paid in cacao beans.\nWilly Wonka is in a TON of legal trouble. Massive immigration and labor law violations, arguably slavery, is only the start. Child endangerment, manslaughter/negligent homicide, unsafe food handling practices, environmental pollution, and running illegal sweepstakes. \nPlus, seeing how the factory is a huge toxic pit of civil and criminal legal entanglements, he tries to just give his illegal sweatshop away to a random kid in an attempt to walk away from it and leave Charlie responsible for the consequences- which, legally, won't work", ">\n\nDid Augustus even speak? I remember his mom had a super thick accent.", ">\n\nHe did, but it was minimal dialogue. I think he offers Charlie some chocolate and makes a comment about eating more candy", ">\n\nIt's the same premise behind all the aliens invading Earth on Doctor Who starting with the UK.", ">\n\nI always thought it was strange that they were all conveniently found before the date on the ticket. Charlie's was found just the day before.", ">\n\nThey were all from countries where speaking English is very commonplace", ">\n\nIt’s like the McDonalds Monopoly game, it was rigged from the start.", ">\n\nI mean… he was the one who sent them out, he could’ve only sent the 5 to certain stores, or paid the owners of those store to specifically hand them to the people who got them, or any number of other things. We have no clue how deep wokna’s plan goes", ">\n\nIt's part of the story, the kids aside from Charlie all got there tickets by unfairly playing the system.", ">\n\nIt was an American company, I imagine its products were more distributed in America, and then to a lesser extent in Europe, then even less in other places. Sure enough, only two were non-Americans, and they were both from Europe.", ">\n\nDon't ask too many questions or the oompa loompas will pay you a visit", ">\n\nThat's the point, most of the kids were rich, and bought their way to a golden ticket.", ">\n\nAnd all with the ability to afford transportation to the factory, or be within walking distance.", ">\n\nidk them being all english speaking isnt that unlikely idk if they said if the contest was worldwide or not but them all being kids is kind of convenient maybe it was wonka magic 🤷🏼‍♀️" ]

[ "This is a friendly reminder to read our rules.\nRemember, /r/Showerthoughts is for showerthoughts, not \"thoughts had in the shower!\"\n(For an explanation of what a \"showerthought\" is, please read this page.)\nRule-breaking posts may result in bans.", ">\n\nI mean, one of them was German, and other than that it appeared to be a mix of British and American kids.", ">\n\nExactly. Put some respect on our bilingual king Augustus Gloop’s name OP! 🍫🇩🇪", ">\n\nFun fact! Did you know the actress who played his mother (Save some room for later!) was in a porn right around that time?", ">\n\nI didn't believe you, so I checked. This appears to be true!", ">\n\nI mean Michael Scott tried this and all the tickets went to the same company.", ">\n\nOmg maybe that episode was really just to shine light on the fact that there is a reason that all the tickets wound up going to the same demographic", ">\n\nNot really sure I’d consider Charlie Bucket and Veruca Salt as the same demographic.", ">\n\nPresumably old mate got confused between demographic and age bracket", ">\n\nAge is a demographic btw", ">\n\nOk. In the story, only Augustus Gloop and Mike Teavee are the same age (9), everyone else is a different age.\nBut why is it surprising that the main characters of a Roald Dahl Story are children? That’s kind of the point of all his children’s novels. \nThere is also almost always an element of magic, or at least the unexplained-possibly-paranormal in his books. In the novel, adults around the world searched like crazy for those tickets, but of course Wonka knows children will be the recipients because his factory, and indeed his candies, are made for children, and their imaginations. The tickets themselves were intended for children, never an adult.\nThe real convenience of it all lies in the the book being written for a target audience, and that audience is children… therefore, characters they relate to.", ">\n\nI wasn’t inherently disagreeing with you (I was responding to the person above who assumed you didn’t think age is a demographic), you can narrow the age demographic to whatever you want. I’d consider “children” to be a general age demographic, but if you want to split it up, that’s fair. \nUntil your response, I didn’t think you were referring to their age, but other points of their demographic profile (SES, culture, location, etc).", ">\n\nI’m sorry, I misunderstood! You are right in thinking I wasn’t referring to their age, btw. I agree they all fit an age demographic, but that’s hardly relevant compared to the social statuses Dahl has created for them.", ">\n\nIt's also incredibly convenient that Wonka's creepy-looking henchman was at the right time and place when all of them were discovered. Almost as if they were planted.", ">\n\nWell there was nothing \"incredibly convenient\" about the winners being English speakers. That was about 99% of the UK at the time.", ">\n\nBecause the only place willy wonkas factory shipped to was within the United Kingdoms borders?", ">\n\nExcept in the film (never read the book) it was implied Wonka’s chocolates shipped out all over the world. I mean, Augustus Gloop was Austrian/German.\nBut yeah, the fact that it was all children who got it would be statistically improbable.", ">\n\nMeh, more kids buy candy than adults, and every year there are more kids than adults.", ">\n\nRight, but the candy wasn’t the main prize. You got a lifetime supply of chocolate which could be sold hand over fist, which I’m sure plenty of adults considered in their quest to find the golden tickets. And plus an exclusive tour of the world’s most mysterious and profitable candy company would almost truly be a once in a lifetime event, and you’re telling me some rich celebrity wouldn’t swoop in and offer any one of those children $10mil cash for the golden ticket, just to have the prestige of going to Wonka’s factory? Just doesn’t add up.", ">\n\nTrue", ">\n\nHappy Cake Day, Jan", ">\n\nHappy what?", ">\n\nIt’s your cake day. Hence the little cake icon next to your username.", ">\n\nIt's because the thing was rigged from the start. Willy Wonka had no children of his own, so he was specifically looking for an heir to take over his empire.", ">\n\nAnd a few to murder.", ">\n\nAs you do", ">\n\nAs is tradition", ">\n\nAs You Were - LG", ">\n\nConsidering the children were all horrible can you think of the uproar on what nationality gets what arsehole behaviour.", ">\n\nI got the impression that Wonka had pretty elaborate plans for the kids, and selected them specifically to teach them lessons?", ">\n\nExactly. He chose Charlie, it was just the final test.", ">\n\nIn the gene wilder version, the candy store salesman admits he was hiding Wonka bars while they were auctioning for extreme prices. Why would a man in the business of selling candy for profit do that? Then, it's not until charlie says he wants to buy something for his grandfather that the candy seller chooses the type of bar for him, and that bar has the golden ticket. \nHe knew he had it, and was intentionally holding it for somebody who wasn't buying for themselves.", ">\n\nCharlie & the chocolate factory Lore", ">\n\nReminds me of how in Boruto, the main ladies of Naruto took a collective pregnancy pact to birth children in the same year.", ">\n\nWhat the fuck", ">\n\nThat's not literally what happened.\nThe naruto cast just had children in the same class at the start of boruto. Which makes kind of sense because Naruto ends with a giant war and those make people have children historically but it's also obviously to have a story in which all the original characters are involved through their children.\nBut it's also so obviously contrived that people joke they all made a pact to get pregnant at the same time because otherwise it's too convenient that they all have children at close to the same age.", ">\n\nThe kids of Boruto are literal baby boomers", ">\n\nThe book is set in 1960s England… What else would they speak?", ">\n\nAre you implying minorities didn't exist back in the 60s? Especially after the war?", ">\n\nNo, they're implying that in a book written in English and probably set in either England or America, the characters all speaking English is not at all surprising.", ">\n\nYou're completely missing out on OP's point by trying to be a contrarian", ">\n\nNo, I'm pointing out that it's a children's book that was written in English and set in a country where English is by far the most commonly spoken language. So the fact that the main characters are mostly children who speak English is not surprising at all. Disagreeing is not the same as being contrarian.", ">\n\nYou are missing out on OP's point", ">\n\nPlease do tell, o enlightened one! What point am I missing exactly?", ">\n\nOr maybe they just didn’t ship the golden ticket chocolate bars to other countries… \nI doubt there we’re many people living in England who speak no English back in those days", ">\n\nAugustus Gloop was German, though? I mean, maybe he was a German immigrant who moved to England, but I was always under the impression that he lived in Germany based on his and his parents' accents.", ">\n\nAnd I thought Mike was the American. What with all the cowboy gear. Could be from anywhere I guess.", ">\n\nYou are seeking logic in a movie where a piece of gum turns a girl into a blueberry… let that sink in", ">\n\n\"I do say, that song & dance all seemed a bit rehearsed!\" (Best line from the remake.)", ">\n\nTLDW - \nBetween 12% and 24%\nThe range is caused when the definition of “white person/English speaking” is changed", ">\n\nI'll bet when you consider that globalization want a thing in the 1920s and you eliminate basically all of Asia, Africa, and South America considering an American candy company's distribution network. The British kid was from a wealthy family who spent insane amounts of money to find a ticket. \nThe the German kid is the most odd to me. How popular has American chocolate ever been in Germany? I'm guessing that is not very popular and that since his family only seemed relatively well off, a trip to America may have been a prohibitive expense due nothing more than a candy factory tour.\nEdit: TIL that the story took place in England (definitely at the forefront of globalization, even in the 1920s). So, that pretty much destroys the logic of my argument.", ">\n\nKid was also a chubster who inhaled sweets like air.", ">\n\nTo be fair English speaking countries tend to be richer therefore more kids there will buy more chocolate and therefore are more likely to get the tickets (Eg. Veruca buying hundreds of chocolates will give her a higher probability of landing a golden ticket than Charlie who can only afford one). \nBut yeah the fact that they’re children makes it rigged. Like I’m sure a teenager or even an adult would’ve gotten one because they bought chocolates too not just the kids.", ">\n\nWhat's strange is that one of those children wasn't an English speaker in real life and just learned the few lives he had to say in English without actually understanding everything.", ">\n\nI mean, it's a good way to murder your kids for insurance money and have a good alibi.", ">\n\nNot that convenient as britan is a white English speaking country it would be weird if it was different is what you meant to say 🤔", ">\n\nGrandpa Joe didn't get out of bed for 20 years. He let everyone take care of him. He decided he could walk again to see Wankas chocolate factory.", ">\n\nI still remember:\nteacher \"And all they had to eat every day was spinach\"\ngirl sitting on floor \"But I dont like spinach\"\nteacher looks down from book \"Then you would die.\"\nclass shocked picachu face\nme, in the back, cant hold back the laughter\nkid next to me looks over, What's your problem? written on his fucking kid face\ni cant speak... only laugh/cry", ">\n\nDidn't the film theory guy on YT calculate the odds of that happening?", ">\n\nAugustus Gloop wasn’t English. He was German. Don’t think he talked English at all.", ">\n\nIt's as convenient in England during that time period as it would be today if in Mexico they had something, and all the winners spoke Spanish. In other words, it's not suspiciously convenient at all.", ">\n\nThats all depends on where wonka sells his chocolate bars right?", ">\n\nSo you can suspend disbelief long enough to accept a factory with a chocolate river and candy plants but all the kids who found tickets speak the same language is just too much..", ">\n\nOf all the unreasonable events related to that story, you found the least one.", ">\n\nAugustus Gloop was from Germany.\nMike Teevee was from the USA.", ">\n\nI mean, it was America in the 1920s ... not a real inclusive time period. Not a lot of globalization going on in the 1920s, in America.\nEdit: 1920s England it seems ... so a fair bit more globalization than I'd assumed", ">\n\nPlenty of black people though.\nEdit: got those who can’t be bothered reading the stupid Reddit argument below, Charlie was originally written as black, and his family was dirt poor.", ">\n\nWhat do you think that the black population in the US (or any country that a British candy maker would have exported to in the 1920s for that matter) was in the 1920s?", ">\n\nAbout 10,000,000, according to Wikipedia.", ">\n\nSounds right ... a little less than 10% of the population.\nAnd how; do you think, many were in a socioeconomic position to spend money on imported European chocolate.", ">\n\nWhy don’t you answer your own question? I was responding to your point about the lack of “globalization” in the US, not about purchasing power of black Americans in 1920.", ">\n\nNo, you're were taking a position to insinuate that I was taking a position. So that you could seem or just feel superior in the \"great virtue\" that comes with micro-focusing on meaningless and disjointed facts out of context on your socials, because no one usually objects or bothers to call you out on your bullshit. \nMy next point would've been about how familiar with the black experience in 1920s America, do you think that Roald Dahl (a British writer in the 1960s) was, to be able to confidently include that in his book.", ">\n\npaywall", ">\n\nYour point is taken, but it was four kids of the same age, and one peanut-sheller trying to keep a terrible job.", ">\n\nThey weren't all found by kids, one of them had their father buy up all the stock and have his factory open them all and get a ticket, Agustus was eating loads of chocolate anyway, so his was a high chance relative to others. Except for charlie, they had systems in place to find them. Maybe Mike as well. But the film doesn't show that,", ">\n\nConvenient or just common sense? Look at the demographics of the time, things make sense when you use logic.", ">\n\nMy Chinese mum held onto dried plumbs for 6 months when she was a kid. That’s how deprived of decent sweets China was in the 70’s", ">\n\nThe Oompah Lumpah uprising will spare none of the bourgeoisie.", ">\n\nIf you ask that monster grandpa Joe, he would disagree. And crop dust you with cabbage farts as he waltzed away.", ">\n\nOompa loompas are just for show. Behind the colourful fake factory, the real factory is dark, damp, cold, and staffed by migrant children", ">\n\nIn the original book, Oompa Loompas were explicitly described as dark-skinned African pygmies who insisted on wearing their native clothing of skins and leaves- and the kids went naked. \nHe found them in their native country being preyed upon constantly by \"Whangdoodles, the Hornswogglers, and the Snozzwangers\" and offered to take them to live in his factory and they were happy to be paid in cacao beans.\nWilly Wonka is in a TON of legal trouble. Massive immigration and labor law violations, arguably slavery, is only the start. Child endangerment, manslaughter/negligent homicide, unsafe food handling practices, environmental pollution, and running illegal sweepstakes. \nPlus, seeing how the factory is a huge toxic pit of civil and criminal legal entanglements, he tries to just give his illegal sweatshop away to a random kid in an attempt to walk away from it and leave Charlie responsible for the consequences- which, legally, won't work", ">\n\nDid Augustus even speak? I remember his mom had a super thick accent.", ">\n\nHe did, but it was minimal dialogue. I think he offers Charlie some chocolate and makes a comment about eating more candy", ">\n\nIt's the same premise behind all the aliens invading Earth on Doctor Who starting with the UK.", ">\n\nI always thought it was strange that they were all conveniently found before the date on the ticket. Charlie's was found just the day before.", ">\n\nThey were all from countries where speaking English is very commonplace", ">\n\nIt’s like the McDonalds Monopoly game, it was rigged from the start.", ">\n\nI mean… he was the one who sent them out, he could’ve only sent the 5 to certain stores, or paid the owners of those store to specifically hand them to the people who got them, or any number of other things. We have no clue how deep wokna’s plan goes", ">\n\nIt's part of the story, the kids aside from Charlie all got there tickets by unfairly playing the system.", ">\n\nIt was an American company, I imagine its products were more distributed in America, and then to a lesser extent in Europe, then even less in other places. Sure enough, only two were non-Americans, and they were both from Europe.", ">\n\nDon't ask too many questions or the oompa loompas will pay you a visit", ">\n\nThat's the point, most of the kids were rich, and bought their way to a golden ticket.", ">\n\nAnd all with the ability to afford transportation to the factory, or be within walking distance.", ">\n\nidk them being all english speaking isnt that unlikely idk if they said if the contest was worldwide or not but them all being kids is kind of convenient maybe it was wonka magic 🤷🏼‍♀️", ">\n\none's german and one (possibly two, not sure what nationality Veruca is supposed to be?) is American." ]

[ "This is a friendly reminder to read our rules.\nRemember, /r/Showerthoughts is for showerthoughts, not \"thoughts had in the shower!\"\n(For an explanation of what a \"showerthought\" is, please read this page.)\nRule-breaking posts may result in bans.", ">\n\nI mean, one of them was German, and other than that it appeared to be a mix of British and American kids.", ">\n\nExactly. Put some respect on our bilingual king Augustus Gloop’s name OP! 🍫🇩🇪", ">\n\nFun fact! Did you know the actress who played his mother (Save some room for later!) was in a porn right around that time?", ">\n\nI didn't believe you, so I checked. This appears to be true!", ">\n\nI mean Michael Scott tried this and all the tickets went to the same company.", ">\n\nOmg maybe that episode was really just to shine light on the fact that there is a reason that all the tickets wound up going to the same demographic", ">\n\nNot really sure I’d consider Charlie Bucket and Veruca Salt as the same demographic.", ">\n\nPresumably old mate got confused between demographic and age bracket", ">\n\nAge is a demographic btw", ">\n\nOk. In the story, only Augustus Gloop and Mike Teavee are the same age (9), everyone else is a different age.\nBut why is it surprising that the main characters of a Roald Dahl Story are children? That’s kind of the point of all his children’s novels. \nThere is also almost always an element of magic, or at least the unexplained-possibly-paranormal in his books. In the novel, adults around the world searched like crazy for those tickets, but of course Wonka knows children will be the recipients because his factory, and indeed his candies, are made for children, and their imaginations. The tickets themselves were intended for children, never an adult.\nThe real convenience of it all lies in the the book being written for a target audience, and that audience is children… therefore, characters they relate to.", ">\n\nI wasn’t inherently disagreeing with you (I was responding to the person above who assumed you didn’t think age is a demographic), you can narrow the age demographic to whatever you want. I’d consider “children” to be a general age demographic, but if you want to split it up, that’s fair. \nUntil your response, I didn’t think you were referring to their age, but other points of their demographic profile (SES, culture, location, etc).", ">\n\nI’m sorry, I misunderstood! You are right in thinking I wasn’t referring to their age, btw. I agree they all fit an age demographic, but that’s hardly relevant compared to the social statuses Dahl has created for them.", ">\n\nIt's also incredibly convenient that Wonka's creepy-looking henchman was at the right time and place when all of them were discovered. Almost as if they were planted.", ">\n\nWell there was nothing \"incredibly convenient\" about the winners being English speakers. That was about 99% of the UK at the time.", ">\n\nBecause the only place willy wonkas factory shipped to was within the United Kingdoms borders?", ">\n\nExcept in the film (never read the book) it was implied Wonka’s chocolates shipped out all over the world. I mean, Augustus Gloop was Austrian/German.\nBut yeah, the fact that it was all children who got it would be statistically improbable.", ">\n\nMeh, more kids buy candy than adults, and every year there are more kids than adults.", ">\n\nRight, but the candy wasn’t the main prize. You got a lifetime supply of chocolate which could be sold hand over fist, which I’m sure plenty of adults considered in their quest to find the golden tickets. And plus an exclusive tour of the world’s most mysterious and profitable candy company would almost truly be a once in a lifetime event, and you’re telling me some rich celebrity wouldn’t swoop in and offer any one of those children $10mil cash for the golden ticket, just to have the prestige of going to Wonka’s factory? Just doesn’t add up.", ">\n\nTrue", ">\n\nHappy Cake Day, Jan", ">\n\nHappy what?", ">\n\nIt’s your cake day. Hence the little cake icon next to your username.", ">\n\nIt's because the thing was rigged from the start. Willy Wonka had no children of his own, so he was specifically looking for an heir to take over his empire.", ">\n\nAnd a few to murder.", ">\n\nAs you do", ">\n\nAs is tradition", ">\n\nAs You Were - LG", ">\n\nConsidering the children were all horrible can you think of the uproar on what nationality gets what arsehole behaviour.", ">\n\nI got the impression that Wonka had pretty elaborate plans for the kids, and selected them specifically to teach them lessons?", ">\n\nExactly. He chose Charlie, it was just the final test.", ">\n\nIn the gene wilder version, the candy store salesman admits he was hiding Wonka bars while they were auctioning for extreme prices. Why would a man in the business of selling candy for profit do that? Then, it's not until charlie says he wants to buy something for his grandfather that the candy seller chooses the type of bar for him, and that bar has the golden ticket. \nHe knew he had it, and was intentionally holding it for somebody who wasn't buying for themselves.", ">\n\nCharlie & the chocolate factory Lore", ">\n\nReminds me of how in Boruto, the main ladies of Naruto took a collective pregnancy pact to birth children in the same year.", ">\n\nWhat the fuck", ">\n\nThat's not literally what happened.\nThe naruto cast just had children in the same class at the start of boruto. Which makes kind of sense because Naruto ends with a giant war and those make people have children historically but it's also obviously to have a story in which all the original characters are involved through their children.\nBut it's also so obviously contrived that people joke they all made a pact to get pregnant at the same time because otherwise it's too convenient that they all have children at close to the same age.", ">\n\nThe kids of Boruto are literal baby boomers", ">\n\nThe book is set in 1960s England… What else would they speak?", ">\n\nAre you implying minorities didn't exist back in the 60s? Especially after the war?", ">\n\nNo, they're implying that in a book written in English and probably set in either England or America, the characters all speaking English is not at all surprising.", ">\n\nYou're completely missing out on OP's point by trying to be a contrarian", ">\n\nNo, I'm pointing out that it's a children's book that was written in English and set in a country where English is by far the most commonly spoken language. So the fact that the main characters are mostly children who speak English is not surprising at all. Disagreeing is not the same as being contrarian.", ">\n\nYou are missing out on OP's point", ">\n\nPlease do tell, o enlightened one! What point am I missing exactly?", ">\n\nOr maybe they just didn’t ship the golden ticket chocolate bars to other countries… \nI doubt there we’re many people living in England who speak no English back in those days", ">\n\nAugustus Gloop was German, though? I mean, maybe he was a German immigrant who moved to England, but I was always under the impression that he lived in Germany based on his and his parents' accents.", ">\n\nAnd I thought Mike was the American. What with all the cowboy gear. Could be from anywhere I guess.", ">\n\nYou are seeking logic in a movie where a piece of gum turns a girl into a blueberry… let that sink in", ">\n\n\"I do say, that song & dance all seemed a bit rehearsed!\" (Best line from the remake.)", ">\n\nTLDW - \nBetween 12% and 24%\nThe range is caused when the definition of “white person/English speaking” is changed", ">\n\nI'll bet when you consider that globalization want a thing in the 1920s and you eliminate basically all of Asia, Africa, and South America considering an American candy company's distribution network. The British kid was from a wealthy family who spent insane amounts of money to find a ticket. \nThe the German kid is the most odd to me. How popular has American chocolate ever been in Germany? I'm guessing that is not very popular and that since his family only seemed relatively well off, a trip to America may have been a prohibitive expense due nothing more than a candy factory tour.\nEdit: TIL that the story took place in England (definitely at the forefront of globalization, even in the 1920s). So, that pretty much destroys the logic of my argument.", ">\n\nKid was also a chubster who inhaled sweets like air.", ">\n\nTo be fair English speaking countries tend to be richer therefore more kids there will buy more chocolate and therefore are more likely to get the tickets (Eg. Veruca buying hundreds of chocolates will give her a higher probability of landing a golden ticket than Charlie who can only afford one). \nBut yeah the fact that they’re children makes it rigged. Like I’m sure a teenager or even an adult would’ve gotten one because they bought chocolates too not just the kids.", ">\n\nWhat's strange is that one of those children wasn't an English speaker in real life and just learned the few lives he had to say in English without actually understanding everything.", ">\n\nI mean, it's a good way to murder your kids for insurance money and have a good alibi.", ">\n\nNot that convenient as britan is a white English speaking country it would be weird if it was different is what you meant to say 🤔", ">\n\nGrandpa Joe didn't get out of bed for 20 years. He let everyone take care of him. He decided he could walk again to see Wankas chocolate factory.", ">\n\nI still remember:\nteacher \"And all they had to eat every day was spinach\"\ngirl sitting on floor \"But I dont like spinach\"\nteacher looks down from book \"Then you would die.\"\nclass shocked picachu face\nme, in the back, cant hold back the laughter\nkid next to me looks over, What's your problem? written on his fucking kid face\ni cant speak... only laugh/cry", ">\n\nDidn't the film theory guy on YT calculate the odds of that happening?", ">\n\nAugustus Gloop wasn’t English. He was German. Don’t think he talked English at all.", ">\n\nIt's as convenient in England during that time period as it would be today if in Mexico they had something, and all the winners spoke Spanish. In other words, it's not suspiciously convenient at all.", ">\n\nThats all depends on where wonka sells his chocolate bars right?", ">\n\nSo you can suspend disbelief long enough to accept a factory with a chocolate river and candy plants but all the kids who found tickets speak the same language is just too much..", ">\n\nOf all the unreasonable events related to that story, you found the least one.", ">\n\nAugustus Gloop was from Germany.\nMike Teevee was from the USA.", ">\n\nI mean, it was America in the 1920s ... not a real inclusive time period. Not a lot of globalization going on in the 1920s, in America.\nEdit: 1920s England it seems ... so a fair bit more globalization than I'd assumed", ">\n\nPlenty of black people though.\nEdit: got those who can’t be bothered reading the stupid Reddit argument below, Charlie was originally written as black, and his family was dirt poor.", ">\n\nWhat do you think that the black population in the US (or any country that a British candy maker would have exported to in the 1920s for that matter) was in the 1920s?", ">\n\nAbout 10,000,000, according to Wikipedia.", ">\n\nSounds right ... a little less than 10% of the population.\nAnd how; do you think, many were in a socioeconomic position to spend money on imported European chocolate.", ">\n\nWhy don’t you answer your own question? I was responding to your point about the lack of “globalization” in the US, not about purchasing power of black Americans in 1920.", ">\n\nNo, you're were taking a position to insinuate that I was taking a position. So that you could seem or just feel superior in the \"great virtue\" that comes with micro-focusing on meaningless and disjointed facts out of context on your socials, because no one usually objects or bothers to call you out on your bullshit. \nMy next point would've been about how familiar with the black experience in 1920s America, do you think that Roald Dahl (a British writer in the 1960s) was, to be able to confidently include that in his book.", ">\n\npaywall", ">\n\nYour point is taken, but it was four kids of the same age, and one peanut-sheller trying to keep a terrible job.", ">\n\nThey weren't all found by kids, one of them had their father buy up all the stock and have his factory open them all and get a ticket, Agustus was eating loads of chocolate anyway, so his was a high chance relative to others. Except for charlie, they had systems in place to find them. Maybe Mike as well. But the film doesn't show that,", ">\n\nConvenient or just common sense? Look at the demographics of the time, things make sense when you use logic.", ">\n\nMy Chinese mum held onto dried plumbs for 6 months when she was a kid. That’s how deprived of decent sweets China was in the 70’s", ">\n\nThe Oompah Lumpah uprising will spare none of the bourgeoisie.", ">\n\nIf you ask that monster grandpa Joe, he would disagree. And crop dust you with cabbage farts as he waltzed away.", ">\n\nOompa loompas are just for show. Behind the colourful fake factory, the real factory is dark, damp, cold, and staffed by migrant children", ">\n\nIn the original book, Oompa Loompas were explicitly described as dark-skinned African pygmies who insisted on wearing their native clothing of skins and leaves- and the kids went naked. \nHe found them in their native country being preyed upon constantly by \"Whangdoodles, the Hornswogglers, and the Snozzwangers\" and offered to take them to live in his factory and they were happy to be paid in cacao beans.\nWilly Wonka is in a TON of legal trouble. Massive immigration and labor law violations, arguably slavery, is only the start. Child endangerment, manslaughter/negligent homicide, unsafe food handling practices, environmental pollution, and running illegal sweepstakes. \nPlus, seeing how the factory is a huge toxic pit of civil and criminal legal entanglements, he tries to just give his illegal sweatshop away to a random kid in an attempt to walk away from it and leave Charlie responsible for the consequences- which, legally, won't work", ">\n\nDid Augustus even speak? I remember his mom had a super thick accent.", ">\n\nHe did, but it was minimal dialogue. I think he offers Charlie some chocolate and makes a comment about eating more candy", ">\n\nIt's the same premise behind all the aliens invading Earth on Doctor Who starting with the UK.", ">\n\nI always thought it was strange that they were all conveniently found before the date on the ticket. Charlie's was found just the day before.", ">\n\nThey were all from countries where speaking English is very commonplace", ">\n\nIt’s like the McDonalds Monopoly game, it was rigged from the start.", ">\n\nI mean… he was the one who sent them out, he could’ve only sent the 5 to certain stores, or paid the owners of those store to specifically hand them to the people who got them, or any number of other things. We have no clue how deep wokna’s plan goes", ">\n\nIt's part of the story, the kids aside from Charlie all got there tickets by unfairly playing the system.", ">\n\nIt was an American company, I imagine its products were more distributed in America, and then to a lesser extent in Europe, then even less in other places. Sure enough, only two were non-Americans, and they were both from Europe.", ">\n\nDon't ask too many questions or the oompa loompas will pay you a visit", ">\n\nThat's the point, most of the kids were rich, and bought their way to a golden ticket.", ">\n\nAnd all with the ability to afford transportation to the factory, or be within walking distance.", ">\n\nidk them being all english speaking isnt that unlikely idk if they said if the contest was worldwide or not but them all being kids is kind of convenient maybe it was wonka magic 🤷🏼‍♀️", ">\n\none's german and one (possibly two, not sure what nationality Veruca is supposed to be?) is American.", ">\n\nIt's weird that things that happen in stories tend to be convenient." ]

[ "This is a friendly reminder to read our rules.\nRemember, /r/Showerthoughts is for showerthoughts, not \"thoughts had in the shower!\"\n(For an explanation of what a \"showerthought\" is, please read this page.)\nRule-breaking posts may result in bans.", ">\n\nI mean, one of them was German, and other than that it appeared to be a mix of British and American kids.", ">\n\nExactly. Put some respect on our bilingual king Augustus Gloop’s name OP! 🍫🇩🇪", ">\n\nFun fact! Did you know the actress who played his mother (Save some room for later!) was in a porn right around that time?", ">\n\nI didn't believe you, so I checked. This appears to be true!", ">\n\nI mean Michael Scott tried this and all the tickets went to the same company.", ">\n\nOmg maybe that episode was really just to shine light on the fact that there is a reason that all the tickets wound up going to the same demographic", ">\n\nNot really sure I’d consider Charlie Bucket and Veruca Salt as the same demographic.", ">\n\nPresumably old mate got confused between demographic and age bracket", ">\n\nAge is a demographic btw", ">\n\nOk. In the story, only Augustus Gloop and Mike Teavee are the same age (9), everyone else is a different age.\nBut why is it surprising that the main characters of a Roald Dahl Story are children? That’s kind of the point of all his children’s novels. \nThere is also almost always an element of magic, or at least the unexplained-possibly-paranormal in his books. In the novel, adults around the world searched like crazy for those tickets, but of course Wonka knows children will be the recipients because his factory, and indeed his candies, are made for children, and their imaginations. The tickets themselves were intended for children, never an adult.\nThe real convenience of it all lies in the the book being written for a target audience, and that audience is children… therefore, characters they relate to.", ">\n\nI wasn’t inherently disagreeing with you (I was responding to the person above who assumed you didn’t think age is a demographic), you can narrow the age demographic to whatever you want. I’d consider “children” to be a general age demographic, but if you want to split it up, that’s fair. \nUntil your response, I didn’t think you were referring to their age, but other points of their demographic profile (SES, culture, location, etc).", ">\n\nI’m sorry, I misunderstood! You are right in thinking I wasn’t referring to their age, btw. I agree they all fit an age demographic, but that’s hardly relevant compared to the social statuses Dahl has created for them.", ">\n\nIt's also incredibly convenient that Wonka's creepy-looking henchman was at the right time and place when all of them were discovered. Almost as if they were planted.", ">\n\nWell there was nothing \"incredibly convenient\" about the winners being English speakers. That was about 99% of the UK at the time.", ">\n\nBecause the only place willy wonkas factory shipped to was within the United Kingdoms borders?", ">\n\nExcept in the film (never read the book) it was implied Wonka’s chocolates shipped out all over the world. I mean, Augustus Gloop was Austrian/German.\nBut yeah, the fact that it was all children who got it would be statistically improbable.", ">\n\nMeh, more kids buy candy than adults, and every year there are more kids than adults.", ">\n\nRight, but the candy wasn’t the main prize. You got a lifetime supply of chocolate which could be sold hand over fist, which I’m sure plenty of adults considered in their quest to find the golden tickets. And plus an exclusive tour of the world’s most mysterious and profitable candy company would almost truly be a once in a lifetime event, and you’re telling me some rich celebrity wouldn’t swoop in and offer any one of those children $10mil cash for the golden ticket, just to have the prestige of going to Wonka’s factory? Just doesn’t add up.", ">\n\nTrue", ">\n\nHappy Cake Day, Jan", ">\n\nHappy what?", ">\n\nIt’s your cake day. Hence the little cake icon next to your username.", ">\n\nIt's because the thing was rigged from the start. Willy Wonka had no children of his own, so he was specifically looking for an heir to take over his empire.", ">\n\nAnd a few to murder.", ">\n\nAs you do", ">\n\nAs is tradition", ">\n\nAs You Were - LG", ">\n\nConsidering the children were all horrible can you think of the uproar on what nationality gets what arsehole behaviour.", ">\n\nI got the impression that Wonka had pretty elaborate plans for the kids, and selected them specifically to teach them lessons?", ">\n\nExactly. He chose Charlie, it was just the final test.", ">\n\nIn the gene wilder version, the candy store salesman admits he was hiding Wonka bars while they were auctioning for extreme prices. Why would a man in the business of selling candy for profit do that? Then, it's not until charlie says he wants to buy something for his grandfather that the candy seller chooses the type of bar for him, and that bar has the golden ticket. \nHe knew he had it, and was intentionally holding it for somebody who wasn't buying for themselves.", ">\n\nCharlie & the chocolate factory Lore", ">\n\nReminds me of how in Boruto, the main ladies of Naruto took a collective pregnancy pact to birth children in the same year.", ">\n\nWhat the fuck", ">\n\nThat's not literally what happened.\nThe naruto cast just had children in the same class at the start of boruto. Which makes kind of sense because Naruto ends with a giant war and those make people have children historically but it's also obviously to have a story in which all the original characters are involved through their children.\nBut it's also so obviously contrived that people joke they all made a pact to get pregnant at the same time because otherwise it's too convenient that they all have children at close to the same age.", ">\n\nThe kids of Boruto are literal baby boomers", ">\n\nThe book is set in 1960s England… What else would they speak?", ">\n\nAre you implying minorities didn't exist back in the 60s? Especially after the war?", ">\n\nNo, they're implying that in a book written in English and probably set in either England or America, the characters all speaking English is not at all surprising.", ">\n\nYou're completely missing out on OP's point by trying to be a contrarian", ">\n\nNo, I'm pointing out that it's a children's book that was written in English and set in a country where English is by far the most commonly spoken language. So the fact that the main characters are mostly children who speak English is not surprising at all. Disagreeing is not the same as being contrarian.", ">\n\nYou are missing out on OP's point", ">\n\nPlease do tell, o enlightened one! What point am I missing exactly?", ">\n\nOr maybe they just didn’t ship the golden ticket chocolate bars to other countries… \nI doubt there we’re many people living in England who speak no English back in those days", ">\n\nAugustus Gloop was German, though? I mean, maybe he was a German immigrant who moved to England, but I was always under the impression that he lived in Germany based on his and his parents' accents.", ">\n\nAnd I thought Mike was the American. What with all the cowboy gear. Could be from anywhere I guess.", ">\n\nYou are seeking logic in a movie where a piece of gum turns a girl into a blueberry… let that sink in", ">\n\n\"I do say, that song & dance all seemed a bit rehearsed!\" (Best line from the remake.)", ">\n\nTLDW - \nBetween 12% and 24%\nThe range is caused when the definition of “white person/English speaking” is changed", ">\n\nI'll bet when you consider that globalization want a thing in the 1920s and you eliminate basically all of Asia, Africa, and South America considering an American candy company's distribution network. The British kid was from a wealthy family who spent insane amounts of money to find a ticket. \nThe the German kid is the most odd to me. How popular has American chocolate ever been in Germany? I'm guessing that is not very popular and that since his family only seemed relatively well off, a trip to America may have been a prohibitive expense due nothing more than a candy factory tour.\nEdit: TIL that the story took place in England (definitely at the forefront of globalization, even in the 1920s). So, that pretty much destroys the logic of my argument.", ">\n\nKid was also a chubster who inhaled sweets like air.", ">\n\nTo be fair English speaking countries tend to be richer therefore more kids there will buy more chocolate and therefore are more likely to get the tickets (Eg. Veruca buying hundreds of chocolates will give her a higher probability of landing a golden ticket than Charlie who can only afford one). \nBut yeah the fact that they’re children makes it rigged. Like I’m sure a teenager or even an adult would’ve gotten one because they bought chocolates too not just the kids.", ">\n\nWhat's strange is that one of those children wasn't an English speaker in real life and just learned the few lives he had to say in English without actually understanding everything.", ">\n\nI mean, it's a good way to murder your kids for insurance money and have a good alibi.", ">\n\nNot that convenient as britan is a white English speaking country it would be weird if it was different is what you meant to say 🤔", ">\n\nGrandpa Joe didn't get out of bed for 20 years. He let everyone take care of him. He decided he could walk again to see Wankas chocolate factory.", ">\n\nI still remember:\nteacher \"And all they had to eat every day was spinach\"\ngirl sitting on floor \"But I dont like spinach\"\nteacher looks down from book \"Then you would die.\"\nclass shocked picachu face\nme, in the back, cant hold back the laughter\nkid next to me looks over, What's your problem? written on his fucking kid face\ni cant speak... only laugh/cry", ">\n\nDidn't the film theory guy on YT calculate the odds of that happening?", ">\n\nAugustus Gloop wasn’t English. He was German. Don’t think he talked English at all.", ">\n\nIt's as convenient in England during that time period as it would be today if in Mexico they had something, and all the winners spoke Spanish. In other words, it's not suspiciously convenient at all.", ">\n\nThats all depends on where wonka sells his chocolate bars right?", ">\n\nSo you can suspend disbelief long enough to accept a factory with a chocolate river and candy plants but all the kids who found tickets speak the same language is just too much..", ">\n\nOf all the unreasonable events related to that story, you found the least one.", ">\n\nAugustus Gloop was from Germany.\nMike Teevee was from the USA.", ">\n\nI mean, it was America in the 1920s ... not a real inclusive time period. Not a lot of globalization going on in the 1920s, in America.\nEdit: 1920s England it seems ... so a fair bit more globalization than I'd assumed", ">\n\nPlenty of black people though.\nEdit: got those who can’t be bothered reading the stupid Reddit argument below, Charlie was originally written as black, and his family was dirt poor.", ">\n\nWhat do you think that the black population in the US (or any country that a British candy maker would have exported to in the 1920s for that matter) was in the 1920s?", ">\n\nAbout 10,000,000, according to Wikipedia.", ">\n\nSounds right ... a little less than 10% of the population.\nAnd how; do you think, many were in a socioeconomic position to spend money on imported European chocolate.", ">\n\nWhy don’t you answer your own question? I was responding to your point about the lack of “globalization” in the US, not about purchasing power of black Americans in 1920.", ">\n\nNo, you're were taking a position to insinuate that I was taking a position. So that you could seem or just feel superior in the \"great virtue\" that comes with micro-focusing on meaningless and disjointed facts out of context on your socials, because no one usually objects or bothers to call you out on your bullshit. \nMy next point would've been about how familiar with the black experience in 1920s America, do you think that Roald Dahl (a British writer in the 1960s) was, to be able to confidently include that in his book.", ">\n\npaywall", ">\n\nYour point is taken, but it was four kids of the same age, and one peanut-sheller trying to keep a terrible job.", ">\n\nThey weren't all found by kids, one of them had their father buy up all the stock and have his factory open them all and get a ticket, Agustus was eating loads of chocolate anyway, so his was a high chance relative to others. Except for charlie, they had systems in place to find them. Maybe Mike as well. But the film doesn't show that,", ">\n\nConvenient or just common sense? Look at the demographics of the time, things make sense when you use logic.", ">\n\nMy Chinese mum held onto dried plumbs for 6 months when she was a kid. That’s how deprived of decent sweets China was in the 70’s", ">\n\nThe Oompah Lumpah uprising will spare none of the bourgeoisie.", ">\n\nIf you ask that monster grandpa Joe, he would disagree. And crop dust you with cabbage farts as he waltzed away.", ">\n\nOompa loompas are just for show. Behind the colourful fake factory, the real factory is dark, damp, cold, and staffed by migrant children", ">\n\nIn the original book, Oompa Loompas were explicitly described as dark-skinned African pygmies who insisted on wearing their native clothing of skins and leaves- and the kids went naked. \nHe found them in their native country being preyed upon constantly by \"Whangdoodles, the Hornswogglers, and the Snozzwangers\" and offered to take them to live in his factory and they were happy to be paid in cacao beans.\nWilly Wonka is in a TON of legal trouble. Massive immigration and labor law violations, arguably slavery, is only the start. Child endangerment, manslaughter/negligent homicide, unsafe food handling practices, environmental pollution, and running illegal sweepstakes. \nPlus, seeing how the factory is a huge toxic pit of civil and criminal legal entanglements, he tries to just give his illegal sweatshop away to a random kid in an attempt to walk away from it and leave Charlie responsible for the consequences- which, legally, won't work", ">\n\nDid Augustus even speak? I remember his mom had a super thick accent.", ">\n\nHe did, but it was minimal dialogue. I think he offers Charlie some chocolate and makes a comment about eating more candy", ">\n\nIt's the same premise behind all the aliens invading Earth on Doctor Who starting with the UK.", ">\n\nI always thought it was strange that they were all conveniently found before the date on the ticket. Charlie's was found just the day before.", ">\n\nThey were all from countries where speaking English is very commonplace", ">\n\nIt’s like the McDonalds Monopoly game, it was rigged from the start.", ">\n\nI mean… he was the one who sent them out, he could’ve only sent the 5 to certain stores, or paid the owners of those store to specifically hand them to the people who got them, or any number of other things. We have no clue how deep wokna’s plan goes", ">\n\nIt's part of the story, the kids aside from Charlie all got there tickets by unfairly playing the system.", ">\n\nIt was an American company, I imagine its products were more distributed in America, and then to a lesser extent in Europe, then even less in other places. Sure enough, only two were non-Americans, and they were both from Europe.", ">\n\nDon't ask too many questions or the oompa loompas will pay you a visit", ">\n\nThat's the point, most of the kids were rich, and bought their way to a golden ticket.", ">\n\nAnd all with the ability to afford transportation to the factory, or be within walking distance.", ">\n\nidk them being all english speaking isnt that unlikely idk if they said if the contest was worldwide or not but them all being kids is kind of convenient maybe it was wonka magic 🤷🏼‍♀️", ">\n\none's german and one (possibly two, not sure what nationality Veruca is supposed to be?) is American.", ">\n\nIt's weird that things that happen in stories tend to be convenient.", ">\n\nI hate to be one of those people that find deep problems with childhood classics but man Wonka is evil and it is disturbing that Charlie idolizes him. Wonka laid off all his employees and replaced them with slave labor. He is directly responsible for the Bucket family's poverty, but we're told to blame corporate spies instead of blaming Wonka. Wonka is somehow innocent and admirable. Charlie can't even afford to buy most of Wonka's products. Wonka makes a candy specifically for poor kids and we're supposed to admire him for it. That's nice and all but maybe lower the prices of your other products a bit. The existence of a factory fir a luxury item like candy while the Buckets are starving down the road from it shows an unacceptable wealth gap but Charlie admires the corporate overlord instead of despising him. We're supposed to see Wonka as a pure and innocent champion of childhood innocence and imagination when he is a slave owner who contributes to the wealth gap, doesn't hire employees and so doesn't put money back into the economy, and his products are mostly inaccessible to poor kids" ]

[ "This is a friendly reminder to read our rules.\nRemember, /r/Showerthoughts is for showerthoughts, not \"thoughts had in the shower!\"\n(For an explanation of what a \"showerthought\" is, please read this page.)\nRule-breaking posts may result in bans.", ">\n\nI mean, one of them was German, and other than that it appeared to be a mix of British and American kids.", ">\n\nExactly. Put some respect on our bilingual king Augustus Gloop’s name OP! 🍫🇩🇪", ">\n\nFun fact! Did you know the actress who played his mother (Save some room for later!) was in a porn right around that time?", ">\n\nI didn't believe you, so I checked. This appears to be true!", ">\n\nI mean Michael Scott tried this and all the tickets went to the same company.", ">\n\nOmg maybe that episode was really just to shine light on the fact that there is a reason that all the tickets wound up going to the same demographic", ">\n\nNot really sure I’d consider Charlie Bucket and Veruca Salt as the same demographic.", ">\n\nPresumably old mate got confused between demographic and age bracket", ">\n\nAge is a demographic btw", ">\n\nOk. In the story, only Augustus Gloop and Mike Teavee are the same age (9), everyone else is a different age.\nBut why is it surprising that the main characters of a Roald Dahl Story are children? That’s kind of the point of all his children’s novels. \nThere is also almost always an element of magic, or at least the unexplained-possibly-paranormal in his books. In the novel, adults around the world searched like crazy for those tickets, but of course Wonka knows children will be the recipients because his factory, and indeed his candies, are made for children, and their imaginations. The tickets themselves were intended for children, never an adult.\nThe real convenience of it all lies in the the book being written for a target audience, and that audience is children… therefore, characters they relate to.", ">\n\nI wasn’t inherently disagreeing with you (I was responding to the person above who assumed you didn’t think age is a demographic), you can narrow the age demographic to whatever you want. I’d consider “children” to be a general age demographic, but if you want to split it up, that’s fair. \nUntil your response, I didn’t think you were referring to their age, but other points of their demographic profile (SES, culture, location, etc).", ">\n\nI’m sorry, I misunderstood! You are right in thinking I wasn’t referring to their age, btw. I agree they all fit an age demographic, but that’s hardly relevant compared to the social statuses Dahl has created for them.", ">\n\nIt's also incredibly convenient that Wonka's creepy-looking henchman was at the right time and place when all of them were discovered. Almost as if they were planted.", ">\n\nWell there was nothing \"incredibly convenient\" about the winners being English speakers. That was about 99% of the UK at the time.", ">\n\nBecause the only place willy wonkas factory shipped to was within the United Kingdoms borders?", ">\n\nExcept in the film (never read the book) it was implied Wonka’s chocolates shipped out all over the world. I mean, Augustus Gloop was Austrian/German.\nBut yeah, the fact that it was all children who got it would be statistically improbable.", ">\n\nMeh, more kids buy candy than adults, and every year there are more kids than adults.", ">\n\nRight, but the candy wasn’t the main prize. You got a lifetime supply of chocolate which could be sold hand over fist, which I’m sure plenty of adults considered in their quest to find the golden tickets. And plus an exclusive tour of the world’s most mysterious and profitable candy company would almost truly be a once in a lifetime event, and you’re telling me some rich celebrity wouldn’t swoop in and offer any one of those children $10mil cash for the golden ticket, just to have the prestige of going to Wonka’s factory? Just doesn’t add up.", ">\n\nTrue", ">\n\nHappy Cake Day, Jan", ">\n\nHappy what?", ">\n\nIt’s your cake day. Hence the little cake icon next to your username.", ">\n\nIt's because the thing was rigged from the start. Willy Wonka had no children of his own, so he was specifically looking for an heir to take over his empire.", ">\n\nAnd a few to murder.", ">\n\nAs you do", ">\n\nAs is tradition", ">\n\nAs You Were - LG", ">\n\nConsidering the children were all horrible can you think of the uproar on what nationality gets what arsehole behaviour.", ">\n\nI got the impression that Wonka had pretty elaborate plans for the kids, and selected them specifically to teach them lessons?", ">\n\nExactly. He chose Charlie, it was just the final test.", ">\n\nIn the gene wilder version, the candy store salesman admits he was hiding Wonka bars while they were auctioning for extreme prices. Why would a man in the business of selling candy for profit do that? Then, it's not until charlie says he wants to buy something for his grandfather that the candy seller chooses the type of bar for him, and that bar has the golden ticket. \nHe knew he had it, and was intentionally holding it for somebody who wasn't buying for themselves.", ">\n\nCharlie & the chocolate factory Lore", ">\n\nReminds me of how in Boruto, the main ladies of Naruto took a collective pregnancy pact to birth children in the same year.", ">\n\nWhat the fuck", ">\n\nThat's not literally what happened.\nThe naruto cast just had children in the same class at the start of boruto. Which makes kind of sense because Naruto ends with a giant war and those make people have children historically but it's also obviously to have a story in which all the original characters are involved through their children.\nBut it's also so obviously contrived that people joke they all made a pact to get pregnant at the same time because otherwise it's too convenient that they all have children at close to the same age.", ">\n\nThe kids of Boruto are literal baby boomers", ">\n\nThe book is set in 1960s England… What else would they speak?", ">\n\nAre you implying minorities didn't exist back in the 60s? Especially after the war?", ">\n\nNo, they're implying that in a book written in English and probably set in either England or America, the characters all speaking English is not at all surprising.", ">\n\nYou're completely missing out on OP's point by trying to be a contrarian", ">\n\nNo, I'm pointing out that it's a children's book that was written in English and set in a country where English is by far the most commonly spoken language. So the fact that the main characters are mostly children who speak English is not surprising at all. Disagreeing is not the same as being contrarian.", ">\n\nYou are missing out on OP's point", ">\n\nPlease do tell, o enlightened one! What point am I missing exactly?", ">\n\nOr maybe they just didn’t ship the golden ticket chocolate bars to other countries… \nI doubt there we’re many people living in England who speak no English back in those days", ">\n\nAugustus Gloop was German, though? I mean, maybe he was a German immigrant who moved to England, but I was always under the impression that he lived in Germany based on his and his parents' accents.", ">\n\nAnd I thought Mike was the American. What with all the cowboy gear. Could be from anywhere I guess.", ">\n\nYou are seeking logic in a movie where a piece of gum turns a girl into a blueberry… let that sink in", ">\n\n\"I do say, that song & dance all seemed a bit rehearsed!\" (Best line from the remake.)", ">\n\nTLDW - \nBetween 12% and 24%\nThe range is caused when the definition of “white person/English speaking” is changed", ">\n\nI'll bet when you consider that globalization want a thing in the 1920s and you eliminate basically all of Asia, Africa, and South America considering an American candy company's distribution network. The British kid was from a wealthy family who spent insane amounts of money to find a ticket. \nThe the German kid is the most odd to me. How popular has American chocolate ever been in Germany? I'm guessing that is not very popular and that since his family only seemed relatively well off, a trip to America may have been a prohibitive expense due nothing more than a candy factory tour.\nEdit: TIL that the story took place in England (definitely at the forefront of globalization, even in the 1920s). So, that pretty much destroys the logic of my argument.", ">\n\nKid was also a chubster who inhaled sweets like air.", ">\n\nTo be fair English speaking countries tend to be richer therefore more kids there will buy more chocolate and therefore are more likely to get the tickets (Eg. Veruca buying hundreds of chocolates will give her a higher probability of landing a golden ticket than Charlie who can only afford one). \nBut yeah the fact that they’re children makes it rigged. Like I’m sure a teenager or even an adult would’ve gotten one because they bought chocolates too not just the kids.", ">\n\nWhat's strange is that one of those children wasn't an English speaker in real life and just learned the few lives he had to say in English without actually understanding everything.", ">\n\nI mean, it's a good way to murder your kids for insurance money and have a good alibi.", ">\n\nNot that convenient as britan is a white English speaking country it would be weird if it was different is what you meant to say 🤔", ">\n\nGrandpa Joe didn't get out of bed for 20 years. He let everyone take care of him. He decided he could walk again to see Wankas chocolate factory.", ">\n\nI still remember:\nteacher \"And all they had to eat every day was spinach\"\ngirl sitting on floor \"But I dont like spinach\"\nteacher looks down from book \"Then you would die.\"\nclass shocked picachu face\nme, in the back, cant hold back the laughter\nkid next to me looks over, What's your problem? written on his fucking kid face\ni cant speak... only laugh/cry", ">\n\nDidn't the film theory guy on YT calculate the odds of that happening?", ">\n\nAugustus Gloop wasn’t English. He was German. Don’t think he talked English at all.", ">\n\nIt's as convenient in England during that time period as it would be today if in Mexico they had something, and all the winners spoke Spanish. In other words, it's not suspiciously convenient at all.", ">\n\nThats all depends on where wonka sells his chocolate bars right?", ">\n\nSo you can suspend disbelief long enough to accept a factory with a chocolate river and candy plants but all the kids who found tickets speak the same language is just too much..", ">\n\nOf all the unreasonable events related to that story, you found the least one.", ">\n\nAugustus Gloop was from Germany.\nMike Teevee was from the USA.", ">\n\nI mean, it was America in the 1920s ... not a real inclusive time period. Not a lot of globalization going on in the 1920s, in America.\nEdit: 1920s England it seems ... so a fair bit more globalization than I'd assumed", ">\n\nPlenty of black people though.\nEdit: got those who can’t be bothered reading the stupid Reddit argument below, Charlie was originally written as black, and his family was dirt poor.", ">\n\nWhat do you think that the black population in the US (or any country that a British candy maker would have exported to in the 1920s for that matter) was in the 1920s?", ">\n\nAbout 10,000,000, according to Wikipedia.", ">\n\nSounds right ... a little less than 10% of the population.\nAnd how; do you think, many were in a socioeconomic position to spend money on imported European chocolate.", ">\n\nWhy don’t you answer your own question? I was responding to your point about the lack of “globalization” in the US, not about purchasing power of black Americans in 1920.", ">\n\nNo, you're were taking a position to insinuate that I was taking a position. So that you could seem or just feel superior in the \"great virtue\" that comes with micro-focusing on meaningless and disjointed facts out of context on your socials, because no one usually objects or bothers to call you out on your bullshit. \nMy next point would've been about how familiar with the black experience in 1920s America, do you think that Roald Dahl (a British writer in the 1960s) was, to be able to confidently include that in his book.", ">\n\npaywall", ">\n\nYour point is taken, but it was four kids of the same age, and one peanut-sheller trying to keep a terrible job.", ">\n\nThey weren't all found by kids, one of them had their father buy up all the stock and have his factory open them all and get a ticket, Agustus was eating loads of chocolate anyway, so his was a high chance relative to others. Except for charlie, they had systems in place to find them. Maybe Mike as well. But the film doesn't show that,", ">\n\nConvenient or just common sense? Look at the demographics of the time, things make sense when you use logic.", ">\n\nMy Chinese mum held onto dried plumbs for 6 months when she was a kid. That’s how deprived of decent sweets China was in the 70’s", ">\n\nThe Oompah Lumpah uprising will spare none of the bourgeoisie.", ">\n\nIf you ask that monster grandpa Joe, he would disagree. And crop dust you with cabbage farts as he waltzed away.", ">\n\nOompa loompas are just for show. Behind the colourful fake factory, the real factory is dark, damp, cold, and staffed by migrant children", ">\n\nIn the original book, Oompa Loompas were explicitly described as dark-skinned African pygmies who insisted on wearing their native clothing of skins and leaves- and the kids went naked. \nHe found them in their native country being preyed upon constantly by \"Whangdoodles, the Hornswogglers, and the Snozzwangers\" and offered to take them to live in his factory and they were happy to be paid in cacao beans.\nWilly Wonka is in a TON of legal trouble. Massive immigration and labor law violations, arguably slavery, is only the start. Child endangerment, manslaughter/negligent homicide, unsafe food handling practices, environmental pollution, and running illegal sweepstakes. \nPlus, seeing how the factory is a huge toxic pit of civil and criminal legal entanglements, he tries to just give his illegal sweatshop away to a random kid in an attempt to walk away from it and leave Charlie responsible for the consequences- which, legally, won't work", ">\n\nDid Augustus even speak? I remember his mom had a super thick accent.", ">\n\nHe did, but it was minimal dialogue. I think he offers Charlie some chocolate and makes a comment about eating more candy", ">\n\nIt's the same premise behind all the aliens invading Earth on Doctor Who starting with the UK.", ">\n\nI always thought it was strange that they were all conveniently found before the date on the ticket. Charlie's was found just the day before.", ">\n\nThey were all from countries where speaking English is very commonplace", ">\n\nIt’s like the McDonalds Monopoly game, it was rigged from the start.", ">\n\nI mean… he was the one who sent them out, he could’ve only sent the 5 to certain stores, or paid the owners of those store to specifically hand them to the people who got them, or any number of other things. We have no clue how deep wokna’s plan goes", ">\n\nIt's part of the story, the kids aside from Charlie all got there tickets by unfairly playing the system.", ">\n\nIt was an American company, I imagine its products were more distributed in America, and then to a lesser extent in Europe, then even less in other places. Sure enough, only two were non-Americans, and they were both from Europe.", ">\n\nDon't ask too many questions or the oompa loompas will pay you a visit", ">\n\nThat's the point, most of the kids were rich, and bought their way to a golden ticket.", ">\n\nAnd all with the ability to afford transportation to the factory, or be within walking distance.", ">\n\nidk them being all english speaking isnt that unlikely idk if they said if the contest was worldwide or not but them all being kids is kind of convenient maybe it was wonka magic 🤷🏼‍♀️", ">\n\none's german and one (possibly two, not sure what nationality Veruca is supposed to be?) is American.", ">\n\nIt's weird that things that happen in stories tend to be convenient.", ">\n\nI hate to be one of those people that find deep problems with childhood classics but man Wonka is evil and it is disturbing that Charlie idolizes him. Wonka laid off all his employees and replaced them with slave labor. He is directly responsible for the Bucket family's poverty, but we're told to blame corporate spies instead of blaming Wonka. Wonka is somehow innocent and admirable. Charlie can't even afford to buy most of Wonka's products. Wonka makes a candy specifically for poor kids and we're supposed to admire him for it. That's nice and all but maybe lower the prices of your other products a bit. The existence of a factory fir a luxury item like candy while the Buckets are starving down the road from it shows an unacceptable wealth gap but Charlie admires the corporate overlord instead of despising him. We're supposed to see Wonka as a pure and innocent champion of childhood innocence and imagination when he is a slave owner who contributes to the wealth gap, doesn't hire employees and so doesn't put money back into the economy, and his products are mostly inaccessible to poor kids", ">\n\nCharlie Bucket did nothing to prove himself worthy. All he did was not get in trouble and in the movie he doesn't even manage that. He redeems himself by apologizing but when did the other kids get an opportunity to do that? If we give the reward to the kid who went longest without getting in trouble, Teevee should've gotten it" ]

[ "This is a friendly reminder to read our rules.\nRemember, /r/Showerthoughts is for showerthoughts, not \"thoughts had in the shower!\"\n(For an explanation of what a \"showerthought\" is, please read this page.)\nRule-breaking posts may result in bans.", ">\n\nI mean, one of them was German, and other than that it appeared to be a mix of British and American kids.", ">\n\nExactly. Put some respect on our bilingual king Augustus Gloop’s name OP! 🍫🇩🇪", ">\n\nFun fact! Did you know the actress who played his mother (Save some room for later!) was in a porn right around that time?", ">\n\nI didn't believe you, so I checked. This appears to be true!", ">\n\nI mean Michael Scott tried this and all the tickets went to the same company.", ">\n\nOmg maybe that episode was really just to shine light on the fact that there is a reason that all the tickets wound up going to the same demographic", ">\n\nNot really sure I’d consider Charlie Bucket and Veruca Salt as the same demographic.", ">\n\nPresumably old mate got confused between demographic and age bracket", ">\n\nAge is a demographic btw", ">\n\nOk. In the story, only Augustus Gloop and Mike Teavee are the same age (9), everyone else is a different age.\nBut why is it surprising that the main characters of a Roald Dahl Story are children? That’s kind of the point of all his children’s novels. \nThere is also almost always an element of magic, or at least the unexplained-possibly-paranormal in his books. In the novel, adults around the world searched like crazy for those tickets, but of course Wonka knows children will be the recipients because his factory, and indeed his candies, are made for children, and their imaginations. The tickets themselves were intended for children, never an adult.\nThe real convenience of it all lies in the the book being written for a target audience, and that audience is children… therefore, characters they relate to.", ">\n\nI wasn’t inherently disagreeing with you (I was responding to the person above who assumed you didn’t think age is a demographic), you can narrow the age demographic to whatever you want. I’d consider “children” to be a general age demographic, but if you want to split it up, that’s fair. \nUntil your response, I didn’t think you were referring to their age, but other points of their demographic profile (SES, culture, location, etc).", ">\n\nI’m sorry, I misunderstood! You are right in thinking I wasn’t referring to their age, btw. I agree they all fit an age demographic, but that’s hardly relevant compared to the social statuses Dahl has created for them.", ">\n\nIt's also incredibly convenient that Wonka's creepy-looking henchman was at the right time and place when all of them were discovered. Almost as if they were planted.", ">\n\nWell there was nothing \"incredibly convenient\" about the winners being English speakers. That was about 99% of the UK at the time.", ">\n\nBecause the only place willy wonkas factory shipped to was within the United Kingdoms borders?", ">\n\nExcept in the film (never read the book) it was implied Wonka’s chocolates shipped out all over the world. I mean, Augustus Gloop was Austrian/German.\nBut yeah, the fact that it was all children who got it would be statistically improbable.", ">\n\nMeh, more kids buy candy than adults, and every year there are more kids than adults.", ">\n\nRight, but the candy wasn’t the main prize. You got a lifetime supply of chocolate which could be sold hand over fist, which I’m sure plenty of adults considered in their quest to find the golden tickets. And plus an exclusive tour of the world’s most mysterious and profitable candy company would almost truly be a once in a lifetime event, and you’re telling me some rich celebrity wouldn’t swoop in and offer any one of those children $10mil cash for the golden ticket, just to have the prestige of going to Wonka’s factory? Just doesn’t add up.", ">\n\nTrue", ">\n\nHappy Cake Day, Jan", ">\n\nHappy what?", ">\n\nIt’s your cake day. Hence the little cake icon next to your username.", ">\n\nIt's because the thing was rigged from the start. Willy Wonka had no children of his own, so he was specifically looking for an heir to take over his empire.", ">\n\nAnd a few to murder.", ">\n\nAs you do", ">\n\nAs is tradition", ">\n\nAs You Were - LG", ">\n\nConsidering the children were all horrible can you think of the uproar on what nationality gets what arsehole behaviour.", ">\n\nI got the impression that Wonka had pretty elaborate plans for the kids, and selected them specifically to teach them lessons?", ">\n\nExactly. He chose Charlie, it was just the final test.", ">\n\nIn the gene wilder version, the candy store salesman admits he was hiding Wonka bars while they were auctioning for extreme prices. Why would a man in the business of selling candy for profit do that? Then, it's not until charlie says he wants to buy something for his grandfather that the candy seller chooses the type of bar for him, and that bar has the golden ticket. \nHe knew he had it, and was intentionally holding it for somebody who wasn't buying for themselves.", ">\n\nCharlie & the chocolate factory Lore", ">\n\nReminds me of how in Boruto, the main ladies of Naruto took a collective pregnancy pact to birth children in the same year.", ">\n\nWhat the fuck", ">\n\nThat's not literally what happened.\nThe naruto cast just had children in the same class at the start of boruto. Which makes kind of sense because Naruto ends with a giant war and those make people have children historically but it's also obviously to have a story in which all the original characters are involved through their children.\nBut it's also so obviously contrived that people joke they all made a pact to get pregnant at the same time because otherwise it's too convenient that they all have children at close to the same age.", ">\n\nThe kids of Boruto are literal baby boomers", ">\n\nThe book is set in 1960s England… What else would they speak?", ">\n\nAre you implying minorities didn't exist back in the 60s? Especially after the war?", ">\n\nNo, they're implying that in a book written in English and probably set in either England or America, the characters all speaking English is not at all surprising.", ">\n\nYou're completely missing out on OP's point by trying to be a contrarian", ">\n\nNo, I'm pointing out that it's a children's book that was written in English and set in a country where English is by far the most commonly spoken language. So the fact that the main characters are mostly children who speak English is not surprising at all. Disagreeing is not the same as being contrarian.", ">\n\nYou are missing out on OP's point", ">\n\nPlease do tell, o enlightened one! What point am I missing exactly?", ">\n\nOr maybe they just didn’t ship the golden ticket chocolate bars to other countries… \nI doubt there we’re many people living in England who speak no English back in those days", ">\n\nAugustus Gloop was German, though? I mean, maybe he was a German immigrant who moved to England, but I was always under the impression that he lived in Germany based on his and his parents' accents.", ">\n\nAnd I thought Mike was the American. What with all the cowboy gear. Could be from anywhere I guess.", ">\n\nYou are seeking logic in a movie where a piece of gum turns a girl into a blueberry… let that sink in", ">\n\n\"I do say, that song & dance all seemed a bit rehearsed!\" (Best line from the remake.)", ">\n\nTLDW - \nBetween 12% and 24%\nThe range is caused when the definition of “white person/English speaking” is changed", ">\n\nI'll bet when you consider that globalization want a thing in the 1920s and you eliminate basically all of Asia, Africa, and South America considering an American candy company's distribution network. The British kid was from a wealthy family who spent insane amounts of money to find a ticket. \nThe the German kid is the most odd to me. How popular has American chocolate ever been in Germany? I'm guessing that is not very popular and that since his family only seemed relatively well off, a trip to America may have been a prohibitive expense due nothing more than a candy factory tour.\nEdit: TIL that the story took place in England (definitely at the forefront of globalization, even in the 1920s). So, that pretty much destroys the logic of my argument.", ">\n\nKid was also a chubster who inhaled sweets like air.", ">\n\nTo be fair English speaking countries tend to be richer therefore more kids there will buy more chocolate and therefore are more likely to get the tickets (Eg. Veruca buying hundreds of chocolates will give her a higher probability of landing a golden ticket than Charlie who can only afford one). \nBut yeah the fact that they’re children makes it rigged. Like I’m sure a teenager or even an adult would’ve gotten one because they bought chocolates too not just the kids.", ">\n\nWhat's strange is that one of those children wasn't an English speaker in real life and just learned the few lives he had to say in English without actually understanding everything.", ">\n\nI mean, it's a good way to murder your kids for insurance money and have a good alibi.", ">\n\nNot that convenient as britan is a white English speaking country it would be weird if it was different is what you meant to say 🤔", ">\n\nGrandpa Joe didn't get out of bed for 20 years. He let everyone take care of him. He decided he could walk again to see Wankas chocolate factory.", ">\n\nI still remember:\nteacher \"And all they had to eat every day was spinach\"\ngirl sitting on floor \"But I dont like spinach\"\nteacher looks down from book \"Then you would die.\"\nclass shocked picachu face\nme, in the back, cant hold back the laughter\nkid next to me looks over, What's your problem? written on his fucking kid face\ni cant speak... only laugh/cry", ">\n\nDidn't the film theory guy on YT calculate the odds of that happening?", ">\n\nAugustus Gloop wasn’t English. He was German. Don’t think he talked English at all.", ">\n\nIt's as convenient in England during that time period as it would be today if in Mexico they had something, and all the winners spoke Spanish. In other words, it's not suspiciously convenient at all.", ">\n\nThats all depends on where wonka sells his chocolate bars right?", ">\n\nSo you can suspend disbelief long enough to accept a factory with a chocolate river and candy plants but all the kids who found tickets speak the same language is just too much..", ">\n\nOf all the unreasonable events related to that story, you found the least one.", ">\n\nAugustus Gloop was from Germany.\nMike Teevee was from the USA.", ">\n\nI mean, it was America in the 1920s ... not a real inclusive time period. Not a lot of globalization going on in the 1920s, in America.\nEdit: 1920s England it seems ... so a fair bit more globalization than I'd assumed", ">\n\nPlenty of black people though.\nEdit: got those who can’t be bothered reading the stupid Reddit argument below, Charlie was originally written as black, and his family was dirt poor.", ">\n\nWhat do you think that the black population in the US (or any country that a British candy maker would have exported to in the 1920s for that matter) was in the 1920s?", ">\n\nAbout 10,000,000, according to Wikipedia.", ">\n\nSounds right ... a little less than 10% of the population.\nAnd how; do you think, many were in a socioeconomic position to spend money on imported European chocolate.", ">\n\nWhy don’t you answer your own question? I was responding to your point about the lack of “globalization” in the US, not about purchasing power of black Americans in 1920.", ">\n\nNo, you're were taking a position to insinuate that I was taking a position. So that you could seem or just feel superior in the \"great virtue\" that comes with micro-focusing on meaningless and disjointed facts out of context on your socials, because no one usually objects or bothers to call you out on your bullshit. \nMy next point would've been about how familiar with the black experience in 1920s America, do you think that Roald Dahl (a British writer in the 1960s) was, to be able to confidently include that in his book.", ">\n\npaywall", ">\n\nYour point is taken, but it was four kids of the same age, and one peanut-sheller trying to keep a terrible job.", ">\n\nThey weren't all found by kids, one of them had their father buy up all the stock and have his factory open them all and get a ticket, Agustus was eating loads of chocolate anyway, so his was a high chance relative to others. Except for charlie, they had systems in place to find them. Maybe Mike as well. But the film doesn't show that,", ">\n\nConvenient or just common sense? Look at the demographics of the time, things make sense when you use logic.", ">\n\nMy Chinese mum held onto dried plumbs for 6 months when she was a kid. That’s how deprived of decent sweets China was in the 70’s", ">\n\nThe Oompah Lumpah uprising will spare none of the bourgeoisie.", ">\n\nIf you ask that monster grandpa Joe, he would disagree. And crop dust you with cabbage farts as he waltzed away.", ">\n\nOompa loompas are just for show. Behind the colourful fake factory, the real factory is dark, damp, cold, and staffed by migrant children", ">\n\nIn the original book, Oompa Loompas were explicitly described as dark-skinned African pygmies who insisted on wearing their native clothing of skins and leaves- and the kids went naked. \nHe found them in their native country being preyed upon constantly by \"Whangdoodles, the Hornswogglers, and the Snozzwangers\" and offered to take them to live in his factory and they were happy to be paid in cacao beans.\nWilly Wonka is in a TON of legal trouble. Massive immigration and labor law violations, arguably slavery, is only the start. Child endangerment, manslaughter/negligent homicide, unsafe food handling practices, environmental pollution, and running illegal sweepstakes. \nPlus, seeing how the factory is a huge toxic pit of civil and criminal legal entanglements, he tries to just give his illegal sweatshop away to a random kid in an attempt to walk away from it and leave Charlie responsible for the consequences- which, legally, won't work", ">\n\nDid Augustus even speak? I remember his mom had a super thick accent.", ">\n\nHe did, but it was minimal dialogue. I think he offers Charlie some chocolate and makes a comment about eating more candy", ">\n\nIt's the same premise behind all the aliens invading Earth on Doctor Who starting with the UK.", ">\n\nI always thought it was strange that they were all conveniently found before the date on the ticket. Charlie's was found just the day before.", ">\n\nThey were all from countries where speaking English is very commonplace", ">\n\nIt’s like the McDonalds Monopoly game, it was rigged from the start.", ">\n\nI mean… he was the one who sent them out, he could’ve only sent the 5 to certain stores, or paid the owners of those store to specifically hand them to the people who got them, or any number of other things. We have no clue how deep wokna’s plan goes", ">\n\nIt's part of the story, the kids aside from Charlie all got there tickets by unfairly playing the system.", ">\n\nIt was an American company, I imagine its products were more distributed in America, and then to a lesser extent in Europe, then even less in other places. Sure enough, only two were non-Americans, and they were both from Europe.", ">\n\nDon't ask too many questions or the oompa loompas will pay you a visit", ">\n\nThat's the point, most of the kids were rich, and bought their way to a golden ticket.", ">\n\nAnd all with the ability to afford transportation to the factory, or be within walking distance.", ">\n\nidk them being all english speaking isnt that unlikely idk if they said if the contest was worldwide or not but them all being kids is kind of convenient maybe it was wonka magic 🤷🏼‍♀️", ">\n\none's german and one (possibly two, not sure what nationality Veruca is supposed to be?) is American.", ">\n\nIt's weird that things that happen in stories tend to be convenient.", ">\n\nI hate to be one of those people that find deep problems with childhood classics but man Wonka is evil and it is disturbing that Charlie idolizes him. Wonka laid off all his employees and replaced them with slave labor. He is directly responsible for the Bucket family's poverty, but we're told to blame corporate spies instead of blaming Wonka. Wonka is somehow innocent and admirable. Charlie can't even afford to buy most of Wonka's products. Wonka makes a candy specifically for poor kids and we're supposed to admire him for it. That's nice and all but maybe lower the prices of your other products a bit. The existence of a factory fir a luxury item like candy while the Buckets are starving down the road from it shows an unacceptable wealth gap but Charlie admires the corporate overlord instead of despising him. We're supposed to see Wonka as a pure and innocent champion of childhood innocence and imagination when he is a slave owner who contributes to the wealth gap, doesn't hire employees and so doesn't put money back into the economy, and his products are mostly inaccessible to poor kids", ">\n\nCharlie Bucket did nothing to prove himself worthy. All he did was not get in trouble and in the movie he doesn't even manage that. He redeems himself by apologizing but when did the other kids get an opportunity to do that? If we give the reward to the kid who went longest without getting in trouble, Teevee should've gotten it", ">\n\nIn real life if we had some global coke ticket thing, it would be presumably a requirement to know English." ]

[ "This is a friendly reminder to read our rules.\nRemember, /r/Showerthoughts is for showerthoughts, not \"thoughts had in the shower!\"\n(For an explanation of what a \"showerthought\" is, please read this page.)\nRule-breaking posts may result in bans.", ">\n\nI mean, one of them was German, and other than that it appeared to be a mix of British and American kids.", ">\n\nExactly. Put some respect on our bilingual king Augustus Gloop’s name OP! 🍫🇩🇪", ">\n\nFun fact! Did you know the actress who played his mother (Save some room for later!) was in a porn right around that time?", ">\n\nI didn't believe you, so I checked. This appears to be true!", ">\n\nI mean Michael Scott tried this and all the tickets went to the same company.", ">\n\nOmg maybe that episode was really just to shine light on the fact that there is a reason that all the tickets wound up going to the same demographic", ">\n\nNot really sure I’d consider Charlie Bucket and Veruca Salt as the same demographic.", ">\n\nPresumably old mate got confused between demographic and age bracket", ">\n\nAge is a demographic btw", ">\n\nOk. In the story, only Augustus Gloop and Mike Teavee are the same age (9), everyone else is a different age.\nBut why is it surprising that the main characters of a Roald Dahl Story are children? That’s kind of the point of all his children’s novels. \nThere is also almost always an element of magic, or at least the unexplained-possibly-paranormal in his books. In the novel, adults around the world searched like crazy for those tickets, but of course Wonka knows children will be the recipients because his factory, and indeed his candies, are made for children, and their imaginations. The tickets themselves were intended for children, never an adult.\nThe real convenience of it all lies in the the book being written for a target audience, and that audience is children… therefore, characters they relate to.", ">\n\nI wasn’t inherently disagreeing with you (I was responding to the person above who assumed you didn’t think age is a demographic), you can narrow the age demographic to whatever you want. I’d consider “children” to be a general age demographic, but if you want to split it up, that’s fair. \nUntil your response, I didn’t think you were referring to their age, but other points of their demographic profile (SES, culture, location, etc).", ">\n\nI’m sorry, I misunderstood! You are right in thinking I wasn’t referring to their age, btw. I agree they all fit an age demographic, but that’s hardly relevant compared to the social statuses Dahl has created for them.", ">\n\nIt's also incredibly convenient that Wonka's creepy-looking henchman was at the right time and place when all of them were discovered. Almost as if they were planted.", ">\n\nWell there was nothing \"incredibly convenient\" about the winners being English speakers. That was about 99% of the UK at the time.", ">\n\nBecause the only place willy wonkas factory shipped to was within the United Kingdoms borders?", ">\n\nExcept in the film (never read the book) it was implied Wonka’s chocolates shipped out all over the world. I mean, Augustus Gloop was Austrian/German.\nBut yeah, the fact that it was all children who got it would be statistically improbable.", ">\n\nMeh, more kids buy candy than adults, and every year there are more kids than adults.", ">\n\nRight, but the candy wasn’t the main prize. You got a lifetime supply of chocolate which could be sold hand over fist, which I’m sure plenty of adults considered in their quest to find the golden tickets. And plus an exclusive tour of the world’s most mysterious and profitable candy company would almost truly be a once in a lifetime event, and you’re telling me some rich celebrity wouldn’t swoop in and offer any one of those children $10mil cash for the golden ticket, just to have the prestige of going to Wonka’s factory? Just doesn’t add up.", ">\n\nTrue", ">\n\nHappy Cake Day, Jan", ">\n\nHappy what?", ">\n\nIt’s your cake day. Hence the little cake icon next to your username.", ">\n\nIt's because the thing was rigged from the start. Willy Wonka had no children of his own, so he was specifically looking for an heir to take over his empire.", ">\n\nAnd a few to murder.", ">\n\nAs you do", ">\n\nAs is tradition", ">\n\nAs You Were - LG", ">\n\nConsidering the children were all horrible can you think of the uproar on what nationality gets what arsehole behaviour.", ">\n\nI got the impression that Wonka had pretty elaborate plans for the kids, and selected them specifically to teach them lessons?", ">\n\nExactly. He chose Charlie, it was just the final test.", ">\n\nIn the gene wilder version, the candy store salesman admits he was hiding Wonka bars while they were auctioning for extreme prices. Why would a man in the business of selling candy for profit do that? Then, it's not until charlie says he wants to buy something for his grandfather that the candy seller chooses the type of bar for him, and that bar has the golden ticket. \nHe knew he had it, and was intentionally holding it for somebody who wasn't buying for themselves.", ">\n\nCharlie & the chocolate factory Lore", ">\n\nReminds me of how in Boruto, the main ladies of Naruto took a collective pregnancy pact to birth children in the same year.", ">\n\nWhat the fuck", ">\n\nThat's not literally what happened.\nThe naruto cast just had children in the same class at the start of boruto. Which makes kind of sense because Naruto ends with a giant war and those make people have children historically but it's also obviously to have a story in which all the original characters are involved through their children.\nBut it's also so obviously contrived that people joke they all made a pact to get pregnant at the same time because otherwise it's too convenient that they all have children at close to the same age.", ">\n\nThe kids of Boruto are literal baby boomers", ">\n\nThe book is set in 1960s England… What else would they speak?", ">\n\nAre you implying minorities didn't exist back in the 60s? Especially after the war?", ">\n\nNo, they're implying that in a book written in English and probably set in either England or America, the characters all speaking English is not at all surprising.", ">\n\nYou're completely missing out on OP's point by trying to be a contrarian", ">\n\nNo, I'm pointing out that it's a children's book that was written in English and set in a country where English is by far the most commonly spoken language. So the fact that the main characters are mostly children who speak English is not surprising at all. Disagreeing is not the same as being contrarian.", ">\n\nYou are missing out on OP's point", ">\n\nPlease do tell, o enlightened one! What point am I missing exactly?", ">\n\nOr maybe they just didn’t ship the golden ticket chocolate bars to other countries… \nI doubt there we’re many people living in England who speak no English back in those days", ">\n\nAugustus Gloop was German, though? I mean, maybe he was a German immigrant who moved to England, but I was always under the impression that he lived in Germany based on his and his parents' accents.", ">\n\nAnd I thought Mike was the American. What with all the cowboy gear. Could be from anywhere I guess.", ">\n\nYou are seeking logic in a movie where a piece of gum turns a girl into a blueberry… let that sink in", ">\n\n\"I do say, that song & dance all seemed a bit rehearsed!\" (Best line from the remake.)", ">\n\nTLDW - \nBetween 12% and 24%\nThe range is caused when the definition of “white person/English speaking” is changed", ">\n\nI'll bet when you consider that globalization want a thing in the 1920s and you eliminate basically all of Asia, Africa, and South America considering an American candy company's distribution network. The British kid was from a wealthy family who spent insane amounts of money to find a ticket. \nThe the German kid is the most odd to me. How popular has American chocolate ever been in Germany? I'm guessing that is not very popular and that since his family only seemed relatively well off, a trip to America may have been a prohibitive expense due nothing more than a candy factory tour.\nEdit: TIL that the story took place in England (definitely at the forefront of globalization, even in the 1920s). So, that pretty much destroys the logic of my argument.", ">\n\nKid was also a chubster who inhaled sweets like air.", ">\n\nTo be fair English speaking countries tend to be richer therefore more kids there will buy more chocolate and therefore are more likely to get the tickets (Eg. Veruca buying hundreds of chocolates will give her a higher probability of landing a golden ticket than Charlie who can only afford one). \nBut yeah the fact that they’re children makes it rigged. Like I’m sure a teenager or even an adult would’ve gotten one because they bought chocolates too not just the kids.", ">\n\nWhat's strange is that one of those children wasn't an English speaker in real life and just learned the few lives he had to say in English without actually understanding everything.", ">\n\nI mean, it's a good way to murder your kids for insurance money and have a good alibi.", ">\n\nNot that convenient as britan is a white English speaking country it would be weird if it was different is what you meant to say 🤔", ">\n\nGrandpa Joe didn't get out of bed for 20 years. He let everyone take care of him. He decided he could walk again to see Wankas chocolate factory.", ">\n\nI still remember:\nteacher \"And all they had to eat every day was spinach\"\ngirl sitting on floor \"But I dont like spinach\"\nteacher looks down from book \"Then you would die.\"\nclass shocked picachu face\nme, in the back, cant hold back the laughter\nkid next to me looks over, What's your problem? written on his fucking kid face\ni cant speak... only laugh/cry", ">\n\nDidn't the film theory guy on YT calculate the odds of that happening?", ">\n\nAugustus Gloop wasn’t English. He was German. Don’t think he talked English at all.", ">\n\nIt's as convenient in England during that time period as it would be today if in Mexico they had something, and all the winners spoke Spanish. In other words, it's not suspiciously convenient at all.", ">\n\nThats all depends on where wonka sells his chocolate bars right?", ">\n\nSo you can suspend disbelief long enough to accept a factory with a chocolate river and candy plants but all the kids who found tickets speak the same language is just too much..", ">\n\nOf all the unreasonable events related to that story, you found the least one.", ">\n\nAugustus Gloop was from Germany.\nMike Teevee was from the USA.", ">\n\nI mean, it was America in the 1920s ... not a real inclusive time period. Not a lot of globalization going on in the 1920s, in America.\nEdit: 1920s England it seems ... so a fair bit more globalization than I'd assumed", ">\n\nPlenty of black people though.\nEdit: got those who can’t be bothered reading the stupid Reddit argument below, Charlie was originally written as black, and his family was dirt poor.", ">\n\nWhat do you think that the black population in the US (or any country that a British candy maker would have exported to in the 1920s for that matter) was in the 1920s?", ">\n\nAbout 10,000,000, according to Wikipedia.", ">\n\nSounds right ... a little less than 10% of the population.\nAnd how; do you think, many were in a socioeconomic position to spend money on imported European chocolate.", ">\n\nWhy don’t you answer your own question? I was responding to your point about the lack of “globalization” in the US, not about purchasing power of black Americans in 1920.", ">\n\nNo, you're were taking a position to insinuate that I was taking a position. So that you could seem or just feel superior in the \"great virtue\" that comes with micro-focusing on meaningless and disjointed facts out of context on your socials, because no one usually objects or bothers to call you out on your bullshit. \nMy next point would've been about how familiar with the black experience in 1920s America, do you think that Roald Dahl (a British writer in the 1960s) was, to be able to confidently include that in his book.", ">\n\npaywall", ">\n\nYour point is taken, but it was four kids of the same age, and one peanut-sheller trying to keep a terrible job.", ">\n\nThey weren't all found by kids, one of them had their father buy up all the stock and have his factory open them all and get a ticket, Agustus was eating loads of chocolate anyway, so his was a high chance relative to others. Except for charlie, they had systems in place to find them. Maybe Mike as well. But the film doesn't show that,", ">\n\nConvenient or just common sense? Look at the demographics of the time, things make sense when you use logic.", ">\n\nMy Chinese mum held onto dried plumbs for 6 months when she was a kid. That’s how deprived of decent sweets China was in the 70’s", ">\n\nThe Oompah Lumpah uprising will spare none of the bourgeoisie.", ">\n\nIf you ask that monster grandpa Joe, he would disagree. And crop dust you with cabbage farts as he waltzed away.", ">\n\nOompa loompas are just for show. Behind the colourful fake factory, the real factory is dark, damp, cold, and staffed by migrant children", ">\n\nIn the original book, Oompa Loompas were explicitly described as dark-skinned African pygmies who insisted on wearing their native clothing of skins and leaves- and the kids went naked. \nHe found them in their native country being preyed upon constantly by \"Whangdoodles, the Hornswogglers, and the Snozzwangers\" and offered to take them to live in his factory and they were happy to be paid in cacao beans.\nWilly Wonka is in a TON of legal trouble. Massive immigration and labor law violations, arguably slavery, is only the start. Child endangerment, manslaughter/negligent homicide, unsafe food handling practices, environmental pollution, and running illegal sweepstakes. \nPlus, seeing how the factory is a huge toxic pit of civil and criminal legal entanglements, he tries to just give his illegal sweatshop away to a random kid in an attempt to walk away from it and leave Charlie responsible for the consequences- which, legally, won't work", ">\n\nDid Augustus even speak? I remember his mom had a super thick accent.", ">\n\nHe did, but it was minimal dialogue. I think he offers Charlie some chocolate and makes a comment about eating more candy", ">\n\nIt's the same premise behind all the aliens invading Earth on Doctor Who starting with the UK.", ">\n\nI always thought it was strange that they were all conveniently found before the date on the ticket. Charlie's was found just the day before.", ">\n\nThey were all from countries where speaking English is very commonplace", ">\n\nIt’s like the McDonalds Monopoly game, it was rigged from the start.", ">\n\nI mean… he was the one who sent them out, he could’ve only sent the 5 to certain stores, or paid the owners of those store to specifically hand them to the people who got them, or any number of other things. We have no clue how deep wokna’s plan goes", ">\n\nIt's part of the story, the kids aside from Charlie all got there tickets by unfairly playing the system.", ">\n\nIt was an American company, I imagine its products were more distributed in America, and then to a lesser extent in Europe, then even less in other places. Sure enough, only two were non-Americans, and they were both from Europe.", ">\n\nDon't ask too many questions or the oompa loompas will pay you a visit", ">\n\nThat's the point, most of the kids were rich, and bought their way to a golden ticket.", ">\n\nAnd all with the ability to afford transportation to the factory, or be within walking distance.", ">\n\nidk them being all english speaking isnt that unlikely idk if they said if the contest was worldwide or not but them all being kids is kind of convenient maybe it was wonka magic 🤷🏼‍♀️", ">\n\none's german and one (possibly two, not sure what nationality Veruca is supposed to be?) is American.", ">\n\nIt's weird that things that happen in stories tend to be convenient.", ">\n\nI hate to be one of those people that find deep problems with childhood classics but man Wonka is evil and it is disturbing that Charlie idolizes him. Wonka laid off all his employees and replaced them with slave labor. He is directly responsible for the Bucket family's poverty, but we're told to blame corporate spies instead of blaming Wonka. Wonka is somehow innocent and admirable. Charlie can't even afford to buy most of Wonka's products. Wonka makes a candy specifically for poor kids and we're supposed to admire him for it. That's nice and all but maybe lower the prices of your other products a bit. The existence of a factory fir a luxury item like candy while the Buckets are starving down the road from it shows an unacceptable wealth gap but Charlie admires the corporate overlord instead of despising him. We're supposed to see Wonka as a pure and innocent champion of childhood innocence and imagination when he is a slave owner who contributes to the wealth gap, doesn't hire employees and so doesn't put money back into the economy, and his products are mostly inaccessible to poor kids", ">\n\nCharlie Bucket did nothing to prove himself worthy. All he did was not get in trouble and in the movie he doesn't even manage that. He redeems himself by apologizing but when did the other kids get an opportunity to do that? If we give the reward to the kid who went longest without getting in trouble, Teevee should've gotten it", ">\n\nIn real life if we had some global coke ticket thing, it would be presumably a requirement to know English.", ">\n\nIf it was hosted in England or America, then probably, but someone as rich as Wonka (or the CEO of Coke if you want to continue the allegory) could almost certainly afford translators" ]

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[ "Hello sheeple…give them a break They were too busy trying to steal the election and we’re planning to raid the treasury" ]

[ "Hello sheeple…give them a break They were too busy trying to steal the election and we’re planning to raid the treasury", ">\n\nThey needed Chinese patents for princes Ivanka" ]

[ "Hello sheeple…give them a break They were too busy trying to steal the election and we’re planning to raid the treasury", ">\n\nThey needed Chinese patents for princes Ivanka", ">\n\nLol, that was good" ]

[ "Hello sheeple…give them a break They were too busy trying to steal the election and we’re planning to raid the treasury", ">\n\nThey needed Chinese patents for princes Ivanka", ">\n\nLol, that was good", ">\n\nIn Trump's defense he has spent the last 6 years telling us how terrible our military and veterans are. You know - a bunch of suckers and losers. Such a shame that he was SO CLOSE to making them perfect in every way." ]

[ "Hello sheeple…give them a break They were too busy trying to steal the election and we’re planning to raid the treasury", ">\n\nThey needed Chinese patents for princes Ivanka", ">\n\nLol, that was good", ">\n\nIn Trump's defense he has spent the last 6 years telling us how terrible our military and veterans are. You know - a bunch of suckers and losers. Such a shame that he was SO CLOSE to making them perfect in every way.", ">\n\nWhy isn’t there footage of these ones ? \nWhy isn’t the media showing them am I missing something" ]

[ "Hello sheeple…give them a break They were too busy trying to steal the election and we’re planning to raid the treasury", ">\n\nThey needed Chinese patents for princes Ivanka", ">\n\nLol, that was good", ">\n\nIn Trump's defense he has spent the last 6 years telling us how terrible our military and veterans are. You know - a bunch of suckers and losers. Such a shame that he was SO CLOSE to making them perfect in every way.", ">\n\nWhy isn’t there footage of these ones ? \nWhy isn’t the media showing them am I missing something", ">\n\nThe media doesn’t have pictures of the balloons that flew over the US during TFG’s tenure, we’ll need to wait for everything to be unclassified.\nETA: declassified" ]

[ "Hello sheeple…give them a break They were too busy trying to steal the election and we’re planning to raid the treasury", ">\n\nThey needed Chinese patents for princes Ivanka", ">\n\nLol, that was good", ">\n\nIn Trump's defense he has spent the last 6 years telling us how terrible our military and veterans are. You know - a bunch of suckers and losers. Such a shame that he was SO CLOSE to making them perfect in every way.", ">\n\nWhy isn’t there footage of these ones ? \nWhy isn’t the media showing them am I missing something", ">\n\nThe media doesn’t have pictures of the balloons that flew over the US during TFG’s tenure, we’ll need to wait for everything to be unclassified.\nETA: declassified", ">\n\nUnmentioned*" ]

[ "Hello sheeple…give them a break They were too busy trying to steal the election and we’re planning to raid the treasury", ">\n\nThey needed Chinese patents for princes Ivanka", ">\n\nLol, that was good", ">\n\nIn Trump's defense he has spent the last 6 years telling us how terrible our military and veterans are. You know - a bunch of suckers and losers. Such a shame that he was SO CLOSE to making them perfect in every way.", ">\n\nWhy isn’t there footage of these ones ? \nWhy isn’t the media showing them am I missing something", ">\n\nThe media doesn’t have pictures of the balloons that flew over the US during TFG’s tenure, we’ll need to wait for everything to be unclassified.\nETA: declassified", ">\n\nUnmentioned*", ">\n\nThe Pentagon updated it's software last year and ran back previous air incursions through it and voila there were the Chinese balloons, Trump didn't have a clue about them because his Pentagon were running inferior detection software." ]

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[ "Russia knows all the best people." ]

[ "Russia knows all the best people.", ">\n\nThe company Russia keeps….Syria, North Korea, Iran, Myanmar, China." ]

[ "Russia knows all the best people.", ">\n\nThe company Russia keeps….Syria, North Korea, Iran, Myanmar, China.", ">\n\nWait till you hear about the company america keeps!" ]

[ "Russia knows all the best people.", ">\n\nThe company Russia keeps….Syria, North Korea, Iran, Myanmar, China.", ">\n\nWait till you hear about the company america keeps!", ">\n\nSure. Give me the bad 5." ]

[ "Russia knows all the best people.", ">\n\nThe company Russia keeps….Syria, North Korea, Iran, Myanmar, China.", ">\n\nWait till you hear about the company america keeps!", ">\n\nSure. Give me the bad 5.", ">\n\nIsrael\nSaudi Arabia\nPakistan\nMyanmar !!!\nHonduras\nUzbekistan/ Kyrgyzstan / Kazakhstan \nI’m leaving out countries who were supported during their worst times, like South Africa, iraq (during the Iran iraq war) and others." ]

[ "Russia knows all the best people.", ">\n\nThe company Russia keeps….Syria, North Korea, Iran, Myanmar, China.", ">\n\nWait till you hear about the company america keeps!", ">\n\nSure. Give me the bad 5.", ">\n\nIsrael\nSaudi Arabia\nPakistan\nMyanmar !!!\nHonduras\nUzbekistan/ Kyrgyzstan / Kazakhstan \nI’m leaving out countries who were supported during their worst times, like South Africa, iraq (during the Iran iraq war) and others.", ">\n\nrussia is best choice for how to do nuclear power /s" ]

[ "Russia knows all the best people.", ">\n\nThe company Russia keeps….Syria, North Korea, Iran, Myanmar, China.", ">\n\nWait till you hear about the company america keeps!", ">\n\nSure. Give me the bad 5.", ">\n\nIsrael\nSaudi Arabia\nPakistan\nMyanmar !!!\nHonduras\nUzbekistan/ Kyrgyzstan / Kazakhstan \nI’m leaving out countries who were supported during their worst times, like South Africa, iraq (during the Iran iraq war) and others.", ">\n\nrussia is best choice for how to do nuclear power /s", ">\n\nA losing proposition for Myanmar." ]

[ "Russia knows all the best people.", ">\n\nThe company Russia keeps….Syria, North Korea, Iran, Myanmar, China.", ">\n\nWait till you hear about the company america keeps!", ">\n\nSure. Give me the bad 5.", ">\n\nIsrael\nSaudi Arabia\nPakistan\nMyanmar !!!\nHonduras\nUzbekistan/ Kyrgyzstan / Kazakhstan \nI’m leaving out countries who were supported during their worst times, like South Africa, iraq (during the Iran iraq war) and others.", ">\n\nrussia is best choice for how to do nuclear power /s", ">\n\nA losing proposition for Myanmar.", ">\n\nOh boy, tell me this not gonna be another Chernoblyat..." ]

[ "Russia knows all the best people.", ">\n\nThe company Russia keeps….Syria, North Korea, Iran, Myanmar, China.", ">\n\nWait till you hear about the company america keeps!", ">\n\nSure. Give me the bad 5.", ">\n\nIsrael\nSaudi Arabia\nPakistan\nMyanmar !!!\nHonduras\nUzbekistan/ Kyrgyzstan / Kazakhstan \nI’m leaving out countries who were supported during their worst times, like South Africa, iraq (during the Iran iraq war) and others.", ">\n\nrussia is best choice for how to do nuclear power /s", ">\n\nA losing proposition for Myanmar.", ">\n\nOh boy, tell me this not gonna be another Chernoblyat...", ">\n\nA subpact on killing civilians and protesters too." ]

[ "Russia knows all the best people.", ">\n\nThe company Russia keeps….Syria, North Korea, Iran, Myanmar, China.", ">\n\nWait till you hear about the company america keeps!", ">\n\nSure. Give me the bad 5.", ">\n\nIsrael\nSaudi Arabia\nPakistan\nMyanmar !!!\nHonduras\nUzbekistan/ Kyrgyzstan / Kazakhstan \nI’m leaving out countries who were supported during their worst times, like South Africa, iraq (during the Iran iraq war) and others.", ">\n\nrussia is best choice for how to do nuclear power /s", ">\n\nA losing proposition for Myanmar.", ">\n\nOh boy, tell me this not gonna be another Chernoblyat...", ">\n\nA subpact on killing civilians and protesters too.", ">\n\n'Myanmar, Russia sign pact on developing nuclear ~~power~~ terrorism'\nFixed the title" ]

[ "Russia knows all the best people.", ">\n\nThe company Russia keeps….Syria, North Korea, Iran, Myanmar, China.", ">\n\nWait till you hear about the company america keeps!", ">\n\nSure. Give me the bad 5.", ">\n\nIsrael\nSaudi Arabia\nPakistan\nMyanmar !!!\nHonduras\nUzbekistan/ Kyrgyzstan / Kazakhstan \nI’m leaving out countries who were supported during their worst times, like South Africa, iraq (during the Iran iraq war) and others.", ">\n\nrussia is best choice for how to do nuclear power /s", ">\n\nA losing proposition for Myanmar.", ">\n\nOh boy, tell me this not gonna be another Chernoblyat...", ">\n\nA subpact on killing civilians and protesters too.", ">\n\n'Myanmar, Russia sign pact on developing nuclear ~~power~~ terrorism'\nFixed the title", ">\n\nReally doesn't seem like a good plan. Myanmar needs to make sure they don't get a bunch of carbon graphite dampening rods left over from previous Russian reactors.\nOr, considering the way Myanmar's leadership is acting, maybe they should ignore that advice." ]

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[ "I gotta disagree, when people ruin art the convo is just about them ruining the art. People talk about climate change all the time" ]

[ "I gotta disagree, when people ruin art the convo is just about them ruining the art. People talk about climate change all the time", ">\n\n~~People~~ Companies and governments don't do ~~anything~~ nearly enough about it though. These people are protesting inaction, not trying to bring awareness to its existence" ]

[ "I gotta disagree, when people ruin art the convo is just about them ruining the art. People talk about climate change all the time", ">\n\n~~People~~ Companies and governments don't do ~~anything~~ nearly enough about it though. These people are protesting inaction, not trying to bring awareness to its existence", ">\n\nThis is, of course badly off the mark. People, governments and companies all over the world take action all the time to reduce carbon emissions." ]

[ "I gotta disagree, when people ruin art the convo is just about them ruining the art. People talk about climate change all the time", ">\n\n~~People~~ Companies and governments don't do ~~anything~~ nearly enough about it though. These people are protesting inaction, not trying to bring awareness to its existence", ">\n\nThis is, of course badly off the mark. People, governments and companies all over the world take action all the time to reduce carbon emissions.", ">\n\n“Courage is not simply one of the virtues, but the form of every virtue at the testing point.”" ]

[ "I gotta disagree, when people ruin art the convo is just about them ruining the art. People talk about climate change all the time", ">\n\n~~People~~ Companies and governments don't do ~~anything~~ nearly enough about it though. These people are protesting inaction, not trying to bring awareness to its existence", ">\n\nThis is, of course badly off the mark. People, governments and companies all over the world take action all the time to reduce carbon emissions.", ">\n\n“Courage is not simply one of the virtues, but the form of every virtue at the testing point.”", ">\n\nIt probably pushes more people away than it brings to support their cause. They have become the very thing they swore to destroy!" ]

[ "I gotta disagree, when people ruin art the convo is just about them ruining the art. People talk about climate change all the time", ">\n\n~~People~~ Companies and governments don't do ~~anything~~ nearly enough about it though. These people are protesting inaction, not trying to bring awareness to its existence", ">\n\nThis is, of course badly off the mark. People, governments and companies all over the world take action all the time to reduce carbon emissions.", ">\n\n“Courage is not simply one of the virtues, but the form of every virtue at the testing point.”", ">\n\nIt probably pushes more people away than it brings to support their cause. They have become the very thing they swore to destroy!", ">\n\nYeah I agree, that was my main reservation about posting this in the first place. But ultimately I believe that the more conversations we have regarding climate change the better. Maybe I'm naive but ultimately I believe the truth will cut its way through the bullshit and make its way to the surface, hopefully resulting in some sort of action down the line. Maybe in 35 years instead of 40 for example, but that's better than nothing. And worth the destroyed art in my opinion." ]

[ "I gotta disagree, when people ruin art the convo is just about them ruining the art. People talk about climate change all the time", ">\n\n~~People~~ Companies and governments don't do ~~anything~~ nearly enough about it though. These people are protesting inaction, not trying to bring awareness to its existence", ">\n\nThis is, of course badly off the mark. People, governments and companies all over the world take action all the time to reduce carbon emissions.", ">\n\n“Courage is not simply one of the virtues, but the form of every virtue at the testing point.”", ">\n\nIt probably pushes more people away than it brings to support their cause. They have become the very thing they swore to destroy!", ">\n\nYeah I agree, that was my main reservation about posting this in the first place. But ultimately I believe that the more conversations we have regarding climate change the better. Maybe I'm naive but ultimately I believe the truth will cut its way through the bullshit and make its way to the surface, hopefully resulting in some sort of action down the line. Maybe in 35 years instead of 40 for example, but that's better than nothing. And worth the destroyed art in my opinion.", ">\n\nI like the idea of my heritage and history being preserved. \nIf you are fine with that being destroyed, I’m happy to watch your world burn too." ]

[ "I gotta disagree, when people ruin art the convo is just about them ruining the art. People talk about climate change all the time", ">\n\n~~People~~ Companies and governments don't do ~~anything~~ nearly enough about it though. These people are protesting inaction, not trying to bring awareness to its existence", ">\n\nThis is, of course badly off the mark. People, governments and companies all over the world take action all the time to reduce carbon emissions.", ">\n\n“Courage is not simply one of the virtues, but the form of every virtue at the testing point.”", ">\n\nIt probably pushes more people away than it brings to support their cause. They have become the very thing they swore to destroy!", ">\n\nYeah I agree, that was my main reservation about posting this in the first place. But ultimately I believe that the more conversations we have regarding climate change the better. Maybe I'm naive but ultimately I believe the truth will cut its way through the bullshit and make its way to the surface, hopefully resulting in some sort of action down the line. Maybe in 35 years instead of 40 for example, but that's better than nothing. And worth the destroyed art in my opinion.", ">\n\nI like the idea of my heritage and history being preserved. \nIf you are fine with that being destroyed, I’m happy to watch your world burn too.", ">\n\nLooks like it will if enough people think like that.\n*Literally cutting off your nose to spite your face. Except your cutting off your children and grandchildrens' noses to spite your face, so I guess you don't care." ]

[ "I gotta disagree, when people ruin art the convo is just about them ruining the art. People talk about climate change all the time", ">\n\n~~People~~ Companies and governments don't do ~~anything~~ nearly enough about it though. These people are protesting inaction, not trying to bring awareness to its existence", ">\n\nThis is, of course badly off the mark. People, governments and companies all over the world take action all the time to reduce carbon emissions.", ">\n\n“Courage is not simply one of the virtues, but the form of every virtue at the testing point.”", ">\n\nIt probably pushes more people away than it brings to support their cause. They have become the very thing they swore to destroy!", ">\n\nYeah I agree, that was my main reservation about posting this in the first place. But ultimately I believe that the more conversations we have regarding climate change the better. Maybe I'm naive but ultimately I believe the truth will cut its way through the bullshit and make its way to the surface, hopefully resulting in some sort of action down the line. Maybe in 35 years instead of 40 for example, but that's better than nothing. And worth the destroyed art in my opinion.", ">\n\nI like the idea of my heritage and history being preserved. \nIf you are fine with that being destroyed, I’m happy to watch your world burn too.", ">\n\nLooks like it will if enough people think like that.\n*Literally cutting off your nose to spite your face. Except your cutting off your children and grandchildrens' noses to spite your face, so I guess you don't care.", ">\n\nAnd that’s ok by us. \nThat’s the point really, pissing people off is never a viable strategy for positive change. It rarely builds movements that make the world a better place. \nYou can argue the media only covers people like this, but the media also gives PETA more attention then far more rational animal rights groups. \nAnd who actually makes change happen? The stooges who piss people off may get attention, and alienate those who might be reachable, but they aren’t going to make effective change. \nMeanwhile, effective groups attract donations from quieter activists, lobby for real effective change. There are numerous groups that have actually accomplished a lot of good, and those groups are the ones who should be lauded. \nThese people only make the journey harder from the quietly kind people who are making an actual difference." ]

[ "I gotta disagree, when people ruin art the convo is just about them ruining the art. People talk about climate change all the time", ">\n\n~~People~~ Companies and governments don't do ~~anything~~ nearly enough about it though. These people are protesting inaction, not trying to bring awareness to its existence", ">\n\nThis is, of course badly off the mark. People, governments and companies all over the world take action all the time to reduce carbon emissions.", ">\n\n“Courage is not simply one of the virtues, but the form of every virtue at the testing point.”", ">\n\nIt probably pushes more people away than it brings to support their cause. They have become the very thing they swore to destroy!", ">\n\nYeah I agree, that was my main reservation about posting this in the first place. But ultimately I believe that the more conversations we have regarding climate change the better. Maybe I'm naive but ultimately I believe the truth will cut its way through the bullshit and make its way to the surface, hopefully resulting in some sort of action down the line. Maybe in 35 years instead of 40 for example, but that's better than nothing. And worth the destroyed art in my opinion.", ">\n\nI like the idea of my heritage and history being preserved. \nIf you are fine with that being destroyed, I’m happy to watch your world burn too.", ">\n\nLooks like it will if enough people think like that.\n*Literally cutting off your nose to spite your face. Except your cutting off your children and grandchildrens' noses to spite your face, so I guess you don't care.", ">\n\nAnd that’s ok by us. \nThat’s the point really, pissing people off is never a viable strategy for positive change. It rarely builds movements that make the world a better place. \nYou can argue the media only covers people like this, but the media also gives PETA more attention then far more rational animal rights groups. \nAnd who actually makes change happen? The stooges who piss people off may get attention, and alienate those who might be reachable, but they aren’t going to make effective change. \nMeanwhile, effective groups attract donations from quieter activists, lobby for real effective change. There are numerous groups that have actually accomplished a lot of good, and those groups are the ones who should be lauded. \nThese people only make the journey harder from the quietly kind people who are making an actual difference.", ">\n\nDestroy millions of dollars of irreplaceable art for 5 minutes of publicity? I say throw them in jail, or better yet just leave them glued to the wall or floor they attached themselves to (Edit: for less than a day, I'm not totally heartless.)" ]

[ "I gotta disagree, when people ruin art the convo is just about them ruining the art. People talk about climate change all the time", ">\n\n~~People~~ Companies and governments don't do ~~anything~~ nearly enough about it though. These people are protesting inaction, not trying to bring awareness to its existence", ">\n\nThis is, of course badly off the mark. People, governments and companies all over the world take action all the time to reduce carbon emissions.", ">\n\n“Courage is not simply one of the virtues, but the form of every virtue at the testing point.”", ">\n\nIt probably pushes more people away than it brings to support their cause. They have become the very thing they swore to destroy!", ">\n\nYeah I agree, that was my main reservation about posting this in the first place. But ultimately I believe that the more conversations we have regarding climate change the better. Maybe I'm naive but ultimately I believe the truth will cut its way through the bullshit and make its way to the surface, hopefully resulting in some sort of action down the line. Maybe in 35 years instead of 40 for example, but that's better than nothing. And worth the destroyed art in my opinion.", ">\n\nI like the idea of my heritage and history being preserved. \nIf you are fine with that being destroyed, I’m happy to watch your world burn too.", ">\n\nLooks like it will if enough people think like that.\n*Literally cutting off your nose to spite your face. Except your cutting off your children and grandchildrens' noses to spite your face, so I guess you don't care.", ">\n\nAnd that’s ok by us. \nThat’s the point really, pissing people off is never a viable strategy for positive change. It rarely builds movements that make the world a better place. \nYou can argue the media only covers people like this, but the media also gives PETA more attention then far more rational animal rights groups. \nAnd who actually makes change happen? The stooges who piss people off may get attention, and alienate those who might be reachable, but they aren’t going to make effective change. \nMeanwhile, effective groups attract donations from quieter activists, lobby for real effective change. There are numerous groups that have actually accomplished a lot of good, and those groups are the ones who should be lauded. \nThese people only make the journey harder from the quietly kind people who are making an actual difference.", ">\n\nDestroy millions of dollars of irreplaceable art for 5 minutes of publicity? I say throw them in jail, or better yet just leave them glued to the wall or floor they attached themselves to (Edit: for less than a day, I'm not totally heartless.)", ">\n\nI would add more glue. They wanted to glue themselves? I'd help by adding industrial glue perhaps." ]